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Revelations: The secret of life, as revealed to John by the only-begotten Light.

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posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 11:17 PM
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your making a lot of things up here and there, look at the quote below, first there were no planes that day, and second all the things you try to make fit the bible is very wrong, your making it up as you go along to fit your bible theories.


Originally posted by Olise
In conrinuation:
These events of the trumpets, denoted in the scriptures (see Judges 8: 9, 1st Chronicles 15: 24, 16: 1, Psalm 81 & 141), commenced September 11th, 2001, which commencement is referred to as 9/11: it is the fullness of the bear; and the four aircrafts with which this commencing event was fulfilled were described in this vision of Ezekiel: "A whirlwind (violent activity) came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst of the fire was as it were the color of amber (fossilized fuel).

In the midst of the whirlwind came the likeness of four living creatures, and they had the likeness of a man: (discern Ezekiel 10: 14). Each one had four faces: the face of a man and the face of a lion on the right side: and the face of an ox on the left side; and all four also had the face of an eagle (at the front: these signify the three religions at war with each other). And each one had four wings, (two at the midsection, and two at the tail).

Their feet were straight; and the sole of their feet was like the sole (hoof) of a calf's foot, (black, rubber-like: their tires): and their color was the color of burnished brass, (burnished metal). And they had the hands of a man under their wings, (the pilot). Their wings do not move (flap, like a bird's), they stay straight. And they do not turn like birds, but stay on course: where ever the spirit (the controls) directed them to go, they went. And their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and they appeared like bright lamps, which went down their stretch. And they went and returned like a flash of lightening (the speed with which airplanes travel).

Each of them had a wheel to each face/side; and one at the front with the eagle face. As for their rings (fuselage), they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes (windows) all around them (their stretch). When they moved, the wheels moved by them: and when they lifted up from the earth, their wheels were lifted up (retracted): for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

And the likeness of the firmament upon the head of the living creatures (the ceiling of the cockpit) was as the color of terrible crystal, (their dim indicator lights). The noise of their wings (jet engines) was like the sound of great waters (thunderous), as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: and when they stood (stopped), they let down their wings (flaps).

And there was a voice from the ceiling when they landed, (announcements from the flight attendant or the pilot). And above the firmament (dominion) of these four was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone, (discern Zechariah 3: 9): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness of a man above upon it.

And I saw the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins upward, and from the appearance of his loins downward (which brought down the towers). As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, (the archer who nourished Islam): and this was the appearance of the likeness of the glory (glorifier) of the LORD."

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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Joecroft
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Hi Olise


I’ll try to hold the fort while you’re away lol



- JC


Hi Joe,

I thought you were going to hold the fort while I was gone? How come you did not respond to The Punisher? Lol!

Peace be with you!!!



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Joecroft
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That’s quite alright, you seem like you have a very good soul. And you wont ever have to seek peace with me, even if we disagree on something. As for the laughter part; I like to laugh and crack jokes, its part of who I am.

- JC

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That's a good thing Joe: the goodness in you does also prevail, and is a beautifull thing to perceive!



Originally posted by Joecroft
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Originally posted by Olise
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil (which the devil has wrought in mankind). Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin, (and the Only-begotten Light is he that is born of God): for his seed remains iin him: he cannot sin because he is born of God."


Yes, but when someone becomes “born of God”, they are not supposed to commit sin anymore. If they are not committing sin anymore, then they are, in effect, honoring both of the commandments.

- JC

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Beloved Joe, once one is born of God, he is no longer in the flesh: for while in the flesh he is yet to be born of the Spirit and abides in corruption, which is flesh. So while in flesh he is unable to keep the two great commandments. He that is without sin is in spirit form, not corruptible flesh. Once one is reborn of the Spirit he will not return to the experience in flesh, but will await the eternal experience in which there shall be no evil: see Revelation 21.

