Tesla and his energy from the environment

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posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Duh Mr All is Radiation forgot mass.
Which even Einstein thought existed.


No, it's not just mass (after all, there is mass/energy equivalence), but simply different constituents of stuff around us -- quarks, leptons etc, and different fields as well. To equate ALL to EM field is like saying that all flowers are daisies. Quaint but stupid.


but alas the thermonuclear reaction just comes down to
particle interactions we just don't understand


We really do understand thermonuclear reactions extremely well. For that reason, our bombs work reliably well, as just one example.




posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Not so because mass is never converted to energy.
Thus we have thermonuclear energy but think we need mass and not the environment.
That's the well thought out cartel catch.

A mass of highly unstable massive atoms are pushed together into an environment
that generates Sun hot temperatures and what do you expect but in no way you
can say mass goes away if fried to a crisp as you say with your many particles.
Making mini suns from the environment only proves the Tesla theory and not Einstein.

Just so we know that not so great reactions are available without making a big blast
but makes energy from the environment.
ED:buddhasystem how about getting a healthier looking chick in your avatar an no
one that went through an atomic blast. Distasteful avatars in the thread might keep
off interested parties. How about some atoms and such in an avatar.
Just so everyone has a good Tesla environment.
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posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by buddhasystem
 


Not so because mass is never converted to energy.


Yes it is. E=mc2. When nuclei divide? for example, the sum of the mass of fragments is less than the parent nucleus.


A mass of highly unstable massive atoms are pushed together into an environment
that generates Sun hot temperatures


This description is 100% wrong.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
A mass of highly unstable massive atoms are pushed together into an environment
that generates Sun hot temperatures
This description is 100% wrong.
Well, the atoms are not unstable and they are not massive, so I agree with you, that much is completely wrong, but they are atoms, and it is hot, so you aren't going to give him a little credit for that?



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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everything that exists is a form of electromagnetic radiation, everything, from subatomic particles to your fingernail to the sun, its alllllllll electromagnetic radiation. just different parts of the spectrum is all.


You might get those ideas instilled from the cartel controlled education we all get
bombarded with every day. We have to lay are cards straight and fix their crooked lies.

Imaging making high government officials lie and follow orders or else.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
A mass of highly unstable massive atoms are pushed together into an environment
that generates Sun hot temperatures
This description is 100% wrong.
Well, the atoms are not unstable and they are not massive, so I agree with you, that much is completely wrong, but they are atoms, and it is hot, so you aren't going to give him a little credit for that?


Yes there was reference to your post.
You call Uranium stable even though its radio active.
In the environment which is un defined what the environment is is.
The environment defined by Tesla is an active environment causing the radio activity.
Its the cartel education that has forgotten 50x speed of light particles hit these atoms.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
A mass of highly unstable massive atoms are pushed together into an environment
that generates Sun hot temperatures
This description is 100% wrong.
Well, the atoms are not unstable and they are not massive, so I agree with you, that much is completely wrong, but they are atoms, and it is hot, so you aren't going to give him a little credit for that?


Yes there was reference to your post.
You call Uranium stable even though its radio active.
In the environment which is un defined what the environment is is.
The environment defined by Tesla is an active environment causing the radio activity.
Its the cartel education that has forgotten 50x speed of light particles hit these atoms.


Look, we need to call things they are commonly called in physics. In most of the Sun, atoms do not exist, there is only plasma. If you mean nuclei, say so. And, the nuclei in the Sun are mostly quite light, just look it up.
Helium (which takes its name from the Sun in Greek) is hardly a heavy element, don't you think?



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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You think hot as the Sun is inaccurate for the temperature of a thermonuclear blast.
Both make a lot of hot air.
The Sun and Uranium bombs.

Duh. Well if you were around when the cartels explained things as A bombs you would have
heard things get as hot as the Sun with out plasma or He. I suppose that was the 1940s and
1950s and even well read grade schoolers know that much history. You can't know much physics at all.

You are as mixed up are your avatar.
Not that interested in seeing your comments either.
The topic is environment makes both work hot or not.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by buddhasystem
 


You think hot as the Sun is inaccurate for the temperature of a thermonuclear blast.
Both make a lot of hot air.
The Sun and Uranium bombs.


