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AARP, the powerful lobby for older Americans, was hammered Friday by fellow activists for refusing to oppose any and all cuts to Social Security benefits, a position the group says it has long held as a way to extend the life of the massive retirement and disability program.
The group, which has 37 million Americans as members, adamantly opposes cutting Social Security benefits to help reduce the federal budget deficit, said David Certner, the organization’s director of legislative policy. But for years AARP has acknowledged that cuts to future benefits may be necessary to improve the program’s finances, he said.
“Our policy for decades has always been that we basically support a package that would include revenue enhancements and benefit adjustments to get Social Security to long-term solvency,” Certner said. “That has been our policy stated over and over again for, I mean, literally it has to be two decades, now.”
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
I think this issue is really about priorities. Yes, we need to stop all the wars, corporate and foreign aid, and wasteful spending in general.....but I think we have a moral obligation to take care of those in need, including the elderly.
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Sometimes a rude wake up call is the only way to get someone's attention.
Originally posted by LargeFries
reply to post by sonofliberty1776
"I honestly don't understand how seniors can look themselves in the mirror knowing what they are doing to their grand and greatgrand children."
I give you credit for writing something that has the impact of a slap upside the head, one does not encounter that very often.
Sorry, but SS does not work that way. SS is a ponzi scheme. What you pay now supports someone else. Like most ponzi schemes, we have a problem now because we have too few new payers into the system. This is why all ponzi schemes are illegal and considered fraud. Yet, because it is government run, SS is a ponzi that is supposed to work. I am sorry, but like kings of old trying to control incoming tides, certain things cannot be controlled by humans. Ponzi schemes ALWAYS fail.
Idiot that I am, I think those who contribute should reap what the sowed. Pay in, pay out. Perhaps that would balance the scales a little.
That is an entirely different thread.
Since I was a teen (whew! a long time ago) I've heard about SS money being given to immigrants that never donated a dollar. My eldest sisters first husband, their family came from Yugoslavia many years ago. The grandfather was here a short time and his friends had guided him through the system. He collected $$$ from SS until he passed away. Never contributed a cent.
Agreed, but yet another different thread. My whole problem with this system is that it is government run. The government should not be involved in anything like this, it is beyond the scope of their responsibilities imo.
Mismanagement of this country and its programs courtesy of the Washington DC Clown Car Brigade is the problem. As usual.
Again, yet another entire thread. I blame the disintegration of the family. Family, church and community should be handling this issue imo, not government.
As far as grand-children, who's kidding who? Retirement is a fleeting thing of the past. Most wageslaves are going to have to work to the day they are either dead or simply unable, and may God help them if that should happen.
Yet another entire thread. I will not disagree with you though.
The quicker the politicians in DC have their heads severed and mounted atop tall poles the quicker we can try to mend what little is left of America.
LOL. I HATE insurance, especially automobile insurance which is just licensed extortion imo. HOWEVER, with insurance I can opt out(except the gott verdamt car insurance). I can choose my own path. SS gives me no such option.
Originally posted by David9176
It's great to see the new generation, those who know nothing before Reagan, take the helm.
Everything is a God D ponzie scheme.
INSURANCE IS A PONZIE SCHEME. Where is your endless attack on insurance?
What does that have to do with this? Not saying it is not an issue, but I do not see what it has to do with the topic at hand?
I can't believe that many of you HAVE THE NERVE to state this kind of garbage each day when the wealthiest of this country is hoarding all the money.
Agreed. So what are YOU doing about it?
They don't want to pay any of the deficits, they just want average americans to foot the bill for THEIR MISTAKES.
Agreed. So what are YOU doing about it?
Some of you need to start questioning your line of thinking.
The wealthy will end up not paying for our wars...WE WILL. The wealthy will end up not paying for their tax breaks...but WE WILL.
I overlooked this post the first time around, sorry about that.
Originally posted by ItsEvolutionBaby
You're kidding, right?
Obviously haven't lived yet to see your senior years.
Its now okay to steal from our seniors?
Did you read my opening post? I already agreed that that needs to be cut and done away with. I completely oppose all those bailouts and corporate welfare among many other things.
We can give billions to corporations who seem to squander it and lavish their execs, but we'll cut funding to senior citizens ?
That is your option, are you sending Uncle Sam that money by check or money order? I oppose entitlement programs as they are beyond the purview of the federal governments powers which are enumerated in the Constitution. I also oppose socialism in general, and I know that you think my belief in personal freedom/responsibility makes me an evil person. If you want to give your money, do it. Just don't "volunteer me" to hand over my money to a corrupt government for socialistic redistribution.
Originally posted by whaaa
I would gladly pay more taxes to take care of this nations elderly. Instead of enriching the war machine and the contractors in blood that profit from death.
Attacking the elderly and their efforts, and contributions to this country is treason and should be treated as such.
I have a better plan. How about they provide their own insurance(not taxpayer funded), and they get paid the average wage for their state(senators) or their districts(representatives). This will help them empathize with their constituents and understand the issues that concern them. It would make them better representatives of the "people".
Why don't we just vote to take away Congresses Heath Care Plan, Raise their Retirement Age to 70, and seize their pension plan until they are Hmmm lets say 75. How about those apples. Oh Yeah, no Dental plan, Eyecare, Depends,or Viagra either. Don't even think about the 400.00 haircuts or condoms expenses either.