As Paul mentioned in 1st Corinthians 15, "It is sown a natural body (flesh); and it is raised a spiritual body: thus the first man Adam was made a living soul, the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. For flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither does corruption inherit incorruption."

And as he also mentione in Romans 9, "They which are flesh, these are not the children of God." And hence it is written in John 3, "Except a man is born of water (Word) and of the Spirit (resurrected by God), he CANNOT enter into the kingdom of God." And once you enter into the kingdom of God you have entered into your rest (sabath); hence hebrews 4 states, "There remains a rest for the people of God: for he that is entered into his rest has also ceased from his own works, as God did from his." See also Revelation 14: 13.


Originally posted by Joecroft
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Yes, but some men do not even keep the first commandment, never mind the second! Does that mean that the first commandment has not been fulfilled? No, it doesn’t. It only goes to show that they don’t know God.

The same can be applied to the second commandment; in that just because there are those who don’t keep it, doesn’t mean that it hasn’t been fulfilled.

So my point is, that you cant use as your argument, that because no one keeps the second commandent, that this is because it has not been fulfilled yet!, especially when there are people out there, who don’t even honor the first commandment. That’s a form of double logic.

And like I said in one of my previous posts, when you receive the Holy Spirit, all the laws become written on your heart. I also don’t believe that God does things in half measures, that just doesn’t make any sense to me.

Anyway, the whole Jesus is coming back as a sacrifice again, thing!, to fulfill the second commandment, is not something I can agree with. I also don’t wish to debate/argue about it here, because I feel it would just derail your entire thread, which is not my intention, and it is such a big topic in itself, that it deserves to be discussed in a separate thread topic on it’s own. In fact, I’m surprised that no Christians have come on to this thread, to debate it with you.


- JC

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Yes, in spite of the fact that the first great commandment was manifested for people to understand, they still do not keep it; and thus it is written, "It is NOT of works; it is a GIFT of God: that no flesh should glory!"

And likewise, the second great commandment shall also be fulfilled in Christ on man's behalf: for if it were left to man, none of the two would be fulfilled; hence it is written, "That which is impossible with man is possible with God." The only way something can be written in one's heart is through an experience: in experiencing the fulfillment of the second great commandment in Christ, it becomes written into your heart, your conscience bearing witness with you.

And this is not double-logic: for then the first fulfillment would also have been construed as double-logic; given the fact that the Pharisees did all in their power to keep the law, as Jesus also acknowledged in Matthew 5: 20: yet regardless of one's effort, if you keep all of the law and break any part of one, you have broken ALL; hence the Woes unto the scribes and Pharisees.

By the way Joe, I do not debate the Word shown and expounded unto me to deliver: I simply deliver; whoever chooses to receive it can, and whoever chooses to reject also can: for I know that it is my Father in heaven who does all the work; and when he calls and opens unto anyone they receive and perceive, even as you also acknowledged in your post which I have quoted below. But if he chooses to keep certain things under wraps, there is a reason for this, which in time will be understood in awe.


Originally posted by Joecroft
reply to post by Olise
 


On a lighter note lol

I finally managed to get through “The secret book of John” and there are number of parts in it, which have slightly changed my perspective on a number of issues. I also was very excited upon reading the following verse…

The secret book of John


"And he (the chief archon) repented for everything which had come into being through him. This time he planned to bring a flood upon the work of man. But the greatness of the light of the foreknowledge informed Noah, and he proclaimed (it) to all the offspring which are the sons of men. But those who were strangers to him did not listen to him. It is not as Moses said, 'They hid themselves in an ark' (Gn 7: 7), but they hid themselves in a place, not only Noah, but also many other people from the immovable race. They went into a place and hid themselves in a luminous cloud. And he (Noah) recognized his authority, and she who belongs to the light was with him, having shone on them because he (the chief archon) had brought darkness upon the whole earth.



I always felt deep down in my psyche and spirit, that the God that Jesus represents, did not send the flood that attempted to wipe out mankind. Although that is the first time, I have seen it written down anywhere.