There is no air on the Sun, last time I checked. You should try to elevate yourself above pre-K level of thinking about things physical. Be more precise.


Duh. Well if you were around when the cartels explained things as A bombs you would have
heard things get as hot as the Sun with out plasma or He. I suppose that was the 1940s and
1950s and even well read grade schoolers know that much history. You can't know much physics at all.


But I certainly can.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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You guys are way off target as far as Tesla is concerned.

First of all Nicola Tesla was an Electrical Engineer. Not a nuclear engineer. Nukes hadn't even been discovered yet.

His vision pertained to natural occurring electricity all around us and found naturally in the environment and specifically in the atmosphere.

For example:



Remember how Ben Franklin discovered electricity by flying a kite in a thunderstorm.

He didn't get electrocuted because he had a metal key on the string between him and the ground.

In the video.

This energy is being absorbed by the CN Tower and transmitted into the ground. And is completely Wasted.

Tesla was envisioning absorbing this energy and storing it in reactive circuits.

A single bolt of lighting contains approximately 30,000. Amperes of current and millions of volts of Electricity.

He would then transmit it through the ground using tuned resonant circuits.

The same principles used by another invention of his called the Radio. Which essentially transfer power from one source , the transmitter to the receiver once tuned to one another.

This energy always exists and could be harnessed and utilized to power our infrastructure.

But because it couldn't be metered, it was squashed by George Westinghouse and the Powers That Be.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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You guys are way off target as far as Tesla is concerned.

First of all Nicola Tesla was an Electrical Engineer. Not a nuclear engineer. Nukes hadn't even been discovered yet.

His vision pertained to natural occurring electricity all around us and found naturally in the environment and specifically in the atmosphere.

For example:



Remember how Ben Franklin discovered electricity by flying a kite in a thunderstorm.

He didn't get electrocuted because he had a metal key on the string between him and the ground.

In the video.

This energy is being absorbed by the CN Tower and transmitted into the ground. And is completely Wasted.

Tesla was envisioning absorbing this energy and storing it in reactive circuits.

A single bolt of lighting contains approximately 30,000. Amperes of current and millions of volts of Electricity.

He would then transmit it through the ground using tuned resonant circuits.

The same principles used by another invention of his called the Radio. Which essentially transfer power from one source , the transmitter to the receiver once tuned to one another.

This energy always exists and could be harnessed and utilized to power our infrastructure.

But because it couldn't be metered, it was squashed by George Westinghouse and the Powers That Be.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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There is no energy in lossless energy transmission.
That is what Tesla could do.
Pushing mass (air, atmosphere, ether in air and Earth mass) around will build up the
forces very fast as found in the special radio tuning Tesla used.
This would be different than just building up an oscillating circuit in the Tesla Tower.
That is all a special electrical engineering seemingly never duplicated.
Also there is the voltage buildup with electrical coils that experiments resulted in
disintegration of matter and making of fertilizer and ozone and Radium.
The making of Radium is nuclear science.
Done with K Capture from high voltage.
Radium is a source of ions and electricity as a current source in a method used
by some experimenters.
Radioactivity gives off thermal energy even in low levels used as hand warmers.
More activity gives a very hot bomb blast.
But why did Tesla mention 50x speed of light and energy from the environment.
That gives 2500 times the Einstein equation.
Gee that doesn't seem to matter at that level of heat.
Uranium and plutonium are heavy but He fusion will give off more heat.
So even small atoms capture energy from the environment.
On the small scale is the Lyne Mono Hydrogen recombination to the Hydrogen
gas giving off 1000x the calories used for the gas H2 separation into the environment.
Recombining from separation into the environment delivered the thermal energy.



posted on Jun, 25 2011 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Pushing mass (air, atmosphere, ether in air and Earth mass) around will build up the
forces very fast as found in the special radio tuning Tesla used.


Can you elaborate? Because I don't see an iota of information oar any sense at all in that sentence.



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Pushing mass (air, atmosphere, ether in air and Earth mass) around will build up the
forces very fast as found in the special radio tuning Tesla used.


Can you elaborate? Because I don't see an iota of information oar any sense at all in that sentence.


That refers to the Tesla radio operation.
The environment use in radio is very mechanical as electricity is an invisible force and
will naturally effect things we do not see.
Well we see the weather and we have all heard of weather control and that might be a part
of what Tesla said in his long list of things he might accomplish.
Including lighting the sky at night hence a specific environmental effect.
Those are different ways to use the environment but I found something about how things
change in science.


