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Is NATO Dumping Radiation On Libyan Civilians?

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posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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After the 2 gulf wars & the after effects of depleted uranium on the civilian population of southern Iraq, will this only all happen again in Libya.

english.pravda.ru...


NATO airstrikes against Libya have already surpassed 8,000.

NATO launched nearly 3,200 attacks with depleted uranium bombs against civilians in Libya. This is the denunciation of the special envoy of Telesur, Rolando Segura. The total number of air strikes launched by the Atlantic Alliance against Libya is over 8,400 already. Almost 40% of these involved use of depleted uranium munitions, revealed the South American television journalist in his Twitter profile.

In Iraq, for example, the imperialist aggressors abundantly used projectiles containing debris resulting from the enrichment of the ore. Depleted uranium is highly valued by the military, since it is almost two times denser than lead and the perforation capacity is increased.

Besides the direct consequences of the imperialist bombings in Libya, it is necessary to take into account that depleted uranium is a radioactive substance that causes serious injuries in the renal and digestive tract, cancer in the lungs and bones and neuro-degenerative or congenital malformation in human beings.

The explosion of a DU munition reaches ten thousand degrees centigrade and releases highly toxic dust and contaminants that can travel thousands of miles. The dissipation of these particles may last for millions of years, so its effects on the environment and the inhabitants of the areas affected are perpetuated for generations.

Meanwhile, the attacks on Tripoli intensify on the entire urban area of ​​the capital. According to data gathered by the reporter from Telesur, since only last Saturday, the imperialist air force carried out 54 bombings in five cities. At least 19 people died and over 130 were injured in a series of attacks carried out in the last few days.

The continuation of the offensive takes place even as the African Union reiterates its call for the establishment of a ceasefire in the territory. The Libyan government is supporting the call and insists that the United Nations, that supposedly promotes dialogue, silence the guns. The government led by Muammar Qaddafi continued to release dozens of rebel prisoners in a process mediated by tribal chiefs of the North African country.

At the end of last week, Barack Obama and Nicolas Sarkozy, Presidents of the United States and France, respectively, have insisted that they share "the same analysis that Gaddafi should relinquish power," and to this end, NATO must "finish the job" there.

Libyan sovereign funds

"It is impossible to know whether there was an economic intent in the operation against Gaddafi. What is undeniable is that his fall would give great way to Western banks. It would be the perfect embezzlement," said one U.S. specialist heard by the Lusa news agency.

The Lusa news agency asked for the opinion of several experts to review the flow of capital and money-laundering and investigated what would happen to the sovereign funds of Libya if the head of government was overthrown.

The conclusion is that the consequences would be the disappearance of sums belonging to the Libyan people, since "Gaddafi could no longer under practical conditions and policies recover the funds and reverse the process of investment in the West."

A financial operator directly linked to transactions involving the Libyan Investment Authority (LIA, its acronym in English), affirmed to the agency "regarding the diverted [financial] products, of great complexity, the situation is that not even the source of the investment knows exactly what was done with their capital."

According to Lusa, quoting an expert on sanctions, under the respective financial transactions, "They can go after the money until eternity. Not only the international authorities, but also, of course, the owner of the money."

"If the owner of the money disappears, the money remains unclaimed, so to speak, because in the source there was an investment that politically was made in secret. That is the situation Gaddafi is under," summarized the source.


This may have been on a Rusiian-English page but it was translated from an original Portugese source - Journal Avante

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posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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No no no!, do you not watch the news?
NATO is protecting civilians. If you can show me one civilian that doesn't want to be protected with depleted uranium, I'll show you an ungrateful domestic terrorist.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Sounds like Libya must be a whole nation of ungrateful domestic terrorists.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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This is obviously a propaganda article. I am not going to argue the dangers of depleted uranium. Those dangers are well established. What i will argue is the story headline of nato striking innocent civilians. NATO is so pollotically correct they would avoid civilian casualties at the cost of waxing quadafi himself. Quadafi is a looney madman and has sponsored and funded terrorism for decades. Ragan should have blasted him straight to hell. Also the story hints that the "imperialists" are after all libyans money....come on give me a break. Everybody knows they just want oil and natural resources. This article is strictly propaganda from some leftist group.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Yes, you're probably right, it may be some"lefty" propaganda but it does provide a nice counter balance to all "righty" propaganda we're constantly being fed. I also admire the clear distinction you've drawn between oil and money, everyone knows oil and money have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with each other.
Just what was Ghadaffi thinking, attempting to keep law and order in his country, what a silly man.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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This is obviously a propaganda article. I am not going to argue the dangers of depleted uranium. Those dangers are well established. What i will argue is the story headline of nato striking innocent civilians. NATO is so pollotically correct they would avoid civilian casualties at the cost of waxing quadafi himself. Quadafi is a looney madman and has sponsored and funded terrorism for decades. Ragan should have blasted him straight to hell. Also the story hints that the "imperialists" are after all libyans money....come on give me a break. Everybody knows they just want oil and natural resources. This article is strictly propaganda from some leftist group.


If they are after Libya's oil & resources, & Libya makes money from said oil & resources, isn't that being after Libya's money.

I also find it unusual that people are arrogant enough to label something as propaganda if it isn't from a western controlled/censored media source.

The article wasn't from a Russian source it was translated from a Portugese source.
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posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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Other than the 30mm cannon shells fired by the A-10 and the 20mm cannon shells used by the Phalanx anti-missile system, DU isn't used in any NATO weapons. I'll call this article "hay after it has been through a horse's digestive tact".



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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NATO do use DU,which I think is worse than they let on.
Any intervention since Bosnia has used DU.
They test fire DU munitions in Scotland,Parts of The USA,Germany etc.all over the place.
Its bad stuff,but a few cancer clusters won't slow down the mighty mega corp of the military industrial complex.

If any bad guys used DU it would be a "dirty bomb."
Which it is really,a dirty bomb or bullet.
But its OK coz its us the west who do it.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Name one weapon system in use by NATO that used DU.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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I'm not saying you're wrong but others are
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posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by JIMC5499
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Name one weapon system in use by NATO that used DU.



Maybe the 30mm rounds for the Apache helicopters,Do NATO have A-10s as well?They use DU rounds I thought.
I could be wrong-I just assumed that's what they use these days for maximum punch.

They use that in Afghanistan,why not in Libya?



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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its sad to poison an area just for a little more penetration. why not use tungsten carbide? its almost as hard as a diamond. i know it is used for some tips, but why even use depleted uranium, considering the cost?

oh yeah, its not our country. who cares. /sarcasm



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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You shouldn't be so sure about such an organization being POLITICALLY CORRECT. There isn't really something politically correct considering ambitions in a political manner always lead to corruption at the end. IMO NATO ain't no exception. The truth will be unveil regarding this event has it always had. We only need time and we will se what were the motivations between the action.



posted on Jun, 18 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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They do use Tungsten. They switched to it right after the First Gulf War. That is why I am saying this article is manure.
There are some 30mm and 20mm DU rounds left, but they are not being used.



posted on Jun, 18 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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When did they stop using DU rounds?
This was not made public I think.

What was the reason they were stopped?

Sorry for the questions just interested to learn what you think about the situ.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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They stopped using DU in the A-10's 30mm right after Desert Storm. I don't believe that it was ever used in the Apache's cannon, because it had a lower muzzle velocity than the A-10's and DU wasn't effective. The problem with DU was never radiation, it was Uranium Oxide. Whe the A-10's cannon hit a tank's armour it would ignite, resulting in Uranium Oxide dust. UO is a heavy metal, like Lead and Cadmium and can cause major health issues.







 
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