- JC

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Untill one comes to a certain knowledge they are ignorant of such; and ignorance is not a bad label, it simply means having no knowledge of such. But once they fall upon this knowledge, they awaken to that which had been dark to them; hence the Word of God is the Light which enlightens every man. And hence Jesus mentioned the blind leading the blind: for a shepherd of the Word who is ignorant misleads the sheep; of which was this statement in John 3: 10, "You call yourself a master of Israel, and yet you do not know these things?".

Peace be with you Joe: you are loved!!!
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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by ThePunisher
your making a lot of things up here and there, look at the quote below, first there were no planes that day, and second all the things you try to make fit the bible is very wrong, your making it up as you go along to fit your bible theories.


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Beloved Punisher,

To what benefit would it be to me if I made things up? I am simply delivering that which was revealed to me. Understand that the vision which Ezekiel saw of these things, which mystery I open up to you, was of the future, which future referred to is now. And understand this, the only reason I refer to the words written in the book you call The Bible is because that is what you know to be the Word of God: though the Word in Spirit, (not the written word), guides you daily in all you do without you realising it, your conscience bearing witness of this!

If you seek understanding through the flesh you cannot understand the mystery: for the flesh is darkness, it has no light, and therefore no knowledge; but when you turn to the Spirit, the Light reveals the truth to you!

Start back at the beginning of this thread; only this time leave all prejudice at the door, which is a hard thing to do, even though you know it is the only way you will discern what is being said, in that you are guarded in fear of falling out of grace, ignorant of the fact that the grace in question is a gift of God. Only then will you discern clearly that which the Light is revealing through the Word, which is being delivered.

Peace be with you Punisher: in time you will no longer be known as Punisher, but Compassion!!!



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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your post below, you have taken all those bible quotes out of context to fit a modern day event.


Originally posted by Olise
In conrinuation:
These events of the trumpets, denoted in the scriptures (see Judges 8: 9, 1st Chronicles 15: 24, 16: 1, Psalm 81 & 141), commenced September 11th, 2001, which commencement is referred to as 9/11: it is the fullness of the bear; and the four aircrafts with which this commencing event was fulfilled were described in this vision of Ezekiel: "A whirlwind (violent activity) came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst of the fire was as it were the color of amber (fossilized fuel).

In the midst of the whirlwind came the likeness of four living creatures, and they had the likeness of a man: (discern Ezekiel 10: 14). Each one had four faces: the face of a man and the face of a lion on the right side: and the face of an ox on the left side; and all four also had the face of an eagle (at the front: these signify the three religions at war with each other). And each one had four wings, (two at the midsection, and two at the tail).

Their feet were straight; and the sole of their feet was like the sole (hoof) of a calf's foot, (black, rubber-like: their tires): and their color was the color of burnished brass, (burnished metal). And they had the hands of a man under their wings, (the pilot). Their wings do not move (flap, like a bird's), they stay straight. And they do not turn like birds, but stay on course: where ever the spirit (the controls) directed them to go, they went. And their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and they appeared like bright lamps, which went down their stretch. And they went and returned like a flash of lightening (the speed with which airplanes travel).

Each of them had a wheel to each face/side; and one at the front with the eagle face. As for their rings (fuselage), they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes (windows) all around them (their stretch). When they moved, the wheels moved by them: and when they lifted up from the earth, their wheels were lifted up (retracted): for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

And the likeness of the firmament upon the head of the living creatures (the ceiling of the cockpit) was as the color of terrible crystal, (their dim indicator lights). The noise of their wings (jet engines) was like the sound of great waters (thunderous), as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: and when they stood (stopped), they let down their wings (flaps).

And there was a voice from the ceiling when they landed, (announcements from the flight attendant or the pilot). And above the firmament (dominion) of these four was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone, (discern Zechariah 3: 9): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness of a man above upon it.

