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Originally posted by Finalized
So, for everyone on this thread that isn't a medical doctor telling me to get vaccinations, if something happens to my child because of said vaccine, I'm going to sue you for practicing medicine without a license.
Do the research, and then make up your own mind.
Originally posted by ToFarGone
Originally posted by mb2591
reply to post by Griffo
Source not needed it came from my doctor think he'd make that up?
You're kidding right? You should be a little more critical in your judgment good sir or madam.
Yes, he's a doctor, so he may sound like he knows what he/she is talking about, but you have to remember people exaggerate, and others flat out lie, sometimes to push an agenda, for example, keeping you sick.
Originally posted by filosophia
Vaccines are so good I take like a dozen of them a day. Can't get enough of those vaccines. I sure hope they put them in our water supply soon.
Originally posted by Griffo
reply to post by hawkiye
There is plenty of evidence to suggest that vaccines work, you just chose to dismiss it. For what reason, I don't really know. The disease rates may have been declining, but they would not have been eradicated without vaccines. Diseases come and go, look at influenza for example. We get seasonal flu every year, but then every few decades or so years we get a pandemic.
I don't even have to click on the links you provided to know that they are very biased. Come on, you really expect me to respect your post when you link naturalnews.com?
It's not thimerasol. It's thimerosal. And what's in Thimerosal?
Originally posted by HappyBunny
Regarding the mercury content, first of all, it's not mercury. It's thimerasol.
So it doesn't make you sound like you understand it when you say "it's not mercury. It's thimerasol." If it's got Thimerosal, it's got mercury.
Thimerosal is approximately 50% mercury (Hg) by weight.
It seems like you're pretending to know more than the FDA, they only state that it's eliminated more quickly, they don't claim that it doesn't accumulate at all like you seem to be claiming:
Also, there's a difference between organic and inorganic mercury. Inorganic mercury isn't bioaccumulative, which means it doesn't build up in the blood, bones, or tissues. That is what's in thimerasol.
PS--I don't mean to come off so harshly, but this is one subject that really gets my hackles up.
If they had a sufficient profile for ethyl mercury, why are they using methylmercury toxicological profiles and pointing out the uncertainty associated with this practice?
Thimerosal Toxicity
The various mercury guidelines are based on epidemiological and laboratory studies of methyl mercury, whereas thimerosal is a derivative of ethyl mercury. Because they are different chemical entities - ethyl- versus methylmercury - different toxicological profiles are expected. There is, therefore, an uncertainty that arises in applying the methylmercury-based guidelines to thimerosal. Lacking definitive data on the comparative toxicities of ethyl- versus methylmercury, FDA considered ethyl- and methyl-mercury as equivalent in its risk evaluation.
Well, if the FDA is "urging vaccine manufacturers to reduce or eliminate thimerosal in vaccines as soon as possible", maybe it's just a precaution, but I'm inclined to follow the same precaution. I already said that I've never seen any link between Thimerosal and problems proven, but if the FDA is being cautious, so am I. See my point?
As part of the FDAMA review, the FDA evaluated the amount of mercury an infant might receive in the form of ethylmercury from vaccines under the U.S. recommended childhood immunization schedule and compared these levels with existing guidelines for exposure to methylmercury, as there are no existing guidelines for ethylmercury, the metabolite of thimerosal. At the time of this review in 1999, the maximum cumulative exposure to mercury from vaccines in the recommended childhood immunization schedule was within acceptable limits for the methylmercury exposure guidelines set by FDA, ATSDR, and WHO. However, depending on the vaccine formulations used and the weight of the infant, some infants could have been exposed to cumulative levels of mercury during the first six months of life that exceeded EPA recommended guidelines for safe intake of methylmercury.
As a precautionary measure, the Public Health Service (including the FDA, National Institutes of Health (NIH), Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) and the American Academy of Pediatrics issued two Joint Statements, urging vaccine manufacturers to reduce or eliminate thimerosal in vaccines as soon as possible (CDC 1999) and (CDC 2000).
Originally posted by stayuplate
listen, the parent should have complete say over their child in vaccine instances. The government has no say what so ever in forcing children to be vaccinated. Sure parents should want the best for their children, but that doesnt mean vaccination.
And to the writer of this post, If your vaccinated why do you care? You and your children are safe right?!?!?!?!!?
Originally posted by Blaine91555
Ask yourself; Self, why is it that every generation we live longer and are healthier if the medical industry is trying to kill us?
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Griffo
. I got the swine flu without a vaccine. Wasn't so bad. Next year around when it came back I never got it. I think my body is better at vaccinations than they are.
Originally posted by bacci0909
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Griffo
. I got the swine flu without a vaccine. Wasn't so bad. Next year around when it came back I never got it. I think my body is better at vaccinations than they are.
My 87-year old Grandma got swine flu and was completely fine too
Originally posted by Griffo
reply to post by mb2591
Yeah about that. Yes, Bill Gates famously said through vaccines he could reduce birth rates. But not through eugenics or sterilisation.
Families in Africa and other third world areas are notorious for having many, many children in the hope that at least a few will survive into adulthood and will be able to provide for their family. Whereas people in the developed world have few children because they are pretty certain that all of the will survive into adulthood.
With the introduction of vaccines into poorer countries, the birth rate can be lowered, as their is a higher chance of individual children surviving into adulthood
Prove to me that the immune system doesn't work that way? I await your reply. I think it does work that way, I am so sure of it I refuse ever to be vaccinated against anything!
Are you calling me a liar? I repeat: I AM GLAD I HAD MEASLES and was not vaccinated. I remember it well. My Grandma kept me in the dark and nursed me through it.
HIV was first introduced to Africa through the Hep B vaccination (clear the land and you're free to grab the resources)