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Montana fugitive part of new anti-government strain, officials say

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posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Montana fugitive part of new anti-government strain, officials say


www.mtstandard.com

In recent decades, the remote region has proven fertile ground for extremist groups including the Militia of Montana, the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations and many others.

A former Marine who has been diagnosed as mentally ill, Burgert is the latest in a growing number of anti-government activists who have engaged in shootouts with law officers around the country, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which studies extremist groups.

"Basically, law enforcement, especially the feds, are seen as agents of an evil conspiracy run by the government,'" said Mark Potok of the Montgomery, Ala
(visit the link for the full news article)



Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
Manhunt under way west of Lolo for ex-militia leader




posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Well as I predicted in my first thread about this man, the mainstream media is going full force to label activists and Anti-Gov. protesters as extremists and terrorists.


there is not a growing number of home grown terrorists. there is a growing majority of America who are hungry and living in poverty, and a Gov who is only making things worse.

The Militia Of Montana is NOT an extremist group and have never EVER been thought of as one or done anything to prove they are Anti Gov. in Fact they are exactly the opposite and as PRO America As one can be.
www.militiaofmontana.com...

likewise there are no neo Nazi Groups here.
Surprisingly they seem so focused on the homegrown terrorist issue they forget to mention Ted Kazinsky the Unibomber who lived here in MT and sent his mailbombs from.
the MSM just tried to make news wtih the Gov. sale of his property recently.



Deputies thought their manhunt was reaching a climax on Wednesday when they received a tip about a man living at a remote forest camp west of Lolo that was tied to Burgert. Undersheriff Mike Dominick said the man there was not Burgert and had no ties to him.


with the MSM pushing this new Form of FEAR to americans they are using this as an excuse to go invade private citizens homes who happen to live off grid and secluded.

its the new Hollywood Blacklist of communist supporters..
now your an "anti gov, militia member, extremest, terrorist. and you can bet they have a large black hard drive acting as their list.

Next we will see a Terror squad similar to the communist Red Squads



Burgert was diagnosed with paranoid personality disorder before his sentencing in the militia case. Burgert disputed that diagnosis after his conviction.


with all the personality disorders that most Everyone is being diagnosed with and medicated for, our world is turning into a very scary Equilibrium of ignorance. and we all know what ignorance =


www.mtstandard.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Get ready for more and more people to be labled as "anti-goverment" and calling people KKK. Its going to happen more and more now that the SHFT is getting closer



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by -W1LL

Surprisingly they seem so focused on the homegrown terrorist issue they forget to mention Ted Kazinsky the Unibomber who lived here in MT and sent his mailbombs from.
the MSM just tried to make news wtih the Gov. sale of his property recently.


As he was a product of government experimentation I don't think they want to give people any reason to side with the militia. (mkultra program)



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss
Get ready for more and more people to be labled as "anti-goverment" and calling people KKK. Its going to happen more and more now that the SHFT is getting closer



Originally posted by j35us

As he was a product of government experimentation I don't think they want to give people any reason to side with the militia. (mkultra program)


No doubt I am fearing the same. only thing i think we can do is educate people on what an American Organized Militia really is. and where why and how the militias were created.

American militia



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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The search parties ended up busting another guy in the area. He was in a well camouflaged cabin they say. (Probably a house with a thick forest canopy)

When the broadcaster the said, "So, a dry hole huh?"

The spokesman said “Oh no, He's in custody." but didn't elaborate. I wonder what they busted him on?

I'm getting more intrigued by this story.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by -W1LL

Originally posted by camaro68ss
Get ready for more and more people to be labled as "anti-goverment" and calling people KKK. Its going to happen more and more now that the SHFT is getting closer



Originally posted by j35us

As he was a product of government experimentation I don't think they want to give people any reason to side with the militia. (mkultra program)


No doubt I am fearing the same. only thing i think we can do is educate people on what an American Organized Militia really is. and where why and how the militias were created.

American militia




People are just so brain washed by the Federal goverment its sad, we are losing america



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by -W1LL

A former Marine who has been diagnosed as mentally ill, Burgert is the latest in a growing number of anti-government activists who have engaged in shootouts with law officers around the country

Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
Manhunt under way west of Lolo for ex-militia leader



Am I missing something?
What seems to be the problem?
Sounds like a Patriot to me who is actually fighting for our freedoms and not PRETENDING to fight for our freedoms like the ignorant misled soldiers overseas whos hearts might be in the right place but.....they're making things much much worse.

You are going to see more and more of this and NOW NOW NOW is the time to decide how you are going to view and interpret these types of behaviors.
The media wants you to view this guy as a crackpot who snapped.
I don't.
I have a mind of my own thank you very much.
I view him as what he is,
A Patriot.

Does that mean that I am going to go off and have a shoot out with the pigs?
Not necessarily.
Before you condemn me, what about you?
Are you willing to get on here and insist that you would NEVER get into a shootout with the pigs???

You better pray you never get confronted with that situation!
I know I do.
edit on 16-6-2011 by Screwed because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 12:16 PM
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Idaho, Montana and the Dakotas are well known areas where “lone wolf” types supposedly go to hide out. I would venture any mountainous/ large forested area is where that type would go depending upon the individual’s location.

If I was one of the alphabet agencies looking for domestic terrorists, I would be scouring the web, looking for key words concerning locations and then start a false flag op stating a known criminal is in the area and launching a search operation.

It would be a great way, to ID possible rally points, caches and possibly take into custody others that you deem a future threat.