And I saw the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins upward, and from the appearance of his loins downward (which brought down the towers). As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, (the archer who nourished Islam): and this was the appearance of the likeness of the glory (glorifier) of the LORD."

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posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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In continuation:

Discern this allegory which Paul spoke of to you in Galatians 4: "My little children, of whom I travail in birth until Christ be formed in you, I am perplexed for you. Tell me, you that desire to be under the law/bondage, do you not hear the law? It is written, Abraham had two sons, one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise."

(The freewoman is the soul, the heavenly; and the bondwoman is the flesh, the earthling: man, born of the flesh, is not a son of God, but son of man; but the resurrected spirit is born of the Spirit, becoming Son of God: discern Acts 13: 33, Luke 20: 36 and Romans 8: 21).

"These things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which genders to bondage, is Agar/Religiosity: for Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and is in the same rank with terrestrial Jerusalem, and is in bondage with her children": (for earth itself is in bondage and susceptible to other forces).

"But Jerusalem which is above, (which transcends all forces), the mother of us all, is free. But as it were then that he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now." Hence the flesh wars against the spirit; confounding, oppressing and afflicting it through demons of addictions, desires, infirmities, and fear of its manifested true nature as corpse.

This bondage has nothing to do with the lineage of Ishmael/Islam: for Mohammed was also sent, and reverenced Christ, esteeming the First and the Last; but bondage is with all religions: for the bondwoman is the mother of flesh, and is subject to religiosity; but the freewoman is the mother of the spirit in whose womb you are being developed, till you become birthed a godly offspring, born of the Spirit.

He that seeks to bear rule over you incites fear in you, that he may hold you in bondage/enslavement to exact from you: and the power of religion is the confusion that generates fear and exaction, bound by precepts and deluded beliefs that turn you passionately against each other, causing division within the body; but knowledge of the truth liberates you from all fear and bondage; peace and love becoming your virtue: discern Romans 8: 6.

Yet as testified in Jesus, "You will prefer the ignorance that has kept you in bondage over the light of your salvation"; see also Exodus 14: 12. Discern that which Isaiah 30, 48 and Zechariah 14 edify, "The day of the Lord is a day of enlightenment: on that day the light/enlightenment shall neither be clear nor dark, but wonderful; not daytime or nighttime. It shall come to pass, that at evening time (toward the end) it shall be light (enlightenment shall come: truth shall be revealed).

And in that day living waters (living word of life covering all faiths) shall go out from Jerusalem (Prince of Peace); half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea, (the east and the west): in summer and in winter (time of famine) shall it be. And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one." For your strife against each other is but ignorance.

Thus Zephaniah prophesied, "Then will I restore to the people a pure language/doctrine, that they may serve the Lord with one consent": for as you were told in Jesus, "A house divided cannot stand".

And as written in Isaiah 30, "The light of the moon (the bride) shall be as the light of the sun (the husbandry), and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD binds up the breach of his people, and heals the stroke of their wound."

Iniquity wounds the spirit, and love heals the spirit: with healing comes peace, and with peace comes unity: in unity is great strength, transcending all external forces; iniquity can only be displaced by love, and without love there is no healing, and without healing there is no peace. Love is unconditional: you don’t love expecting to be loved in return; you love because your spirit found itself/you in them, thus finding God. If a person does not love you in return you cannot blame them for not feeling what you feel; in continuing to express love to them, they too shall be drawn to love through you: for that which you spread multiplies.

As continued in Revelation, "There appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun (the freewoman: heavenly Jerusalem) and the moon (the bondmaid: earthly Jerusalem) under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars upon her head: and she being with child cried, travailing in birth, pained to be delivered.

And there appeared another wonder in heaven (the spirit realm); and behold a great red dragon/the adversary/religiosity, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon its heads. And his tail/guile drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: (discern Psalm 2): and her child was caught up to God, and to his throne.

And the woman fled into the wilderness (uncultivated multitude), where she has a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days: (see 2nd Peter 3: 8).

