Originally posted by MBF

Originally posted by groingrinder

It is SUPPOSED TO TAKE SEVERAL SECONDS, but because communications had to go through AUSTRALIA, then to Houston the electrons spent some time getting the NASA runaround before being broadcast to the public. Amateur radio operators in Australia however intercepted the transmissions there before they could be "cleaned up" by NASA. Do the research and do not expect everybody to drop stories into your laps!!! I have found this much with just a small amount of searching. There are many websites out there dealing with this content. FIND THEM....I DID

I was sitting in front of the tv watching Armstrong on the moon and I remember the reaction time being seconds not minutes. It's been a long time, but I don't think my memory is that bad.

WHAT YOU WERE WATCHING ON YOUR SCREEN WAS NASA'S VERSION OF THE EVENTS. You could not possibly watch in real time as the soundtrack and video travel at the same speed from the moon to the earth. Watchers in Australia tuning to the actual signal from the spacecraft and NOT THE NASA TRANSMISSION heard something slightly different.

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Originally posted by groingrinder
You could not possibly watch in real time as the soundtrack and video travel at the same speed from the moon to the earth. Watchers in Australia tuning to the actual signal from the spacecraft and NOT THE NASA TRANSMISSION heard something slightly different.

See?

Harak it is too bad you will not give more. The point of your first post then I presume was just to say that there is life out there and don't be fooled. Which is fine I suppose, despite the fact that those who have an open mind already know that, and those who don't won't change their minds because of your post. You could have just as easily worded your first post quite differently that would have opened the conversation without your having to suggest you know somethings we don't, but you didn't. Why?

Anyway, I was a teenager at the time of the first moon missions, my father was a scifi fanatic, who worked at Spar Aerospace, so he was following every bit of information there was. I recall him telling me that at one point Armstrong and Aldrin (AP11) got quite excited and exclaimed something to the effect of " what was that?" followed by something referencing another craft passing them. At which time the voice was cut. I vividly recall the newspaper runnning pictures taken from the surface, and on the front page was the most startling of all, a picture of the moon's horizon and far to the right, a very bright light.

I've been wondering why we no longer seem to have an interesting in a moonbase. Now if there is anything at all on the moon, it is likely on the dark side, because I'm sure even amateur astronomers would be able to find any structures.

For some reason, I 'm getting the impression you're suggesting Milky Way inhabitants along the lines of the hollow earth theory.

edited to add something I just recalled.
Was it not so that Apollo 11 apparently left behind a plaque that said WE Come In Peace, and a cassette tape of all of the languages? Or was that some fiction that I am recalling?

[edit on 8/10/04 by SomewhereinBetween]

Houston, There is a Santa Claus!

Originally posted by SomewhereinBetween
Harak it is too bad you will not give more.

» Right or wrong, good or bad; always duality pursuing our thoughts and actions.

My way of communicating with this great community of people, is based in what i know/believe.
Proofs and evidences, or any other comment, supporting everything i say, will always come by other people that:

» Are Enlighted.

» Experienced or saw unusual phenomenons ... that made them ... Enlighted.

(...)Anyway, I was a teenager at the time of the first moon missions, my father was a scifi fanatic, who worked at Spar Aerospace, so he was following every bit of information there was. I recall him telling me that at one point Armstrong and Aldrin (AP11) got quite excited and exclaimed something to the effect of " what was that?" followed by something referencing another craft passing them. At which time the voice was cut. I vividly recall the newspaper runnning pictures taken from the surface, and on the front page was the most startling of all, a picture of the moon's horizon and far to the right, a very bright light.

I've been wondering why we no longer seem to have an interesting in a moonbase. Now if there is anything at all on the moon, it is likely on the dark side, because I'm sure even amateur astronomers would be able to find any structures. (...)

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See?

Cya all later!
HARAK.


[edit on 11/8/04 by HARAK]

Originally posted by groingrinder

WHAT YOU WERE WATCHING ON YOUR SCREEN WAS NASA'S VERSION OF THE EVENTS. You could not possibly watch in real time as the soundtrack and video travel at the same speed from the moon to the earth. Watchers in Australia tuning to the actual signal from the spacecraft and NOT THE NASA TRANSMISSION heard something slightly different.

