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KABUL — Afghan President Hamid Karzai confirmed Saturday for the first time that the Afghan and U.S. governments have begun peace discussions with Taliban insurgents, saying that the talks “have started already” and are “going well,” according to news accounts. He said foreign military forces, “especially the United States,” are “going ahead with these negotiations.”
At the same time, however, Karzai blasted the international governments and forces that have been assisting and defending his government over the past decade.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by TechUnique
Yes, I know I've posted a few threads on the topic over the years. This is the latest update.
So should the US/West declare victory and just pull out?
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Yeah, how is this supposed to work in the real world? Are we going to be flying choppers off the Embassy roof in a last dash for the borders (again)? Or are we going to formally hand over facilities to enemy commanders this time?
If Obama cannot fight to win, I agree we must leave and last year wouldn't have been soon enough once we stopped fighting like we cared about the outcome. However, do we need to completely dump all over the troops and their sacrifices by actually negotiating with the same people who have been ordering attacks against them? In some cases...this may involve Taliban who directly ordered individual operations to kill Americans.
This whole thing makes me sick. Blow the bases, spike the equipment in place and see just how long it REALLY takes to get our troops out with little more than personal gear and their own rifles. I'm betting a matter of DAYS if we simply decide that taking anything with us that can't fit on a transport plane just isn't going to happen.
Let Karzai negotiate with these people when no Americans can be found to so much as offer personal security, let alone give him a stick to negotiate with.