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Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by Forevever
The U.S. Census Bureau has reported that fathers with joint custody pay 90.2% of all child support ordered; fathers with limited visitation rights pay 79.1%; and 44.5% of those fathers with NO visitation rights still financially support their children.
This might answer it for you. Question, Do you think FATHERS cant raise children? Seems the courts agree with that premise,as MOTHERS get the majority of PRIMARY PLACEMENT.edit on 19-6-2011 by sonnny1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by gimme_some_truth
Suicide is a cowardly act in my belief system. Fair on that and most religions agree. However, shooting yourself in the head is a world different from burning yourself to death. I'm not a martyr. I'll admit, I see myself as screaming like a school girl to the last breath in this..the worst of all ways..to die. This man was like the Vietnamese Buddhists who died silent and stoic. What does that require??? I sure don't have whatever that takes and I dare say, few if any here do. Mental Illness doesnt even cover it...I don't think being nuts would hold past the first waves of pain from head to toe and right into the body core from the lungs. Nope...
What kind of mindset does it take..to experience full body pain beyond out worst nightmares...and not utter much, if anything...but just be there and die.
Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by Frira
Wow bro you really got taken for a ride, but like you said you should of seen the forest for the trees. If I were you I would forget about your kids and especially that thing you used to call your wife. You really need to move on, getting stuck in the past wont do nothing, and trust you me, your family, and ex wont even spare a second thought for you.
Really the last people you can trust on earth is females when it comes down to it, unfortunately all the bad things they say about them is all true, and then some. And this whole thing with the feminism wont end well me thinks if it keeps going on like this, and really it's not about them anyways, but as a means to other things which really ultimately has nothing to do with humanity in general, or males or females. The future is more bizarre then anybody can even imagine or dream of.
And truth is harsher and more bizarre then fiction, that's why the one of the worst things you can do, or tell somebody, is tell them the truth.
And the truth is you were a fool, and to keep thinking on the past such as you do, is a continuation of that foolishness, and I would worry about your ex, as you no doubt know by now females have there ways and really they don't have it that hard when it comes to certain things no matter how much they whine or say things are not fair for them. Its all bull# dude. If anything they have way more options then male types, and always had it so.edit on 19-6-2011 by galadofwarthethird because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
If that is the kind of behavior you reward.... Abandoning your children and loved ones, not paying child support and killing yourself, then you need to get your priorities straight.
Originally posted by civilchallenger
James Ball burned himself to death on June 16, 2011 using a large amount of gasoline in front of the Keene, New Hampshire court house. Thomas Ball in a "suicide letter" stated he believed he would end up in jail, saying:
I am due in court the end of the month. The ex-wife lawyer wants me jailed for back child support. The amount ranges from $2,200. to $3,000. depending on who you ask. Not big money after being separated over ten years and unemployed for the last two. But I do owe it. If I show up for court without the money and the lawyer say jail, then the judge will have the bailiff take me into custody.
This is really sad. RIP.
I am one who has experienced this area of the system and it does get you down, WAY DOWN its sad he couldnt see beyound the financial strains and social strains to see better days may have still been in his future. I feel his pain and saddness from losing all he was working for, you just gotta when you get down pick yourself back up and keep it moving with what you got even if its not much and try to rebuild from that.
I am just amazed at how far he went to show his upsetness by doing this to himself...... Because I know the feeling when you can get overwhelmed financially and it can get ruff. the amount he owed was a large amount but he felt so afraid of prison and failure endured within the prisons that he took his own life sad.
1 can only hope many others caught up in the financial issues can overcome them somehow and not feel that self sarifice is a worthy solution.
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Considering that Christians are supposed to follow their Leader to death (martyrdom), if necessery, the Catholic stance is not quite all right in the head. Not all who kill themselves are suicides, per se. Now, killing yourself for no good reason? (Anyone remember the play written from the Salem Witch Trials? The man who was pressed to death by stones refused to confess, but stated "more weight" because if he died, he confessed to nothing. In the religious sense, he still stood by his faith in God in that he did not deny his Christianity to save himself from the torture. In the monetary sense, since he never confessed, his lands and prosperity was not confiscated, but went to his inheritors because there was no confession to witchcraft to enable the court to seize property.)
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
It's extremely sad that he saw this as the only way out of his problems. I do not judge people who commit suicide. I believe in reincarnation and a wise person said we have all dont it in some past life. I also believe that the Catholic Church has the wrong attitude on services for suicided people. That being said, I do not believe in suicide per se, but feel compassion for those who are lost in the way and feel utterly hopeless.
The next day, life went on in America. There was no shocking front-page cover story or award-winning photograph to spark a national debate… let alone propel droves of fed-up citizens to flood the streets demanding change.
Rather, the New Hampshire courthouse cleaned up his charred remains and meticulously scrubbed the floors to eliminate all trace of the event. 24-hour news networks ran a quick blurb in their scrolling tickers amid more important coverage of the Miss USA beauty pageant and President Obama’s Father’s Day plans.
In other words, business as usual… suggesting that if there is, in fact, going to be a fight for the soul of the country, it’s a long way off, and many more degrees for the boiling frogs who are stuck in the pot.
My assessment of this situation, however controversial it may be, remains very clear: the great faceless enemy that opposes us, irrespective of our country of origin, is the institution of government.
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I really sympathize with the guy for being down on his luck. Can't put a man into jail and hope to "G-d" he would pay back what he owes when he gets out, if ever. I'm not familiar with the debtor system but there should be ways to make payments so that it is a "win-win" situation for both parties. Sometimes, I find it heartless for WOMEN would go that far and ruin a man's life further by putting him to jail. I suppose that death was better by his own hands than at the mercy of the kangaroo court and jail time with his new friends.