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posted on Jun, 18 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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Tesla, at the press conference honoring his 77th birthday in 1933 declared that electric power was everywhere present in unlimited quantities and could drive the worlds machinery without the need of coal, oil, gas, or any other fuels.


www.lightchamber.org...

Oh sure full of crap and can't be in a science forum.
Bull.
Well we now know what Tesla was talking about.
Bully.
ED:
www.google.com...

[url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/19598092/Harnessing-Cosmic-Energy1]_/url]
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posted on Jun, 18 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
High speed particles, 50x the speed of light even you would have to admit is very fast
I admit 50x the speed of light is very fast. (Even 1x the speed of light seems fast to me). Who besides Tesla measured these particles going 50x the speed of light? Anyone?

You know, Tesla doesn't have to be put in one box or the other, between genius engineer and mad scientist. Wikipedia portrays him as both, since some ideas worked really well, and other ideas seemed bizarre. So with Tesla, as with many other claims regarding the world in which we live, there is both fact and fiction which need to be sorted out, most reliably by experimental confirmation of theories and ideas, hence my inquiry regarding experimental confirmation for the 50x light speed particles.



posted on Jun, 18 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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Tesla had 50 foot diameter coils and millions of volts approaching the atomic Mev range
in which he most amazingly drove electrons into the nucleus generating neutrinos.
He thus would be able to detect very active reactions with high voltage display tubes.
I think we are sure how Tesla detected the rays and surely we know due to their ignorance
people have never found them and the works of Tesla still locked up prevents any disclosure
of Tesla's work the led to the Tesla statement.

Perhaps because some people think Tesla was right we have the anti Tesla conspiracy
due to people using Tesla's work for their own advantage.



posted on Jun, 18 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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somehow you managed to reply without answering my question so let me repeat it:

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Who besides Tesla measured these particles going 50x the speed of light? Anyone?



posted on Jun, 18 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur
reply to post by TeslaandLyne
 
somehow you managed to reply without answering my question so let me repeat it:

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Who besides Tesla measured these particles going 50x the speed of light? Anyone?




And perhaps you know the answer already so why ask it.
And here is why since you care not to tell.
The 50x SOL particles are all around like the BIG BANG remnant radiation and that is
why the BIG BANGERS will not say energetic particles exist destroying their Relativistic
and Thermodynamic Laws with any hit of constant energy from the environment.

You got to be a Relativistic and know darn well not a word of 50x SOL can be discovered
other than by Tesla.
ED: So the reason I answered with how Tesla worked gave no clue that Tesla alone
found the crushing news. Thus I must answer with the implications, No BIG BANG.
If not understood from the witness stand you may step down.
This is not a law case just the views of Tesla.
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posted on Jun, 18 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
You got to be a Relativistic and know darn well not a word of 50x SOL can be discovered
other than by Tesla.
No I'm not relativistic, I'm going with the estimate of about 370 km/s in the direction of the constellation Virgo just as a ballpark idea, and since the speed of light is 299792 km/s or so, I don't consider myself to be all that relativistic according to this definition:

www.thefreedictionary.com...

Of, relating to, or resulting from speeds approaching the speed of light:


Perhaps you meant relativist?

I guess according to his definition of relativist, I'm a relativist, though I don't think I'm stupid.

And doesn't Tesla have other followers besides you? What's to stop them from measuring the 50x light speed particles you mention? And don't give me the excuse they can't get published, I see papers getting published that contradict the big bang. As long as the papers use proper research methods, statistics, bias avoidance, etc that reviewers look for, they can get published.

This is a November,20, 2006 version of the Wikipedia article on Plasma Cosmology, which was subsequently heavily censored.

While plasma cosmology supporters have supported alternative explanations of the Hubble relation including the Wolf effect,[56] CREIL, and tired light mechanisms, most cosmologists consider the expanding universe to be supported by the overwhelming preponderance of observational evidence in cosmology.
I recall reading published papers on CREIL and tired light mechanisms, even though they contradict the big bang. But I don't recall reading any papers about particles going 50x the speed of light.



posted on Jun, 18 2011 @ 06:35 PM
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I have always thought that it's best to get to know a little background sometimes. www.scribd.com...



