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Originally posted by SteveR
There's something wrong with the parenting if violence is required.
Originally posted by dolphinfan
A felony? This woman gets a felony conviction for giving her kid a typical spanking?
But what right does this judge think that he can tell this woman not to mildly spank her child?
Spanking a child mildly is an effective tool in teaching disciplining a child. Certainly it should be used after other methods are attempted, but giving a kid a swat on the kiester is not child abuse and certainly should not be considered a felony.
The kid was not harmed, the kid was taken to the hospital and no injury observed.
The entire business was brought forth by the paternal grandmother? Is it likely that there is a bit of bad blood between the two? Absolutely.
If we had our kids totally doped up on drugs the way the elite would prefer there would not be any misbehaving, so perhaps the solution to not get convicted of a felony when, after other methods of displine fail, you give your kid a spanking.
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Abuse does not include reasonable discipline by a parent/guardian/managing or possessory conservator if child not exposed to substantial risk of harm. Family Code § 261.001. [Civil Code] Parent/stepparent/person standing in loco parentis to child is justified to use non-deadly force against a child under 18 when and to degree the actor reasonably believes necessary to discipline, or safeguard or promote child's welfare. Penal § 9.61. [Criminal Code]
Originally posted by Unity_99
I would like to know where the law is, that allowed this case to go forward.
Originally posted by beezzer
And people wonder why the kids today are so messed up. No discipline. No structure. No moral guidance. No attention, period!
I love my son. I spend time with him. I talk to him. And in the past, I swatted his butt. He learned. He learned that there are consequences for certain actions. Cause and effect.
He does bad, he gets punished. Children today can act with impunity because they have no fear, no remorse for an incorrect action.
Someone obviously didn't spank the judge enough!
Originally posted by ExPostFacto
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
That appears to be a likely scenario. Her lawyer needs to have his license suspended then. Same goes for the judge allowing a guilty plea for a crime that appears not to have the elements present to allege a crime.
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
This is all just my opinion and it absolutely goes against the grain here...
As a mother...and someone who as a child was spanked with hands and objects such as paddles and belts (and it went too far, often). I grew to disrespect and absolute fear of my parents not love and respect for them. It taught me nothing except to fear them and hate them.
I am absolutely against spanking. I actually cringe and feel anxiety when I see a parent hit a child. Spanking is hitting, IMO. If an adult used the same on another adult, it would be an assault. I do not believe that inflicting physical pain and absolute fear on another person is a good way of teaching a person. I'm not sure how hitting an adult is wrong, but hitting a child is justified. Leaving a mark on a child??? Uh. No. That is abuse IMO.
I have never had to hit for punishment. My daughter has never been so out of control or "bad" that I felt the need to take my hand (or an object) and inflict physical pain on her. So many other ways of disciplining her that works.
With that said....there is not enough to this story. But as it is currently presented, I do not believe punishment for the mother is deserved. I do not support this type of discipline at all....but I am not the parents to other kids...and to each their own I suppose....edit on June 17th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)