I know that it takes only 3-4 seconds for a signal to go from Florida or Texas to Australia then to the moon and back. Please explain to me why you claim a 2 minute delay or the reason for it. I know what I saw and heard. Did you watch the moon landing?

Originally posted by HARAK


»»It is my opinion, that, US Astronauts, did in fact landed on Moon, but NOT as we saw. what we saw, was a .... movie, recorded during more than 4 months.(actually it's not easy to recreate a lunar environment, right?LOL)

Sorry but no, there was no rocket that can provide enogh power to carry space ship that can go to moon and mars.(NOT in 50s,60s, maybe in 70s)

i was always under the assumption that once you get into space you dont need power to travel as there is no friction, so you just continue in whatever direction and speed you where going before you hit space

Where is the proof? no documents, pics, sounds, hmmm? Sounds like a childrens book about aliens and such. I believe that NASA had taped the moon landing just to make sure nothing would go wrong. What people watched on TV was nothing more than a "live"taped video.

Originally posted by mpeake

Observer, you are dead on IMO. Every sentence Kangaxx and Harak uses is gramatically identical to each other. Down the the signature at the end of the conversation:

C Ya!

Listen carefully waht i will told you:

Last time you was annoying me with out a reason in my old aliens topic, i was "peacefull", and i have just plain ignored you with out further damage to you. why? simple, because fristly i avoid to have probles with any one, second because my primal objective in that topic was to realy inform,share with others, and running a estatistic test.so, for the sake of the primal objectives ot the topic i was the more kind possible to you i can at the time. now, the situation is extremly diferent!, i am here by my right, and by my will only, using a public place where you me and all the other members have the full right to be here with out been hassaulted or to became embarrassed. if you think that this time i will alow you to joke on me , or mess with me all the time again , you are playing the wrong game, if you try to use again the same persistent stupid actitudes agaisnt me as you have used in the past, i will use all my possible legal and proper ways in ATS to defend my self.
you have used my old topic(as more 2 guys) from the very beggining until the end to lie about me, bashed me, saying huge lies with out a single proof.
so if you want to joke on people that you do not know from nowhere,in a total lack of respect, and stating more lies all the time maybe it is better to chose other more "fresh" victim or find other scandlemongers similar to you to "play" toguether!
i will not alowed more stupidity from you. and think beter each time you decide to tell another lie about me.
people like you must be erradicated form respected places like ATS. what we need need here is friend ship, and people capable of mature and respected debate and investigation skills.
if all you can to do is offend, lie, and hassault the members, better walk away or change your actitudes!

P.S. you was in my ignored list just in the Topic's time, now i don´t need anymore to have you in that status.

[edit on 12-8-2004 by kangaxx]

But what I see here with Harek's spiel (as for the whole is he this dude and is this weird bad english actually that dude etc etc.. god knows.. I only signed on to ATS today) is a rather typical reaction to the overwhelming influence of TOO MUCH INFORMATION. When you consider how little we as humans could understand or even percieve the world around us effectively until long after the middle ages, and media information hasnt really gone nuts until the internet, it is no wonder that people become overwhelmed in the sheer volumes of information now available.. not only available but almost manditory.. we are bombarded with truth, bull#, half proved theory and sheer conjecture everyday... and thats just musing over your ceral box in the morning. My point is that the sheer need to rationalise all this crap (which is impossible, as some is 'fact', some percieved 'fact' and the rest mostly crap) swings up these fired up hyposthesise, which string together numerous rational questions and concerns into a fantastical story which tries to answer them all. I think you gotta keep your imagination, and there are many f88ked up things which require major independant debate and investigation (by the way its really nice to find this place, thanks all for the warm welcome earlier)... but stories like this dont get us anywhere. The truth is probably far more bizzare and complicated, and at the same time probable more mundane too...

but hey... just a thought

Originally posted by mpeake
Observer, you are dead on IMO. Every sentence Kangaxx and Harak uses is gramatically identical to each other. Down the the signature at the end of the conversation:

C Ya!

Kangaxx & Harak are sharing the same house...

PS; Why did you say..."Observer, you are dead on IMO"
What is IMO?

[edit on 15-8-2004 by Italiano]