..in the late ‘40s, there were newspaper stories saying that the trans-Atlantic voyages of the Queen Mary could be powered by a hunk of radioactive material the size of a golf ball.

They told their exaggerated stories that way when they wanted us to get hooked and pay for it, but today’s “nuclear reactors” produce electricity at the same efficiency level as coal and gas-fired generators (38%), and we still have to deal with the inevitable problems of greater expense, entrenched, archaic, stagnant “nuclear” and fossil fuel technology, nuclear decay, waste, and probable devastation ala Cernobyl.


I'm sure that was the in the press in the early years but when the Navy built atomic powered
submarines the ion method was not use or a mono hydrogen method or any Tesla method
now speculated about.



See Conclusion



posted on Jun, 26 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Pushing mass (air, atmosphere, ether in air and Earth mass) around will build up the
forces very fast as found in the special radio tuning Tesla used.


Can you elaborate? Because I don't see an iota of information oar any sense at all in that sentence.


That refers to the Tesla radio operation.
The environment use in radio is very mechanical as electricity is an invisible force and
will naturally effect things we do not see.


Explain! What is "mechanical"? What things that we don't see will electricity "effect"?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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Tesla thought of his wave generation as mechanical.
He said like sound waves.
His waves would go through the Earth as pressure waves just as they went through
gases in tubes or in evacuated tubes.
Scanning the waves would disclose objects in and on the Earth like radar does not do
but sonar does as Tesla said his work would do and I suspect he knew he could do it
and was tested but wanted full control over any commercial build.

On the matter of energy when we see velocity that is a kinetic energy term and would be
associated with the Tesla 50x speed of light environment.
I do not recall any development of the Einstein equation except people saying mass
became energy instead of the mass having a kinetic energy. A lot of tiny particles
endowed with a lot of kinetic energy made the A bombs work. Perhaps a Relativists
diversion from the true source of energy, the environment.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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thank you TeslaandLyne

how easy it is to forget the genius of a man who was Nikola Tesla
when people are so easy to dismmiss such a man "they" themselves must be great men
or sadly missinformed
the discoveries of this electrical poineer continue in may ways around you and most have no idea of his benifits on others and the "field" (pun lol) in which he worked.
im sure if he didnt work on "energy" he would have been remembered in the history books,
any one who has studied this man, his life, his acomplishments,
would be pretty self indugent to compair themselves to him
and even in ignorence to missunderstand the technology that he gave man is disturbing
there are many a story about this man and his life,
not all true not all false

one "story" that stood out to me was that tesla could design things in his head that when machined and fitted together would fit perfectly.
the man build his inventions in his mind then replecated them in parts.

does this man who meet with other great scientists over his liftime not deserve the credit for the world we live in today with our "electric" society?

my answer is yes this man was a pioneer and it is a symtom of some larger problems with society that we do not recognise him

star and flag

xploder



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by XPLodER
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thank you TeslaandLyne

how easy it is to forget the genius of a man who was Nikola Tesla
when people are so easy to dismmiss such a man


If you think anybody dismisses Tesla's genius, you haven't looked very hard. What gets dismissed in due course is lots of verbal cr@p which is typically interpretation of the more obscure of Tesla's ideas by people with zero knowledge of the subject.

Now, a few words from the remainder of your post:



missinformed
acomplishments
compair
ignorence
replecated
recognise


From where I sit, it seems that you are lacking proper schooling (like in grammar school). It's too rich of you to pass judgement on areas of science outside of the kindergarten curriculum.



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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That story of Tesla was in John J. O'Neill's book and perhaps every engineer has
that ability to visualize their creation. When put in the hands of other thats when
things go wrong.

There is plenty we do not know about Tesla.
edit on 6/29/2011 by TeslaandLyne because: took out of ... not needed



posted on Jun, 29 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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Must be a CIA scrambler on my post to keep you in the dark.
I usually catch on or in the and other small words in the wrong place
messing up things and last time I didn't even go back to change them.
This must have been a very important post to scramble that much.

ED: Oops the XPLodER post did that. Who needs to type right or
spell check, this is the internet.
edit on 6/29/2011 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)




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