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, and did not prevail; neither was their place found anymore in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent known as the Devil and Satan, which deceives the whole world (professing to be an angel of light): he was cast out into the earth along with his angels/ministers: (discern 2nd Corinthians 11: 14-15).

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, 'Now is come salvation, strength, and the kingdom of our God, (for God is not the author of confusion), and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night: (see Job 1: 9). And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives to the death. Therefore rejoice you heavens, and you that dwell in them. Woe to the inhibiters of the earth and of the sea! For the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time'.

And when the dragon saw that he was cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. And the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, (uncultivated multitude), into her place, where she is nourished for a time, times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

And the serpent cast out of his mouth water/doctrine as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman: the earth opened her mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

To be continued...

Peace be with you!!!



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by ThePunisher
your post below, you have taken all those bible quotes out of context to fit a modern day event.


Originally posted by Olise
In conrinuation:
These events of the trumpets, denoted in the scriptures (see Judges 8: 9, 1st Chronicles 15: 24, 16: 1, Psalm 81 & 141), commenced September 11th, 2001, which commencement is referred to as 9/11: it is the fullness of the bear; and the four aircrafts with which this commencing event was fulfilled were described in this vision of Ezekiel: "A whirlwind (violent activity) came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst of the fire was as it were the color of amber (fossilized fuel).

In the midst of the whirlwind came the likeness of four living creatures, and they had the likeness of a man: (discern Ezekiel 10: 14). Each one had four faces: the face of a man and the face of a lion on the right side: and the face of an ox on the left side; and all four also had the face of an eagle (at the front: these signify the three religions at war with each other). And each one had four wings, (two at the midsection, and two at the tail).

Their feet were straight; and the sole of their feet was like the sole (hoof) of a calf's foot, (black, rubber-like: their tires): and their color was the color of burnished brass, (burnished metal). And they had the hands of a man under their wings, (the pilot). Their wings do not move (flap, like a bird's), they stay straight. And they do not turn like birds, but stay on course: where ever the spirit (the controls) directed them to go, they went. And their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and they appeared like bright lamps, which went down their stretch. And they went and returned like a flash of lightening (the speed with which airplanes travel).

Each of them had a wheel to each face/side; and one at the front with the eagle face. As for their rings (fuselage), they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes (windows) all around them (their stretch). When they moved, the wheels moved by them: and when they lifted up from the earth, their wheels were lifted up (retracted): for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

And the likeness of the firmament upon the head of the living creatures (the ceiling of the cockpit) was as the color of terrible crystal, (their dim indicator lights). The noise of their wings (jet engines) was like the sound of great waters (thunderous), as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: and when they stood (stopped), they let down their wings (flaps).

And there was a voice from the ceiling when they landed, (announcements from the flight attendant or the pilot). And above the firmament (dominion) of these four was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone, (discern Zechariah 3: 9): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness of a man above upon it.

And I saw the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins upward, and from the appearance of his loins downward (which brought down the towers). As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, (the archer who nourished Islam): and this was the appearance of the likeness of the glory (glorifier) of the LORD."

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Beloved Punisher, it is important that I post the entire quote above, that those who read your query might understand what is being queried.

Having said that, if the prophecies were about the future, which they were, would it not seem as fitting modern day events, as the future is now? Else, what would be the essence of the prophecies, if they did not fit events of the time which the prophecies were about? Know that the Word is symbolic; not literal.

Do not dwell on the events, but on the reason for the events. There will always be storms; but a wise one does not dwell on the destructions, but on the silver-lining in the storm. If you find yourself living on a fault-line, will you dwell on the earthquake and its destruction, or will you learn from it and move away from the fault-line?

True love transcends all things; and awakening to the divine Spirit of whom you are transcends all terrestrial concerns and events, understanding why they must occur and the final outcome of all things. Look to that hope which has been granted you, and the life that awaits you: for you are precious!

Peace be with you Punisher!!!