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by rstregooski
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Good post.. The saddest thing is that, while "Tesla" is also a unit of measure, the physics textbooks these days don't even mention the derivative of the name..


I think assigning a unit of magnetism the name Tesla the biggest insult of all.
And from the very start is not what Tesla is all about.

Voltage force was Tesla's forte.
Making X Rays before their official discovery was not about the magnetic field.

In fact transformer action and the force to rotate the rotor is all due to voltage.
If you think sine wave you are all wrong, just think the main body of the wave
as the plus and the minus with the plus giving the push.

Tesla devised his electrostatic voltage to act in plus only in a 1/4 wave action
that induced forces of mechanical waves. Some how according to my interpretation
of the Tesla wave effect without windings of copper to interact the unopposed
wave radiator is pulled by induction into the atmosphere. This idea by way the
coupling Tesla's words on motive forces and the Colorado Springs Notes for
wave production.

Don't get caught up in the Lyne momentum explanation as who cares about
theory when the practical has been accomplished. Go with the creation as
people have and wish to cloud and hide with extraneous ideas.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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I looked into cosmic particles and we get energy amounts in electron volts eV.
Also the official word is they keep on finding larger and larger energies.

So here is the Tesla Trap since no velocity, wave or particle, can be faster than
the speed of light the Energy is divided by C the speed of light and the mass
of the particle gets larger and larger.

Some sort of velocity scan might help or fancy trig function resolution might help
but what would be the explanation. Oh there was time reversal or it got there
from here in another dimension.

So those going for the Tesla Conspiracy would naturally say the universe is active
and alive and producing energy and not winding down from a BIG BANG that has
Laws of Thermodynamics that say energy can never be recovered as in the mono
hydrogen cycle discovered by William Lyne which is over unity taking heat from
the environment when mono hydrogen forms the diatomic hydrogen gas.

The active masses in the environment were apparently involved in the Tesla electrostatic
pushes at radio frequencies behind the many Tesla undisclosed projects of force beams
and power transmission and communication without wires.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla and his energy from the environment in one find happens to be radioactivity.


everything that exists is a form of electromagnetic radiation, everything, from subatomic particles to your fingernail to the sun, its alllllllll electromagnetic radiation. just different parts of the spectrum is all.

so for you to say tesla was converting some form of radiation into electricity, is like duuuuuhhhh

its like saying water is wet,

specify man! what form of radiation? from what plot on the spectrum? how is it done? those are the important details and of course the ones your op lacks,

we do exist in an ethereal energy, existence itself is energy, the fact that we are still using fuel to get electricity is utter ludicrous has to be the biggest sham of our entire existence on this earth,

we just keep on betraying ourselves for money/power/control,

a human beings selfish wants has time and time again gained the favor of those who could make a change to this world that would benefit all human beings, pushing us towards equality,

but every time someone is presented with the opportunity to bring some equality to the scales they instead use it to their advantage to put themselves above others,

thats the bad part about equality that no one seems to want, is that you cant be above people and better then them if you are equal,

so a corporation is presented with infinite electricity without fuel, and their options are?
1, provide it to society and it will bring equality,
or
2, hide it and use it to elevate your status above all those who you would deem "competition"

if you think about it, fighting for survival does not actually mean individual survival, because everyone dies, inevitably, so really the survival you are fighting for is the survival of humanity itself, your species, so the real competition in life, is never another person or individual, but rather, any idea or act which counteracts the survival of the species,

selfish urge is the real competition, the real enemy, until we learn to fight and live for each other, and not for ourselves, we are losing,

and somehow there are people on this earth who dont seem to understand why a company wouldn't allow us free electricity if they could,

how stupid is that, duuuuhhh! electricity company's dont want you to provide you with electricity, what they WANT is your MONEY!

no fuel = no price tag = no money

btw

no money = no control,

currency itself is nothing more than a scheme to unequalize us, to divide us, to divide power and control, to the ones who have money, and away from the ones who have not.

just my own opinionated rant
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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla and his energy from the environment in one find happens to be radioactivity.


everything that exists is a form of electromagnetic radiation, everything, from subatomic particles to your fingernail to the sun, its alllllllll electromagnetic radiation. just different parts of the spectrum is all.


