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NBC apologizes for cutting "under God" from Pledge of Allegiance before U.S. Open

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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:19 AM
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Would you feel the same way as you do if the supposed censored phrase was "One Nation Under Allah". Of course you would right? Since whether it's correct or not, you are against censorship and for personal freedom right? Where is my personal freedom when I am sick of being brainwashed and forced into saying God? If you are against censorship so much why stop there, why not complain about not being able to say #, #, mother #er, #in faggot asshole, etc...




posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:21 AM
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I wonder how you folks would feel if a network censored something you believed in.

I guess the 1st Ammendment only applies to situations where you agree. If you don't agree then censorship is fine.

Okay. Got it. Just wanted to make sure we were on the same page.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by blackrain17
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Would you feel the same way as you do if the supposed censored phrase was "One Nation Under Allah". Of course you would right? Since whether it's correct or not, you are against censorship and for personal freedom right? Where is my personal freedom when I am sick of being brainwashed and forced into saying God? If you are against censorship so much why stop there, why not complain about not being able to say #, #, mother #er, #in faggot asshole, etc...


Freedom, true freedom is defending something you DON'T agree with.
Benevolent Heretic said that.
She is right.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:25 AM
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The first amendment applies only to government censorship. What part of that don't you understand. Freedom doesn't apply only if beezer agrees. No ones rights were violated. I thought the tea party stood for freedom?



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by NoArmsJames
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They did no such thing. The video is on page one; go watch it.


When the story first broke, it was said both were omitted. I watched the video on the Washingtonpost link and they did indeed omit "Indivisble." but it does play "One Nation".



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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There's always been censorship whether you realize it or not. Why can't we say #, #, #, #, #, #, or #, on TV or even on this site?



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
Freedom, true freedom is defending something you DON'T agree with.


Then why aren't you defending NBCs decision that you obviously don't agree with?



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by NoArmsJames
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The first amendment applies only to government censorship. What part of that don't you understand. Freedom doesn't apply only if beezer agrees. No ones rights were violated. I thought the tea party stood for freedom?


The freedom to censor.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

To see the fine folks side-step censorship issues when they don't agree with the topic is funny. And pathetic.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by NoArmsJames

Originally posted by beezzer
Freedom, true freedom is defending something you DON'T agree with.


Then why aren't you defending NBCs decision that you obviously don't agree with?


I defend NBC to say whatever they want. What I don't agree with, is them determining what I can or cannot hear/watch.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:33 AM
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Then your first mission should be censorship on ATS. You know there is censorship here right?



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by blackrain17
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There's always been censorship whether you realize it or not. Why can't we say #, #, #, #, #, #, or #, on TV or even on this site?


Just to make things clear. You are for an entity censoring, determining what you can or cannot watch/listen to.

I am bookmarking this thread. Really. And will bring it around the next time any of you scream about rights, freedoms, censorship.

This is fun.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by blackrain17
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Then your first mission should be censorship on ATS. You know there is censorship here right?


Let's see.
God.
Satan.
Liberty.
Communism.
Socialism.
Hate.
Peace.

Nope. I can say those things. Now, if a mod or anyone on ATS distorts, snips, blurs what I want to say, then it would be censorship. If THEY EDIT MY POST then it would be censorship.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:37 AM
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First of all, MSM has been censoring for the longest time. Why does this specific issue bother you so much? Is it because you are Christian? If not, don't take this censorship so personally. It's only NBC...



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:37 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer

The freedom to censor.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

To see the fine folks side-step censorship issues when they don't agree with the topic is funny. And pathetic.


I've side-stepped nothing. A private entity is free to censor as they please. The constitution, which as a tea partyer you supposedly cherish, gives every private citizen and entity, including you (if you weren't "in exile") that right. You can "BWAHAHAHA" me all you want, but it seems I have a much firmer grasp of what freedom means than you do.
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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:37 AM
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Some of the founders saw a golden mean in regards to expression. Many of the founders supported the Sedition Act. Jefferson might agree with you though. He would probably have issues though with the amount of wealth and power wielded by NBC (Comcast/General Electric).



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by blackrain17
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Then your first mission should be censorship on ATS. You know there is censorship here right?


Let's see.
God.
Satan.
Liberty.
Communism.
Socialism.
Hate.
Peace.

Nope. I can say those things. Now, if a mod or anyone on ATS distorts, snips, blurs what I want to say, then it would be censorship. If THEY EDIT MY POST then it would be censorship.


Why don't you type, #, #, #in, mother #er... I consider this censorship according to your definition.
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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by blackrain17
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First of all, MSM has been censoring for the longest time. Why does this specific issue bother you so much? Is it because you are Christian? If not, don't take this censorship so personally. It's only NBC...


Because this is the first time the folks at ATS have been FOR the censorship.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
I defend NBC to say whatever they want. What I don't agree with, is them determining what I can or cannot hear/watch.


Well than no you don't defend their right to say whatever they want.
Your second sentence completely contradicts your first.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:42 AM
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I can use other words to convey my point. ATS does not censor the ISSUE or specific point that people try to make. If they did? I'd go somewhere else.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by beezzer
I wonder how you folks would feel if a network censored something you believed in.

I guess the 1st Ammendment only applies to situations where you agree.


Well that's a generalization, you'd have prove that I reacted differently to a similar situation. But yes, generalization if it justifies your bias over the matter. As for how I'd feel if networks censor things I believe in, there are numerous examples of this happening. It happens on Fox news, happens on various TV stations, happens in a number of shows. While it offends me, I recognize it's their right.



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