Be careful who you talk to.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Screwed

Originally posted by -W1LL

A former Marine who has been diagnosed as mentally ill, Burgert is the latest in a growing number of anti-government activists who have engaged in shootouts with law officers around the country

Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
Manhunt under way west of Lolo for ex-militia leader



Am I missing something?
What seems to be the problem?
Sounds like a Patriot to me who is actually fighting for our freedoms and not PRETENDING to fight for our freedoms like the ignorant misled soldiers overseas whos hearts might be in the right place but.....they're making things much much worse.

You are going to see more and more of this and NOW NOW NOW is the time to decide how you are going to view and interpret these types of behaviors.
The media wants you to view this guy as a crackpot who snapped.
I don't.
I have a mind of my own thank you very much.
I view him as what he is,
A Patriot.

Does that mean that I am going to go off and have a shoot out with the pigs?
Not necessarily.
Before you condemn me, what about you?
Are you willing to get on here and insist that you would NEVER get into a shootout with the pigs???

You better pray you never get confronted with that situation!
I know I do.
edit on 16-6-2011 by Screwed because: (no reason given)


I think people here can pretty much think for themselves, thank you.

Sometimes we agree nut often not so much.

I've noticed that you often refer to LEO's as "pigs". What are you, a reject from the 60's? (That's a joke by the way)

Calm down man. Stop being so emotional. Start thinking rationally and critically. It has been proven to work.

Just be careful. What you post, will always be there for prosperity.

edit on 16-6-2011 by TDawgRex because: (no reason given)

edit on 16-6-2011 by TDawgRex because: (no reason given)


Off topic, Whats up with the fonts?
edit on 16-6-2011 by TDawgRex because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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Not sure how the fonts happened.

I am not suggesting that I am going on a killing spree and takin some coppers with me. (coppers is from the 20's)lol,
What I AM saying is, Why do we have to automatically lump this guy in with all of the worst of the worst of extremist groups without even questioning whether or not he may have been justified.

I'll tell you why!
Because in this country,whether you realize it or not, you are NEVER NEVER NEVER justified for shooting and killing a cop. NO matter what, no questions asked PERIOD!!!!

Think about it for just a minuite.
When is the last time you heard plastered all over the news, that a guy acted in self defense by KILLING a cop???
NEVER!!!!
and you NEVER will, and there is a VERY VERY good reason for it.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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I've seen it happen, but it has been quite awhile since. I think City halls squash stories like that.

Again, what is up with the font on this thread? All others I have posted to appear normal....another conspiracy perhaps?

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posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Here you have one guy that doesn't take any 5hit from the cops and has been turned into another news distraction....does it have to be a movement or, can it be he's just another Eric Rudolph?



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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S&F



"Basically, law enforcement, especially the feds, are seen as agents of an evil conspiracy run by the government,'" said Mark Potok of the Montgomery, Ala




this is considered being mentally ill but when confronted with all the dead children in iraq a voice of "reason" said "it was worth it".

it's called projection, OP and the psychopaths in washington and their agencies have a very bad case of it.

take schizophrenia for example the definition has been changed various times during the 20th century depending on who they wanted to lock up, whether suffragettes or negros in the civil rights movement of the 60's

Is Schizophrenia Really a Black Disease?

Who decides what "insane" means? This was the major question of Ken Kesey's countercultural classic "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," which illustrated how mental illness could be deployed by the establishment to crush the individual. But a recent book by University of Michigan psychiatry professor Jonathan Metzl suggests that Kesey's novel might not have been far from non-fiction. In "The Protest Psychosis: How Schizophrenia Became a Black Disease," Metzl documents the shifting interpretations of schizophrenia through the 20th century, tracing its evolution from a "white middle-class woman's disease" to an "African-American man's disease." Specifically, with the political upheaval of the civil rights movement, popular culture began to associate angry black men with schizophrenia, which in turn influenced the way doctors interpreted and diagnosed the illness.
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"In particularly the early 1920s, 1930s, 1940s when the idea of schizophrenia itself was first coming to the United States from Europe there was a general assumption that persons who suffered from schizophrenia were either shy or calm or they were geniuses," Metzl says. "It was often represented as an illness that afflicted white novelists or poets and as I say, these were very often in popular and psychiatric representation assumed to be white people." But during the massive societal upheavals in the middle of century, ideas of sanity and insanity took on new meaning. "All of a sudden in the 1960s, American culture, newspapers, magazines, movies start to represent angry African-American men as in part being inflicted with a new form of this particular illness," and this change in popular perception of the disease directly influenced the clinical definition of it, Metzl argues. "All of a sudden in 1968, the second version of the Diagnostic Manual comes out and there is new language that says 'aggression, hostility, projection.'" The image of a schizophrenic person was all of a sudden more violent and unstable than the schizophrenic of 20 years before.

The practical consequences of this popular-cum-clinical shift in perception was that in the 1960s far more African-American men were institutionalized in psychiatric wards with schizophrenia. "Some had committed crimes, some had participated in civil rights protests, some had been participants in urban riots at the time. They all passed through various forms of the penal system and ended up diagnosed with schizophrenia and locked in the psychiatric wards," says Metzl. But were these men really schizophrenic? Or were they victims of shifting clinical definitions of disease, one that was prone to metaphoric interpretation?



How Schizophrenia Became a "Black Disease"


yeah this lolo is crazy

crazy like a fox


when TCOTBIP and their agents the Brutals, don't have a legal leg to stand on,
they always go for the insanity plea.




"crazyly" yours

DerepentLEstranger




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