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by Olise
Hi Joe,

I thought you were going to hold the fort while I was gone? How come you did not respond to The Punisher? Lol!


LOL

If anyone had asked about the “Secret Book of John”, I would have covered for you. But seeing as the Punisher was addressing a large quote of yours; I didn’t want to assume how you understood those passages, that the Punisher had highlighted. Plus I wasn’t really sure which part of that highlighted text, he was specifically addressing.

Just didn’t wana get punished lol


Peace be with you Olise


- JC



posted on Aug, 5 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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In continuation:

"And I stood upon the sand of the sea (a religious multitude), and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (out of religiosity), having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name/names of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were as the feet of a bear (walked in the likeness of the bear), and his mouth/propaganda as the mouth of a lion: see Daniel 2: 40-43 and 7: 4-7; and the dragon gave him his power, his seat and great authority.

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshiped the dragon/Satan which gave power to the beast, and worshiped the beast, saying, 'Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?'

And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies: and power was given him to continue (oppress) forty two months (months of years). And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle (the First and the Last), and them that dwell in heaven.

And it was given him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, tongues, and nations: see Luke 4: 6. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

He that has an ear let him hear. He that leads into captivity shall go into captivity: he that kills with the sword shall be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints: (here are they that awaken to their divinity, the travail of their tribulations not being in vain. Though many shall fall prey to a strong and confounding delusion; yet he that holds precious the water of Shiloh, though he was born blind, shall see, and have life: discern John 9 and Revelation 3: 18.)

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, (a false prophetic spirit of science); and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke as a dragon. And he exercised all the power of the first beast before him, causing they that dwell on the earth to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

And he performed great wonders, (see Matthew 24: 24, Luke 9: 54-56 and 2nd Thessalonians 2: 9), so that he made fire come down from heaven onto the earth in the sight of men, deceiving all that dwell on the earth by those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast which had the wound by a sword and lived.

And he had power to give life to (make to look alive) the image of the beast, that both should speak, and cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. And he causes all, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads: (allegiance): that no one can buy or sell except he had the mark/ensign or the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom: He that has understanding, count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man, (whom you worship: a primate; you cannot worship flesh as Spirit: this is a confounding logic; the flesh is simply a vessel); and his number is Six hundred sixty and six."

(O, that you would enlighteningly stay sober, your spirit exercised in the truth, that you might discern the guile of the beast; and not slumber in the comfort of your captivity, and fall prey to his delusion: discern Revelation 3: 14-22. True signs and miracles were ordained of the First, true wisdom and enlightenment of the Last: see 1st Corinthians 1: 22-24; but of the prophets of the beast are confounding powers, signs and lying wonders.

In the pattern of the temple of God which Solomon built, there are two pillars of priceless brass, signifying the First and the Last, whose heights are eighteen cubits each: the first was named Jachim, which means He shall establish the kingdom, and the last was named Boaz, which means In him is strength of the kingdom: see 1st Kings 7: 21 and Jeremiah 52: 20; yet the false glory of a lifeless make-belief image of even them cannot be justified: discern Daniel 3. He that succumbs to an image succumbs to enslavement, regardless of whose image it is and what it represents: and the power of enslavement is fear, and the power of fear is ignorance.

Discern the symbols of six hundred sixty and six in Greek: for they signify the serpent, double-logic of the beast, which is looked upon for salvation: discern Numbers 21: 9. He that fears not the death of his flesh, knowing that as life he must shed death, gains everything.)

To be continued...

Peace be with you, as you awaken to your divinity!!!



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Olise
Hi Joe,

I thought you were going to hold the fort while I was gone? How come you did not respond to The Punisher? Lol!


LOL



If anyone had asked about the “Secret Book of John”, I would have covered for you. But seeing as the Punisher was addressing a large quote of yours; I didn’t want to assume how you understood those passages, that the Punisher had highlighted. Plus I wasn’t really sure which part of that highlighted text, he was specifically addressing.

