Groundbreaking US Supreme Court Decision on the Tenth and Ninth Amendment, page 2


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reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 01:26 PM by Lono1
reply to post by Habit4ming



I hope so, but as I said in another post:


The closer we get to the finish line, the harder the journey will become. It is always darkest before the dawn. Paradoxically, those who have lived their lives desiring to only be of service to others still encounter resistance to the accomplishment of that goal by the self centered.

There will always be those who step over dollars to save dimes. There will always be those screaming ME, ME, ME that physically stand in the way of actually achieving what they are screaming for...

Everything is circular. That is the secret. Good/bad, Right/wrong, love/hate...


But it does at least appear that we are making some headway, though that may be the greatest deception of all.

"There are none so hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe themselves to be free"


reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 01:43 PM by poet1b
reply to post by TupacShakur



I 'll bet the Roberts didn't think about that one. Now people can sue the fed for busting medical mj businesses who are following state laws.

I'll bet there are going to be a whole lot of these cases filed soon.



reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 05:00 PM by Scytherius
reply to post by Lono1



Not really that groundbreaking (said the lawyer). It's a criminal matter which has higher scrutiny. It did nothing about the requirement of a "particular injury" and left that intact. It was a very narrow ruling of permitting a 10th Amendment argument where the other elements of "standing" are present.

It is not some wild open door to challenging the Government on health care or taxes. There is not suddenly going to be permitted some new raft of lawsuits.

I read the opinion and it is a narrow ruling.. Don't be fooled into thinking you've suddenly obtained more power as a citizen. And for those of you that think SCOTUS and it's Conservative majority is EVER going to balkanize the U.S. and give the states power over the Feds ... get a clue. They will never give up control over you. Stop playing the useful idiot and stop arguing about issues that mean nothing.


reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 05:39 PM by joshter
reply to post by Scytherius



So what you're trying to say is that this does NOT set a precedent and any attempt to try to change the status quo won't be any good? You seem to be either a pessimist or a defeatist with that sort of attitude. At the very least, this is a step in the right direction. Baby steps my friend.
edit on 20-6-2011 by joshter because: forgot to put the words "change the" between "to" & "status"
edit on 20-6-2011 by joshter because: forgot to edit what I originally meant to edit.



reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 08:57 PM by MarksThoughts
reply to post by existenz


So, explain to me why so many British actors and actresses have such 'great' teeth?
Your own Margaret Thacher said, forgive me if this is not exact, "Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money." That is exactly the point.
People have come to the conclusion that everyone, regardless of means, should have full healthcare - and not pay for it on their own. Why is it just healthcare? I need a good diet also, don't I? I need a place to live, don't I? Why do I have to put up my own hard-earned cash to pay for those? Why don't I have government insurance to cover those expenses?
Think for a moment. The reason something costs more is because it is scarce. It is also true that we each have different concepts of what acceptable meals and housing means. It makes no sense that a government, a panel of 'medical experts', or any arbitrary group should decide what is good medical care for me or my family. This is just the same as my choosing what to eat, what to feed my family, and where to live.
What about a government mandated 'right' to a car or truck to get to and from the office?


reply posted on 21-6-2011 @ 12:34 PM by existenz
reply to post by MarksThoughts



Are you religious sir? If so you must be aware of "do unto others"?

There are certain circumstances where I agree with you.

The healthcare issue I cannot. We also have the option of private healthcare. We don't have to go NHS. The fact that there is a national healthcare service is a godsend for those that genuinely deserve it. There are those however that abuse the system. It's the same everywhere though.

On the 'great' teeth comment. Sarcastic I presume? There seems to be a stigma attached that if you're British you've got bad teeth or are gay. Well I don't have bad teeth and am certainly not gay.

Dental care in this country can be prohibitively expensive and you get very little help from the NHS.

Many happy returns.

eX.


reply posted on 24-6-2011 @ 10:28 PM by Lono1
reply to post by joshter



This absolutely sets a precedent. Now, If it will be allowed to be referenced in the future, and not negated by a justice deciding on the spot that it has no bearing or merit on a future case, remains to be seen.
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