Childhood diseases return as parents refuse vaccines, page 2

reply to post by Revolution9

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That brings a thought to my mind.

Avoiding a natural method of culling. How many pushing to for vaccination (assuming they are as effective as we are led to believe) also share the notion that the world is over populated?

Which is natures way, influenza or government mandated child bearing limitations?

Vaccines are literally one of the modern wonders of the world. Do vaccines kill people … yes, from time to time, a vaccine will cause a massive allergic reaction .. I believe the incidence is 1 in 100,000 or something in that order of magnitude. But childhood diseases used to kill 1 in 10. Polio, small pox, measles, mumps, diphtheria, tuberculosis used to kill millions annually before widespread vaccinations were made available and now you rarely hear of these, except in those cases where vaccines were not administered or the vector was an unvaccinated person.

Ever see a kid with whooping cough?



Not Pretty.

I think it’s a remarkable sign of societal retardation that such a large body of people would voluntarily refuse to vaccinate themselves or their children.

reply to post by monkofmimir

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My friends aunt had cancer.. She was very religious and after 6 months of praying she went back to her doctor and it was gone I wouldn't count out faith

Originally posted by digginforthetruth
My child was 2 1\2 yrs old when he got whooping cough, about a year and a half AFTER he got the vaccine? What happened there . If the bulk of the kids get the measle vaccine and the one kid that doesn't gets measles, then why would it put the other kids at risk?

Its called Herd Immunity.

reply to post by SirMike

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I'm pretty sure everyone who is antivaxx feels that way strictly to the new vaccines

Originally posted by mb2591
reply to post by Griffo

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Well if you want a source so bad you can go find it. I don't care. I trust my doctor.

Originally posted by SirMike

Originally posted by digginforthetruth
My child was 2 12 yrs old when he got whooping cough, about a year and a half AFTER he got the vaccine? What happened there . If the bulk of the kids get the measle vaccine and the one kid that doesn't gets measles, then why would it put the other kids at risk?

Its called Herd Immunity.

Did you even read that definition that doesn't sound like what s/he is describing

reply to post by mb2591

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Yeah. If anything it sounds like "herd immunity" supports the notion that an unvaccinated individual here or there is no harm at all to the "herd."

Herd immunity theory proposes that, in contagious diseases that are transmitted from individual to individual, chains of infection are likely to be disrupted when large numbers of a population are immune or less susceptible to the disease. The greater the proportion of individuals who are resistant, the smaller the probability that a susceptible individual will come into contact with an infectious individual.[2]

If the bulk of kids had the vaccine and the one kid who didnt have it did not] get sick that would be indicative of herd immunity.

Unless I'm reading something wrong in the definition or the post it was directed at.

reply to post by SirMike

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I assume your implying that I go to a doctor that isn't qualified?


reply to post by thisguyrighthere

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That's exactly what I got out of it lol

reply to post by Revolution9

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Illnesses such as those you have just stated, IMO, are natural.

So are a lot of diseases. Do you suppose we should just avoid going the dentist when we get tooth decay?

It is my sincere belief that that these illnesses are necessary as part of the development of a child's immune system.

The immune system doesn't really work that way

It is my very sincere belief that some vaccinations are destroying our health and our immune systems.

Which ones? I agree maybe the seasonal flu vaccine is a little over the top unless you are a pensioner.

I had illnesses when a child, measles, etc. I am glad I was able to go through that experience.

Oh yes, I'm sure fever, vomiting and rashes all over your body was a great experience

Many many children have had bad reactions to vaccines. Vaccines have killed. Vaccines have affected pregnant women so when their children are born they have disabilities.

Yes, they probably have. But not getting vaccinated has produced a far greater number of problems.

Do you know what is in the needles? Does the Doctor? Does the nurse? Do they scientists truely know what is in that needle and what consequences it might have?

