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Stewart hits the nail on the head AGAIN, compares Fox News to ‘ideological regimes’

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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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reply to post by LadySkadi
 


Too right unfortunately.





posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
i could go on anyone can do links.
All your links are about the same telephone survey. Should I have listed the hundreds of news articles about the two studies and surveys I posted?

You are obviously not a serious person.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
give me a break

attack and marginalize 1 news station

when abc,cbc,,msnbc,cnn are ideolical regimes that outnumber fox and that speaks volumes when people think stewart is a reliable "news source" when time and time agian he claims hes just a "comedian".

i find it hilarious at all the hatred for fox news and everyone turns a blind eye to the pro left and pro obama "news stations"

it is my opinion that fox news haters are the most consistent misformed ideological group out there.

guess people dont beleive in exercising freedom of speech

people have the freedom to pick and choose what they want to watch or listen to.

if you hate fox dont watch them and stop crying like little babies
edit on 19-6-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


CNN? really?...it's gotten to the point on CNN as it pertains to constantly showing the GOP presidential race, that when it comes on i switch channels...i don't see 1/100th the coverage for the nuclear meltdown in japan, or close to what's happening in the middle east, as i have seen the constant showing throughout the day of the republicans choices for president..... and the election is STILL 15 MONTHS AWAY!!....there is plenty of other news out there.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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So a guy (Stewart) whose paycheck is signed by one disreputable media company (Viacom) is bashing another equally disreputable media company (News Corp). This script is getting old and needs to be revised before more people start catching on to these corporate shenanigans.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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yep this is why i dont bother with links too many cherry pick what ones matter.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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While I can see Stewart, I can and will never see another Carlin, sorry. Hollywood is Hollywood.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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newsbusters.org...

read it the transcript from wallace.

WALLACE: Over the years, you have called us -- and we're going to put this on the screen because this is heavy stuff.

STEWART: Please.

WALLACE: "A biased organization, relentlessly promoting an ideological agenda under the rubric of being a news organization."

STEWART: Rubric.

WALLACE: Well, here's the deal. Are you willing to say the same thing about the mainstream media, about ABC, CBS, NBC, "Washington Post," "New York Times"?

STEWART: No.


read the rest

Read more: newsbusters.org...






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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Stewart says, “My comedy is informed by an ideological background.”, yet he claims this belief system is not his “primary motivating force” in his role on the Daily Show. Entertainment is, presumably, yet he compares the production techniques of a pharmaceutical commercial to a political advertisement to demonstrate how the distinction between politics and commerce have blurred in the medium of television. It is humorous, but also a powerful statement about the constructedness of political acts in the media, and has the effect (side-effect, Stewart might argue) of diminishing a conservative political figure (associating Sarah Palin with herpes and/or salesperson for a hopeless product), but that’s not the “motivating force”. Stewart denies Chris Wallace’s accusation of playing politics, and instead accuses Wallace of being part of an “ideological regime” where “they receive marching orders” (don’t think for themselves), and can’t believe that the Daily Show has no political agenda, but John Stewart is a prominent media figure, and by virtue of the very media he works in (as he so aptly demonstrates with the herpes/Palin analysis), he is engaged in the political dialogue just as Chris Wallace is, despite the claims that what he is doing is “comedy”. And ideologically speaking, one's ideology is one's primary driving force, whether one admits it (or are conscious of it) or not. Stewart can’t call Wallace a mindless ideologist without being one himself. And if you want to talk in terms of the state apparatus for ideological reproduction, television and other media are a major component. Of course the Daily Show, et. al. are engaged in politics! John Stewart is also engaged in making a lot of money (as most politicians are), and he doesn’t care about being “reliable” or “having the sheeple wake up”. He’s not even awake himself.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by aptness

Originally posted by neo96
i could go on anyone can do links.
All your links are about the same telephone survey. Should I have listed the hundreds of news articles about the two studies and surveys I posted?

You are obviously not a serious person.


You're feeding a troll. Some people are liberals posing as conservatives that are overly-ignorant about any subject matter presented in any thread. This causes the conservative point of view to seem foolish and it's actually a far better tactic than actual honesty when used to sway opinions. I've seen all kinds of unusual behavior on ATS.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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Here is a link to the full unedited interview.
I would say Fox is quite fair and balanced to alow Stewart to come
on their show and then trash fox news.

