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the hole in the pentagon..is the big hole in the 911 story

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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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It takes time
alot of it, then, one day, its in the consciousness of those who didn't have time in the first place.

I remember back in the days 06 or it was 2005 that my argument about the flight pattern being too complex and all was oftenly disregard, then one day, a bunch of experience and respected pilots decided to grow balls.




posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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So who pays the price here? The relatives of those killed.

Aaahhh...yes...the old do not investigate 911 because the relatives are hurting card. What a bunch of 911 OS apologist trash!



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Okay, SkepticOrWhatever definitely isn't a disinformant. He's just a douche stoner...


Found a pic of him posing with a pornstar...
forum.grasscity.com...



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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If what you say is true, then that would be funny and sad.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by SphinxMontreal


So who pays the price here? The relatives of those killed.

Aaahhh...yes...the old do not investigate 911 because the relatives are hurting card. What a bunch of 911 OS apologist trash!


What part of you-have-no-evidence don't you understand? If you have no evidence - why do you keep beating a dead horse?



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by userid1

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal


So who pays the price here? The relatives of those killed.

Aaahhh...yes...the old do not investigate 911 because the relatives are hurting card. What a bunch of 911 OS apologist trash!


What part of you-have-no-evidence don't you understand? If you have no evidence - why do you keep beating a dead horse?


What part of "The governments story about what happened has many many HOLES" dont you understand?
Not one truther here claims to know what happened. Not one.
We/They have questions. Some of us/them have theories. Some or our/their theories directly contradict each other.
IT DOESNT MATTER. We know what we are being told is a lie.

All you 'Trusters' do is believe a story that is FULL of holes and defend it.
Its insane.

I read this a while ago and it fits you trusters so perfectly.

Friend of deceased: "Did you find out how he died?"
Police captain: "Yes. He killed himself. He was shot three times in the back of the head. We found a suicide note."



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by userid1

Originally posted by SphinxMontreal


So who pays the price here? The relatives of those killed.

Aaahhh...yes...the old do not investigate 911 because the relatives are hurting card. What a bunch of 911 OS apologist trash!


What part of you-have-no-evidence don't you understand? If you have no evidence - why do you keep beating a dead horse?


Evidence? Our government likes to get rid of them or if they don't have any, they just say they got rid of it. Perfect example, Osama's body. Where is the evidence? How convenient. Don't you think?

Also, not everyone that thinks 911 was an inside job is a Truther...
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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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S & F

Wow!

This is like.....SO obvious. Jet fuel supposedly being able to melt titanium steel, building 7 collasping without a plane hit....the Pentagon 'incident' brings it all home.

WOW!!



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:53 PM
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It is my firm opinion that the hole at the Pentagon was NOT made by an airplane of any kind.

If there was a plane, it would have been caught by footage of the many security cameras along the approach to the Pentagon. There also would have been an attempt to shoot it down using the air defences in the area.

HOWEVER, that being said, I also don't believe that this hole was caused by a missile either. This area of the Pentagon was supposed to be under construction at the time, even a small amount of explosives causes massive damage to buildings, much more than what is seen here. If this was a missile, large portions of the entire wing would have collapsed or been blown apart, especially a missile from supposedly the most technologically advanced military in the world.

No missile, No plane. The real mystery here is what could cause a hole of such a type?



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever




The plane hit an area under reconstruction of the Pentagon so there would be no people. There are countless pictures of the bodies from flight 77 and countless websites confirming the linkage of DNA. Quit denying the facts. And there are no such things as disinformation agents, this isn't the matrix, this isn't a movie, it's real life.

And why are you lying by implying the plane didn't knock over any light poles? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED! I think all of you conspiracy people are crazy as hell, no wonder everyone on TV calls truthers nut jobs lol
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edit on 19/6/11 by argentus because: (no reason given)


Did you really say there are no such things as disinformation agents? Wow. Sorry S and B but the world is not made of puppy dogs and ice cream cones. We are bombarded with disinfo everyday. How could you not have the cranial capacity to know such common knowledge?



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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To all the people who believe the official story I ask you, why have the government still not shown us the confiscated video tapes from the neighboring buildings (gas station, hotel, etc.) that had a perfect view of the section the Pentagon was struck??? If the government wants to shut us truthers up, then go ahead and show us the video tapes from those buildings....



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:58 PM
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Theres a bit of info on why people thinks a missile was used.

here.
freedomisforeverybody.blogspot.com...
911research.wtc7.net...
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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:58 PM
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I asked this question before, some idiot will post some random video of the sky or the parking lot. Of course, the Feds are gonna return those useless surveillance tapes. There were over 80 surveillance videos, why not show every single one? Oops, there might be some "real" evidence that will show what really happened...



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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Look here's the bottom line. We have seen the planes hit the Towers countless times and how many times have we seen the Pentagon CLEARLY get hit by a 757? ZERO.

How can anyone be so naive as to think a plane hit the Pentagon? I have no idea what hit the Pentagon, but I know for damn sure it wasn't a 757, because if it was, it would have been plastered all over the news. And yes there were about 80 cameras that got that shot and not one released? Until they show us unedited video of the incident, we must remain skeptical of the government's story.

Well done OP.

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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 11:05 PM
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Fine - then be specific.

Start with the question -do you have any proof/evidence that it wasn't a plane that hit the building? Or is that not where the "holes" are?

How about the hijacker wasn't a good enough pilot to *crash* a plane - is that where the "holes" are?

How about the body identification - "holes" there?

Maybe the "holes" are in who was killed on the ground?

Cite the "holes" and let's move on from that point.

I have no problem with people asking questions - but when an answer is provided with evidence, it's difficult to remain patient when those answers are so dismissively tossed away, particularly when there's absolutely no proof to contradict them.



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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by jhn7537
To all the people who believe the official story I ask you, why have the government still not shown us the confiscated video tapes from the neighboring buildings (gas station, hotel, etc.) that had a perfect view of the section the Pentagon was struck??? If the government wants to shut us truthers up, then go ahead and show us the video tapes from those buildings....


I can answer part of that question. The Citgo cameras were pointed *down* at the pumps and to capture license plates. Not once when I went in there to purchase something could the Pentagon be seen in the background shot of those cameras.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by GoodLifeGodLike
Look here's the bottom line. We have seen the planes hit the Towers countless times and how many times have we seen the Pentagon CLEARLY get hit by a 757? ZERO.

How can anyone be so naive as to think a plane hit the Pentagon?


How about the witnesses - there were more than a couple.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 11:15 PM
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Don't we have a right to see the surveillance footage that was confiscated??? Its been 10 years and they still refuse to show us a clip from 9/11...Is the investigation still open or something? Why was the FBI taking footage from the neighboring buildings around the Pentagon, but not taking footage from people, news outlets, etc that were filming the world trade center towers? What made the Pentagon incident special?



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by userid1

Originally posted by GoodLifeGodLike
Look here's the bottom line. We have seen the planes hit the Towers countless times and how many times have we seen the Pentagon CLEARLY get hit by a 757? ZERO.

How can anyone be so naive as to think a plane hit the Pentagon?


How about the witnesses - there were more than a couple.


Good we have witnesses...Now why cant we show the surviellance footage? What do they have to hide?




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