Originally posted by dubiousone
Originally posted by Xiamara
I believe in vaccines I was vaccinated and my children will be too. I would rather take the small percent risk of complications, like what my children
are allergic to and if that vaccine contains that. I Cannot get any vaccines that have any silver (I forget which major vaccine it is I believe Hep A?
has a silver compound in it). I also know I have a fish allergy, citrus allergy and allergy to certain antihistamines (Ironic I know). People who
talk to their doctors or have any good doctor would know that.
As for the mercury issue you get more mercury in fish than in a vaccine. So I opt out on the fish and go for the mercury in vaccines, but that's
because I'm allergic to fish.
The fish aren't injected directly into your blood stream!!!!
Neither are vaccines. If you recall, usually those are dumped into your shoulder or your buttocks...so they are injected into fat and muscle.
Reading through this runaway train of a thread...well...you do what you want, ok? Just keep your unvaccinated child away from mine so that if the
bugs they catch use your child to create a slight mutation, I won't have to worry about it.
Those of you that talk about being 'fine' when you've not been vaccinated...I'm willing to bet your parents were - especially your mother. If you
were breast-fed, then guess what...she vaccinated you for a lot of stuff right there. Poured it right down your unsuspecting mouth.
Part of childhood illness can be attributed to so many women who flat out refuse to breast feed for selfish reasons such as they are afraid of what it
will do to their boobs. Babies receive a lot of their immunities from their mothers when breastfeeding, so mothers that don't are putting their
child at risk.
Also, reading through this 'discussion' I see a ton of you blaming genetic defects on vaccines. Autism is a crock of horse*# that Jenny McCarthy
started spewing when her kid came down with it. It's a disorder that just happens to appear around the same age that kids get a certain vaccine...so
therefore it must be the cause right? No.
For the person that mentioned their youngest child being autistic, I do feel sympathy...but you also stated that you have other family members who are
autistic...guess what, that means it runs in your family.
Now, I'm not speaking from some random ledge here. I'm an veteran SGT with the US Army. I've been vaccinated for probably 10x the amount of
things the rest of you have. (though I refuse to get flu shots lol) Yet I still have an IQ of about 160 (So my MMR and such when I was little, nor
the dozens of other shots I've had from the Army did not damage my brain), work a good job with a great company, and have 3 very healthy and happy
children (all vaccinated).
As I said at the start - If you don't want to get vaccinated, that's fine and that's your choice. I think you're being silly and just looking for
someone to blame for the problems in your life, but whatever. The wonderful thing about humans is we are all different. Things affect us differently
and you might not even have much to worry about as the rest of us who do vaccinate are protecting you for the most part. That doesn't mean you get
to endanger my children, however. After spending years to protect this country, I damn well refuse to let someone use those rights I protected to
hurt my children because of their deluded paranoia. That's MY right and you will respect it the same as I respect yours. I can try to explain to
you the dangers, but since so many of you obviously don't want to listen, that's rather futile.
All of this fear-mongering that so many of you subscribe to has to have a limit. Everything is -not- out to get you and in fact -most- really don't
give two nickles what happens to you period. There are true conspiracies out there, but with ridiculous threads like this...it's no wonder some of
the better debaters from ATS are never around any longer. The OP had a good point, but it's quickly spiraled into the masses of the delusional and
easily convinced. People would much rather believe the potential negative side of things than the positive reality.
One of the things that people don't realize about statistics of this nature...when they try to call up examples and such, is that people are
more-likely to speak up when they had a problem, not when everything was fine. That is why I am speaking up as an example many of you would be hard
to beat. I've had practically every vaccine currently in circulation, some multiple times (though I opted out on the Anthrax one). Uncle Sam likes
us healthy in the Army. I'd love to see some of you truly go to fight for your rights and what your NCOIC/DI says when you try to refuse to let the
medics vaccinate you.
Our health, as a society, has indeed improved a lot due to our living conditions and so forth, but vaccinations are part of that advancement. They
aren't 'cures', they are preventative measures - meaning they lessen the likelihood, as well as the potential severity of the illness should you
happen to catch it. They help to train and prepare your immune system for fighting off certain illnesses. But our immune systems are just like
us...they are all different. Mine, is great...if I'm sick it's almost never longer than a day, but that doesn't mean anything in regards to anyone
other than myself and maybe my family.
So, again, do whatever you like, but don't be surprised if your choice causes you difficulties, and don't try to argue against it. If your child
catches a deadly disease and they realize you didn't vaccinate and your child dies, well...you will run the risk of getting slapped with homicidal
neglect. If any other children catch it...well, then the charges will multiply as the bodies do. Now, the probability of that happening are
extremely low because of the whole herd thing discussed earlier in the thread combined with inherited immunites.
This kind of thread is one of the things that's going to just drive people away from here with legit issues and topics. Idiotic fear-mongering with
Elenin, etc, is above and beyond and a lot of this stuff is starting to look more like a site for people who cower in the corners afraid the mouse
that ran across their floor is secretly plotting to take over the world...starting by hollowing out their brain to drive them like a
people-mobile...and then realize it's too late.