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Another Charming Aspect of the ObamaCare Minefield

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posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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gee after a google search of all of 2 seconds

links are abound on the thread topic.

www.mysanantonio.com...

www.firstthings.com...

edbrophy.com...




posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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While I don't necessarily disagree with you, it makes it very difficult to take people seriously when they use communism, socialism, and Marxism interchangeably. They're different things. There are some commonalities, yes, but they are different things.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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thats nothing new on this site people are so wrapped up with their heads in text book definftions they dont even bother to see what the real life examples are.

it is a fact they borrow ideals and practices from each other and like i said different shades of the same thing.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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My favorite meme surfaced shortly after Obama was elected....I saw hundreds, if not thousands, of posts on internet forums and comment sections on news sites that were something to the effect of "Obama is a socialist/fascist." ...not one or the other....but both at the same time. What are they teaching in schools these days, exactly?
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posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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well fascism borrows from all of the above its ideology with a means to and end.

the fascists inflitrated the socialists an used them for a means to an end moderate voices get stamped out.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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No, it IS false. Do you understand how capital gains taxes work? Secondly, there already existed several substantial loopholes for this kind of thing in the tax code anyway, so only a very small percentage of people would have to pay this tax in the first place, and only people that are making huge gains on home sales. That's not too many people these days. Yes, the thresholds were lowered, but that's not the point of this thread.....the OP stated that there was a straight-up 3.8% tax on home sales. There isn't. It's a right-wing fallacy. Move on. You're wrong.

You need to post some unbiased, credible links before you continue this.


Stomp your foot and shout NO! all you want, Rumplestiltskin, facts are facts. Your messiah is a liar and a crook.

Oh, and google is your friend.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
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well fascism borrows from all of the above its ideology with a means to and end.

the fascists inflitrated the socialists an used them for a means to an end moderate voices get stamped out.





Well, yes and no, but Fascism, at its core, is decidedly anti-communist and anti-socialist....in terms of a 'pure' ideology, they're opposite ends of the spectrum. Now, just as with any system, the 'on the ground' reality can look much different.... but I'm not sure I'd call some kind of blending (as we sometimes see now) either socialism or fascism....just as I wouldn't call green either red or blue.
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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by mishigas
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No, it IS false. Do you understand how capital gains taxes work? Secondly, there already existed several substantial loopholes for this kind of thing in the tax code anyway, so only a very small percentage of people would have to pay this tax in the first place, and only people that are making huge gains on home sales. That's not too many people these days. Yes, the thresholds were lowered, but that's not the point of this thread.....the OP stated that there was a straight-up 3.8% tax on home sales. There isn't. It's a right-wing fallacy. Move on. You're wrong.

You need to post some unbiased, credible links before you continue this.


Stomp your foot and shout NO! all you want, Rumplestiltskin, facts are facts. Your messiah is a liar and a crook.

Oh, and google is your friend.


This should be pretty easy for you to prove. Provide text from the bill that shows it.

When you're in a hole, quit digging.



posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by samcrow

Originally posted by 46ACEI understand"socialism" just fine thank you;and have traveled and seen firsthand the results of "communism".


Socialism and communism aren't the same things.


No: but to accept the philosophies of one is at the very least a "baby" step on the road to the other. I draw a line: the (so called) "progress" stops before it gets all the way to "socialism,.and finally breeds communism.
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