And always remember Controversy Creates Cash!


www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
give me a break

attack and marginalize 1 news station

when abc,cbc,,msnbc,cnn are ideolical regimes that outnumber fox and that speaks volumes when people think stewart is a reliable "news source" when time and time agian he claims hes just a "comedian".



You don't watch The Daily Show very often, do you?

Stewart regularly assaults all of the media venues you listed.

He goes after Fox more often because they really are that dumb. They make Stewart's job (picking out hilarious things newscasters and commentators do) that much easier. Stewart went hardball on CNN's crossfire in much the same way he attacked Fox. He calls everyone on their bull#, it's sort of his unwritten job title.

The reason he specifically stated Fox is an ideological station is because it is one, to a much higher extent than any of the other stations. If you're going to sit there and say with a straight face that Fox is just as balanced in opinion as CNN or MSNBC is, then you're only lying to yourself.

Yes, MSNBC has a liberal slant, and CNN is sometimes accused of having a liberal slant (although these days I wouldn't even agree with that). However, neither station so actively promotes an agenda as Fox does. The worst part about it all is that Fox has the gall to call themselves 'fair and balanced', which is probably the root of all the angst towards them.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
give me a break

attack and marginalize 1 news station

when abc,cbc,,msnbc,cnn are ideolical regimes that outnumber fox and that speaks volumes when people think stewart is a reliable "news source" when time and time agian he claims hes just a "comedian".

i find it hilarious at all the hatred for fox news and everyone turns a blind eye to the pro left and pro obama "news stations"

it is my opinion that fox news haters are the most consistent misformed ideological group out there.

guess people dont beleive in exercising freedom of speech



IF you knew anything about the subject, you wouldn know that Stewart spends equal time skewering the so called leftist stations you list.

you are merely presenting to oft-repeated deflection offered in defense of FOXs more extreme meanderings: buh buh buh msnbc does it too!

As if any critique of FOXs shoddy track record is somehow a defense of Rachel Maddow.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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Now THIS is what I call an articulate counterpoint. Well said sir, though I may disagree you have a coherent and sensible argument. The same cannot be said for another, seemingly semi-literate poster in this thread.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 01:03 AM
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I find it so bizarre how many people are blind to Fox.... especially people who visit this site... you would think they would be enlightened enough to spot blatant propaganda and misinformation...

I think it's a popular thing right now to say all MSM are equally bad... but a critical eye will see Fox has surpassed all other TV news outlets in the field of intentional misinformation... and often used to stoke the fires of fear, hate and aggression.

It feels good to watch Jon Stewart call them out on it.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by spiritualzombie
I find it so bizarre how many people are blind to Fox.... especially people who visit this site... you would think they would be enlightened enough to spot blatant propaganda and misinformation...

I think it's a popular thing right now to say all MSM are equally bad... but a critical eye will see Fox has surpassed all other TV news outlets in the field of intentional misinformation... and often used to stoke the fires of fear, hate and aggression.

It feels good to watch Jon Stewart call them out on it.


All partisans are equally bad, because all of them have turned off independent thought.

If you think Fox news is worse enough to rant over while not ranting about the entirety of cable news, you're just a partisan yourself, and thus you aren't qualified to make the judgment.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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In the source cited below, the Washington Monthly, you will find a collection of actual quantifiable data that supports the claim that Fox viewers are typically the most misinformed on current issues when compared to other main-stream media outlets.

Source

I have held the opinion that Fox News is the most biased, untrustworthy msm network for years, and I reached this conclusion in the following way: My family would always debate current politics, and one of my uncles would, most of the time, be spewing off "facts" that were anything but true. The most memorable being, when Bush was in office, related to the WMD's and Saddam Hussein's regime.

I finally found out that the ONLY news he watches is Fox. That is when I started watching the network, and while sometimes it was okay, there would always seem to be something that conflicted with other news sources. It was strange, and I think it was the way they almost attempt to brainwash their viewers or something, as much of their presentation I found quite disagreeable. So my opinion is based on experience.

My experiences, combined with the data presented in my link, as well as other data that has and has not been cited in this thread, I can say with relative certainty that Fox is one of the worst, probably THE worst, msm outlets one should watch if they wish to stay informed.