Just didn’t wana get punished lol

Peace be with you Olise

- JC



Lol!

The Punisher's got a good heart, he doesn't mean any harm: he's simply seeking understanding of these things; and that's his way of asking.

Peace be with you as well Joe!!!



posted on Aug, 6 2011 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Olise

Originally posted by Joecroft
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Originally posted by Olise
Hi Joe,

I thought you were going to hold the fort while I was gone? How come you did not respond to The Punisher? Lol!


LOL



If anyone had asked about the “Secret Book of John”, I would have covered for you. But seeing as the Punisher was addressing a large quote of yours; I didn’t want to assume how you understood those passages, that the Punisher had highlighted. Plus I wasn’t really sure which part of that highlighted text, he was specifically addressing.

Just didn’t wana get punished lol

Peace be with you Olise

- JC



Lol!

The Punisher's got a good heart, he doesn't mean any harm: he's simply seeking understanding of these things; and that's his way of asking.

Peace be with you as well Joe!!!


you are slightly psychic, but you need to learn and start again in life and understanding, you are just another false bible prophet and there have been many of those.



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Please bear with me through my travels.

In continuation:

"And I looked and saw a Lamb standing on the mount Sion (heavenly Jerusalem), and with him a hundred and forty four thousand, with his Father’s name written in their foreheads, (surnamed after God). And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, (nourishing Word unto all the faiths turned religions: hence, many waters), and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: and they sang as it were a new song before the throne and the four beasts and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty four thousand redeemed from the earth.

These are they which were not defiled with women/religions: for they are virgins: (this has nothing to do with the female gender, but religion, referred to as Woman, being a matrix: these are they which did not succumb to religiosity). These are they which followed the Lamb wherever he went. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb: (the first once to ripen). And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven (the airwaves of the spiritual realm), having the everlasting gospel to preach to them that dwell on the earth, (see Ephesians 3: 9 and Titus 1: 2), to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, 'Fear/revere God, and give glory to him: for the hour of his judgment is come; and worship him that made heaven, earth, the sea and the fountains of waters'.

And another angel followed, saying, 'Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication'. And the third angel followed, saying aloud, 'If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, he shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation: and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment ascends up forever; and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, or receive the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus'.

And I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, 'Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, says the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors: and their works do follow them'; (as also denoted in Hebrews 4: 9 & 10).

And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud sat one like the Son of man, with a golden crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. And another angel came out of the temple, crying aloud to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in your sickle and reap; it is time for you to reap: the harvest of the earth is ripe: perfection accomplished. And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried aloud to him that had the sharp sickle, Thrust in your sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth (the vessels of sustenance which are of the earth, through which the fruit/grape/offspring is grown to perfection): for her grapes are fully ripe: (the spirits are ready to be harvested).

And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even to the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand six hundred furlongs."

To start with, it is necessary to understand that these tribulations spoken of are not meant for your destruction, but for your perfection, eliminating deficiency/evil; preparing you to take on the glory of the next experience, which is the world to come. The tribulations are generated as part of your refinement; yet it also leads to the destruction of the current experience, since the time of transition is at hand, making way for a better experience.

The All, which are offspring, have been engendered, birthed, raised, and are being refined experientially in this world unto perfection for the new world to come: a world in which your abilities will be as limitless as your imagination: hence your refinement into godliness, being one of many.

The price of glorification is the tribulation of refinement in your earthly tabernacle, sacrificed for your perfection: for as you were told in Isaiah 66: 20, "They shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD, out of all nations, to my holy mountain Jerusalem: it shall be an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD"; discern also Romans 15: 16.

That which is of the earth, the primate’s reality, returns/reconciles to the earth, out of which it became; and that which is of the heavenly returns in perfection to the heavens from whence it came, having completed its refining process.

