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what about gold /silver? not one word or did i miss it?what does the bill / act say as it is written? www.opencongress.org... it is a long one, and yes it is the bill. here is the site that gives reference to the bills part title and section of where this is in the bill is over 800 pages, and one must know some terminology legal terms and know how to read a bill. www.wyattresearch.com... for you that do OTC you can not do it with gold you have 28 days ok 24 now to sell it. and watch the price fall for the market will be flooded with tons of gold ok not physical gold but paper gold.
Create a Sound Economic Foundation to Grow Jobs, Protect Consumers, Rein in Wall Street and Big Bonuses, End Bailouts and Too Big to Fail, Prevent Another Financial Crisis
SILVER USERS AND OPIUM
Copyright March 2004 Charles Savoie
As I begin writing this on February 17, 2004, I await, like all of you, the arrival of March (or May) to see if COMEX silver deliveries become defaults or attempted postponements. - Long Text
Important Changes to Gold and Silver Trading
If you trade precious metals, take action now to avoid margin calls
As a result of the recently enacted Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, OANDA (U.S.) Corporation is prohibited from offering leveraged trading in precious metals to retail clients after Friday, July 15, 2011.
What does this change mean to your trading?
After July 15, you will still be able to trade precious metal pairs (XAU/USD, XAG/USD, XAU/JPY, XAG/JPY), but only on a 1:1 non-leveraged basis (requiring substantially more margin). If you do not have sufficient margin to cover your open metal positions in full at all times, you will receive a margin closeout (“margin call”).
If you have open positions in gold or silver pairs, you must close these precious metals positions before end of day on July 15 or risk a margin closeout if they do not meet the new margin requirements. - Link
Originally posted by OBE1
I guess we can thank the drama queen hierarchy over at ZeroHedge for the initial burst of blind hysteria surrounding this Dodd-Frank thing...but do we really need to continue spreading the ignorance here on ATS ? Personally I liken Tyler Durdan & Co. to a covey of high school pranksters. You know, the 'edgy' group that might trip a cafeteria fire alarm so they can high-five and giggle amongst themselves over the ensuing chaos. The ZH MO of posturing for clicks is well rehearsed, and by now, widely acknowledged in the real investment community. So on a scale of 1 - 10, ZH probably rates a 1.5 in terms of their ability to manipulate markets...but imho they score a perfect 10 for trendiness and entertainment value.
No offense, but the Silver market is flush with new investors disseminating 'expert advice' - people that probably didn't know what an SAE was until eight months ago when Max Keiser launched his YouTube Crash JP Morgan campaign. Well, by my count the impending collapse of JPM and related Silver default has been predicted every year for the past eight. Excuse me if I don't hold my breath.
SILVER USERS AND OPIUM
Copyright March 2004 Charles Savoie
As I begin writing this on February 17, 2004, I await, like all of you, the arrival of March (or May) to see if COMEX silver deliveries become defaults or attempted postponements. - Long Text
How 'bout 2006 - Silver Default Looming?
Apparently we have ATS-ers that still believe the new regs restrict the private ownership of precious metals. We even have one member implying that Dodd-Frank is somehow a precursor to another Roosevelt style Gold appropriation. For starters I would like to ask this member if he's even remotely familiar with Roosevelt's conundrum in 1933 ? Does he understand the effect of, and remedy for, a deflationary impulse on an economy under a Gold Standard, versus the effect of, and remedy for, a similar impulse on an economy operating under a floating fiat currency regime ? Need I even ask ?
Anyway, back to Dodd-Frank. If you pick through this entire thread you'll actually find a little wheat growing amongst the chaff. incrediblelousminds just planted a few bushels on this page alone
I referenced my Fx broker OANDA in a couple of earlier posts, so here's the skinny straight from their website. US citizens can still trade OTC XAU/XAG as long as their broker has taken the steps to qualify as a Retail Foreign Exchange Dealer registered with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. The only change is the reduction in leverage, and as repeated ad-nauseum in this thread, Dodd-Frank has zero bearing on your ability as a US citizen to purchase and store precious metals.
Important Changes to Gold and Silver Trading
If you trade precious metals, take action now to avoid margin calls
As a result of the recently enacted Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, OANDA (U.S.) Corporation is prohibited from offering leveraged trading in precious metals to retail clients after Friday, July 15, 2011.
What does this change mean to your trading?
After July 15, you will still be able to trade precious metal pairs (XAU/USD, XAG/USD, XAU/JPY, XAG/JPY), but only on a 1:1 non-leveraged basis (requiring substantially more margin). If you do not have sufficient margin to cover your open metal positions in full at all times, you will receive a margin closeout (“margin call”).
If you have open positions in gold or silver pairs, you must close these precious metals positions before end of day on July 15 or risk a margin closeout if they do not meet the new margin requirements. - Link
Just glanced at the ticker...PM's up, dollar up....doesn't get any sweeter.
GL
edit on 17-7-2011 by OBE1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Skerrako
I have said in other threads that my opinion in that everyone knows that the silver shortage is close, and these private exchanges are just trying to minimize their exposure to the coming shortage.
Originally posted by Skerrako
They are essentailly stopping paper trading on their own now, so that when the shortage is exposed by August their hands will be "clean".
Originally posted by Skerrako
It's like a game of musical chairs, someone is going to be left out at the end, and FOREX and CMC did not want to be without a chair.
well no dah, so why not tell us if we are breaking the law or will be, "our records show,... now you must come with us" breaking the law with out knowing the law is not right.
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