Anyone can disagree with that as much as they want, but there is not, and will most likely never be, enough data to refute the claims of Fox's inaccuracies. When there are multiple polls conducted amongst msm viewers, and the results show Fox in the upper echelon of informed viewers, then one may be able to refute these claims, but definitely not at present. There is also the possibility that Fox has the most "low iq" viewers, who do not retain information well, as that also could account for the results of the data. The implications of which, however, are entirely different, and probably should not be discussed in-depth at this time.

I also do not like the way media is presented in such a biased manner. I thought the media were supposed to present both sides, while not taking a side themselves. That isn't just Fox though, as I have seen that elsewhere.


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edit on 6/20/11 by JiggyPotamus because: Momentary failure of grammatical skill caused an undesired preposition at the end of a sentence.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by Observer99

Originally posted by spiritualzombie
I find it so bizarre how many people are blind to Fox.... especially people who visit this site... you would think they would be enlightened enough to spot blatant propaganda and misinformation...

I think it's a popular thing right now to say all MSM are equally bad... but a critical eye will see Fox has surpassed all other TV news outlets in the field of intentional misinformation... and often used to stoke the fires of fear, hate and aggression.

It feels good to watch Jon Stewart call them out on it.


All partisans are equally bad, because all of them have turned off independent thought.

If you think Fox news is worse enough to rant over while not ranting about the entirety of cable news, you're just a partisan yourself, and thus you aren't qualified to make the judgment.


I disagree. I think one can identify and discuss partisan bias of other MSM outlets while still acknowledging the over-the-top misinformation, and fear-based extreme Neocon activist agenda of FOX News.

To try to group them all as the same is an attempt to minimize the truth of FOX's damage and intentional misinformation campaign. Their full-on support for torture, invasions, xenophobia, and hatred toward outsiders... puts them in a much more blood-soaked and hate-filled league of their own.

It wouldn't surprise me if once upon a time German citizens might argue that Nazi propaganda was no worse than other political propaganda.



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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
I have held the opinion that Fox News is the most biased, untrustworthy msm network for years, and I reached this conclusion in the following way: My family would always debate current politics, and one of my uncles would, most of the time, be spewing off "facts" that were anything but true. The most memorable being, when Bush was in office, related to the WMD's and Saddam Hussein's regime.

I finally found out that the ONLY news he watches is Fox.


He didn't watch Fox because he was brainwashed, he watched Fox because they're the only (pseudo) conservative news channel on TV. MSNBC is openly liberal, CNN and the "big 3" networks are liberal but pretend they aren't. It could be just a natural extension of the culture in news, pervasive groupthink translated to partisan bias in the reporting. More likely it's planned. True conservative ideals (which are not reflected by Republicans, or anywhere in our elected officials or on Fox news) are something TPTB are afraid of. Therefore, they only give the conservatives one TV station, plant a bunch of fake conservatives on it and keep them in their back pockets, and have them parrot the Republican talking points. Keep the prevailing socialist globalist mindset on most of the news networks. If a Republican wants to win, he has to be one of the sellouts, someone with lots of money and influence, and corrupt like Bush. If Fox news had anything to do with true conservatism, they would be a 24 hour Ron Paul channel. Do they even talk about Ron Paul in any kind of positive fashion? I wouldn't know since I haven't watched cable news THIS YEAR.

As for me, I'm not a partisan nor a conservative. I just agree with them more of the time, because they are correct more of the time. The problem with that is, it's sort of like a stopped watch vs. a terribly slow watch. Even if the stopped watch is correct more often, that doesn't mean either watch actually knows what time it is.
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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 03:47 AM
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I can't for the life of me understand how someone can say they get their news from Jon Stewart. I hear that sometimes from people and die a little inside.



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 03:47 AM
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Wow,the liberal media,and the Socialist Democrats are really desperate and worried about a news channel that is different than what they are indoctrinating the masses to believe.

This was a country of differing opinions at one point in time.

The progressive liberals control all of the media outlets except a few.

So how is a intelligent person suppose to receive a understanding of a point of view?

The liberals call the conservative base and their pundits,names and attack their children even.

Has anyone EVER heard a conservative,call a liberal a nasty name or attack their family?

Stewart is not funny.

The Nazi's in Germany did the same thing.

They attacked while they entertain and indoctrinated the masses,making the masses believe their way was best.

How did that turn out?

Stewart knows who writes his paycheck.

Why even listen to him?

The liberal progressives and their "mouthpieces" are so ignorant,that the more they attack Fox news,the more people turn to that channel to see for themselves.

Let us see what happens in a year or so.



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