Common Ingredients in U.S. Licensed Vaccines

I can understand that you might be scared or worried about the contents of vaccines, but a widespread vaccination is a good thing; it provides protection to others unable to be vaccinated:

Babies too young to be vaccinated and people with compromised immune systems, such as those with cancer, are especially vulnerable. They rely on others around them to keep the virus out of circulation, a phenomenon known as "herd immunity," which protects even those who can't be vaccinated, she says.

reply to post by mb2591

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If you are going to a doctor who is telling you not to get vaccinated and not to have your children vaccinated, then yes.

reply to post by Griffo

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The information is to biased to say that vaccines are the only way to protect your children. For one, the child who was sick was living in a homeless shelter. I would say that isnt exactly the cleanest place around.

Another note, vaccines will either kill you or damage you for life, and the vaccine success rate and all the other things that go with it are questionable. Do you know that the HPV vaccine actually didnt protect you from HPV? How can you trust any vaccine if there is garbage like that out there?

You should know, the only way to build up your immune system is to get the mumps, measles, chicken pox etc. And these children who are not being vaccinated, what other things are they not doing? Did the children all be breastfed by their mothers for the first 6 months? Does the family use organic foods and avoid toxic laden fast foods, commercial grocery markets and GMO foods?

Frankly this story doesnt prove that vaccines are the answer. Maybe people get sick cause, we are living in a dangerous environment? Breathing toxic air filled with chemicals for who knows thats floating around from Chemtrails, Car exhaust, paints, plastics, fumehoods and others. The problem I see is that people are too easy to jump on the bandwagon as soon as they see cases of people not being vaccinated getting sick, so Hurry and get vaccinated and you'll be ok. Where is the studies that link the childhood vaccines to SIDS? Or the childhood vaccines that cause defects, or immune disorders, or brain damage, DNA damage and on and on.

Your better off to eat healthy, work and get sunshine, let those children play in the dirt, stay away from plastic toys, feed them real milk from mother, not some bottle milk that goes in the microwave so the plastic can leech into the milk, and let the children grow up with some natural defenses and not some vaccine that has not in my eyes seen to help at all.

Watch this video about vaccines and check out any site that reports vaccines are more deadly than beneficial.

www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com...

Google Video Link

reply to post by SirMike

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Or maybe I'm going to a doctor who actually gives a # and does his research and doesn't need the income that vaccinations provide

reply to post by Griffo

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There is no evidence vaccines work and ample evidence they cause harm and even kill people. The OP is rhetoric with no substance. Some cases of measles show up and the leap is made that it must be due to refusal to poison/vaccinate your children.. Sigh! And of course 154 cases wow what an epidemic. So tell us were these cases vaccinated before the contracted measles? Because I would bet dollars to doughnuts most were.

Vaccines are the pop culture of the medical establishment most believe they are great saviours of man kind but there is no evidence to support it. It speaks to the power of media and propaganda. And to those who say people who don't vaccinate are endangering others I say BS!!! If you have so much faith in vaccination why are you worried about those who don't since you are supposedly immune?

Vaccines are claimed to have eradicated things like polio and small pox etc. The interesting thing is during that period those diseases were declining before the advent of vaccines and declined in non vaccinated countries at the same or greater rates then vaccinated countries. Data going back to the beginning of vaccination indicates there is no evidence that vaccines work period but in fact vaccines were often the cause of the disease they claimed to protect against.

As I said vaccines are the pop culture of modern medicine they have been accepted as valid with no scientific evidence to back them up.

A few links to consider.

www.heilkunst.com...

www.vernoncoleman.com...

www.naturalnews.com...

We vaccinated our children when we didn’t know any better but I would never recommend vaccines to anyone and in fact I would try to talk them out of it,. It is poison and the drug companies make billions peddling it with the vaccine protection myth and politicians have been threatening to make vaccines mandatory as the evidence becomes more available that they are not only worthless but dangerous. That’s what politicians do they ensure markets for the politically connected for otherwise worthless and dangerous products that few would buy without being forced or deceived into believing they were good for them or thier children.

reply to post by mb2591

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Has he ever diagnosed you with bonus eruptus or had a patient names Mr McCraig?

reply to post by SirMike

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Oh yea I got that 3 times last year you mean to tell that wasnt real?

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