As I mentioned earlier, the reality of the experience exists in each partitioned soul within the context of that soul’s perceptive reality, part of a broad reality within the universal structure of the First Born Soul: hence that which might seem as Quantum Mechanics. In other words, your reality is that which you perceive within the context of your environment, which yet is a part of the overall reality that is the universal structure constructed within the First Born Soul.

Having been engendered within the structure of the First Born Soul, the mother of the All, your refinement has been engineered within it as well, even as the First Born Soul also is morphing, in preparation for the new world; and that which is programmed within it affects all of its partitions in a wave-form manner, being cloned images of the First Born Soul; and it is through this that all are being refined.

You experience the reality within your perceptible context by particles, yet are a part of another reality by wave: in other words, an electrical wave/light, inspired through electro-magnetic energy, is guiding each particle at all times; and through this you are being transformed.

Upon the completion of all refinement comes the destruction of that which is corruptible; at which stage the incorruptible is generated into being. The seven vials of wrath not only complete the refining process, but also lead to the final destruction of this deficient world. And as the First Born Soul morphs, so also shall all of its partitions morph.


To be continued...

Peace be with you!!!



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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I am maintaining patience....


I hope your travels are fun and you are enjoying yourself to the fullest!!

Peace and love to you Olise.

Jenn



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by ThePunisher

you are slightly psychic, but you need to learn and start again in life and understanding, you are just another false bible prophet and there have been many of those.


Beloved Punisher,

The only reason you refer to what I write as False is because you are yet to comprehend it. Stay with me on this thread, and you will come to realize there is nothing false about it


Peace be with you Punisher: for you are loved!!!



posted on Aug, 10 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by MamaJ
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I am maintaining patience....


I hope your travels are fun and you are enjoying yourself to the fullest!!

Peace and love to you Olise.

Jenn


Lol!!!

Hi Jenn,

Thanks for the kind thoughts...that which one has to do, he/she finds him/herself doing. As long as you look to the hope at the end, you will always find joy in all that you are faced with.

I trust all's well with you!

Peace and love to you as well Jenn!!!



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Point of correction in the last post: "Metamorphosing", not "morphing".

In continuation:

"The Seven Vials of wrath: And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvelous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. And I saw as it were a sea of glass (crystal-like: infinite reflection) mingled with fire: and them that were victorious over the beast, his image, his mark, and the number of his name, stood on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, 'Great and marvelous are your works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are your ways O King of saints/ages: who shall not fear you, O Lord, and glorify your name? for you only are holy: for all nations shall come and worship before you; for your judgments are made manifest'.

And after that I saw the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: and the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and their breasts girded with golden girdles.

And one of the four beasts gave the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who lives forever. And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, 'Go and pour out your vials of the wrath of God upon the earth'. And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth (earthly); and there fell a noisome and grievous sore/plague upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and they that worshiped his image.

And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea, and it became as the blood of a dead man; and every living soul died in the sea: (unto metamorphosis: for, again, as the First Born Soul is metamorphosing, so also are its partitions).

And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters say, 'You are righteous O Lord, which is, and was, and shall be, because you have judged thus: for they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and you have given them blood to drink in return': (discern Isaiah 49: 26). And I heard another out of the altar say, 'Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are your judgments'.

And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which has power over these plagues: and they would not repent of their ignorance and give God glory.

And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast, (the throne of religiosity: see 1st Timothy 4: 1 and James 3: 15); and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared: (discern Isaiah 41: 2 & 25). And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet: for they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth to gather the kings of the earth and of the whole world to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

'Behold, I come as a thief: Blessed is he that watches, with his garment on, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame:' (discern Matthew 24: 42-44). And he gathered them together into a place called Armageddon in Hebrew: (where the temple mount of religiosity shall be made plain).

And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air, (discern Ephesians 2: 2); and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, 'It is done'. And there were voices, thunders and lightenings; and there was an earthquake, mighty and great, such as was not since men were upon the earth: (see Daniel 12: 1).

And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give to her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague was exceedingly great."

To be continued...

Peace be with you!!!



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