Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by EthanT
Playing Devil's Advocate....
What we call consciousness is reliant on our physical status [to be able to operate and interact in the physical world]. Our bodies require nutrients,
carbs, proteins and all the rest to function at a level that allows our lungs to provide the air that pumps the heart that keeps the brain going.
Brain damage alters our consciousness [ability to operate and interact in the physical world] and so do the imbalances that generate clinical
depression. Experiments have taken place whereby lobotomised patients have had needles inserted into their brains. The results have caused laughing,
embarrassment and tears. Split-brain patients (the corpus collossum being severed) have been exposed to picture cards that generate blushing on one
side of the face and nothing on the other.
Note the rephrasing I added to your text above inserted in between the 's. Here's why ....
Some studies have also shown that consciousness can in turn have an effect back onto the physical brain (and body) just as physical changes in the
brain can have an effect on consciousness. It's a two way street.
So, basically, it seems like humanity often splits into polar, or opposite, camps on issues like these.
As an example, when Dark Matter first came around, one camp was for MACHOS (MAssively Compact Halo ObjectS) and the other camp was for WIMPS (Weakly
Interating Massive ParticleS). Republicans vs Democrats, Evolution Materialism vs Creationism, etc, etc.
And, one side often times has a hard time seeing any truth in the other side, when in reality the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle
Seems like this has happened with consciousness too. One side says it's all brain, and another side says it's all "mind/spirit"
I think the consiousness that we see everyday in the world exhibited by humans is an amalgamation of both brain AND mind. It's the middle ground
between those two camps. Consciousness needs the brain to function in the physical world. (The brain provides the signals from the 5 senses, and so
When you die, I believe consciousness survives, but it will be different than what you are experiencing now. The brain is an instrument that focuses
your consciousness into the subjective experience of an individual that we all have and this is relayed and referenced via the signals sent to you by
the five senses.
When you die, the referneces creating the subjective experience we all have, courtesy of the brain, is gone. Things will be different, but
consciousness will go on.
As the Swiss philosopher Amiel said:
“Nothing is more hidden from us than the illusion which lives with us day by day, and our greatest illusion is to believe that we are what we think
ourselves to be.”
edit on 19-6-2011 by EthanT because: (no reason given)