This is the kind of pseudo-science talk here on ATS that's really irritating. Ignorant people hijack the dictionary by assigning random meaning to well defined scientific terms, because that makes silly things sound vague and significant.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Definitely not the sort of research or input I would look for. Perhaps an attempt to sabotage a Tesla thread by opponents of Bill Lyne. I did review Tesla's statements in light of Lyne's work and just interested in presenting the findings instead of look here what this guy said. For whatever reasons Lyne found in Tesla's research he has his own research findings that just might match those of Tesla. The Tesla use of high voltage, the making of Radium does invoke the K Capture process. Any stand up verification of Lyne has been few indeed but there has been some.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla and his energy from the environment in one find happens to be radioactivity.


everything that exists is a form of electromagnetic radiation, everything, from subatomic particles to your fingernail to the sun, its alllllllll electromagnetic radiation. just different parts of the spectrum is all.


This is the kind of pseudo-science talk here on ATS that's really irritating. Ignorant people hijack the dictionary by assigning random meaning to well defined scientific terms, because that makes silly things sound vague and significant.


and this post of yours is clear example of how people dont understand the universe they are in even AFTER scientists are documenting it,

atom/particles themselves are only electromagnetic radiation, and all is composed of them, so how then is it you doubt this?

does this poster help? - unihedron.com...



i have that poster on my wall :p
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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye
and this post of yours is clear example of how people dont understand the universe they are in even AFTER scientists are documenting it


I am one.


atom/particles themselves are only electromagnetic radiation


They are not and I can only wonder how you got this nonsense into your head.


does this poster help? - unihedron.com...


Does a poster of AC/DC help?



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye
atom/particles themselves are only electromagnetic radiation, and all is composed of them, so how then is it you doubt this?

does this poster help? - unihedron.com...
No the poster doesn't help, there aren't any atoms on it.

So it seems like your own evidence is disproving your assertion that atoms are electromagnetic radiation.

Did YOU look at that poster? Because I don't see how you could have, and then claim atoms are on it, when they aren't.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye
atom/particles themselves are only electromagnetic radiation, and all is composed of them, so how then is it you doubt this?

does this poster help? - unihedron.com...
No the poster doesn't help, there aren't any atoms on it.

So it seems like your own evidence is disproving your assertion that atoms are electromagnetic radiation.

Did YOU look at that poster? Because I don't see how you could have, and then claim atoms are on it, when they aren't.


they are..

second



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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how's electron EM radiation?
how's neutron EM radiation?
how's top quark EM radiation?

Please answer these specific questions, and if you can't, then stop talking nonsense, with all attendant parts of its nonsensical spectrum.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye
they are..

second
So you don't understand the difference between what a "source" is and what a "size" is, is that it?

Yes electromagnetic radiation can have wavelengths the size of a molecule.

That doesn't mean a molecule is electromagnetic radiation, that is only a size reference to give you some idea how long the wavelength is. For example the water molecule is referenced in the size column as 0.3nm. But if you look at the source of the radiation, it's an X-ray machine, not the water molecule.

Is that what confused you?



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye
they are..

second
So you don't understand the difference between what a "source" is and what a "size" is, is that it?

Yes electromagnetic radiation can have wavelengths the size of a molecule.

That doesn't mean a molecule is electromagnetic radiation, that is only a size reference to give you some idea how long the wavelength is. For example the water molecule is referenced in the size column as 0.3nm. But if you look at the source of the radiation, it's an X-ray machine, not the water molecule.

Is that what confused you?



Well said.

There are sea waves the size of Volkswagen, but that does not mean that VW is made of water.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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Duh Mr All is Radiation forgot mass.
Which even Einstein thought existed.

I think I went into the mass going to Energy fallacy or will I have to find
the Tesla decree that Energy is from environment all over again.

I usually get Tesla was all about resonance that builds up into tremendous
energy or forces but alas the thermonuclear reaction just comes down to
particle interactions we just don't understand. Not knowing the activity to
heat reaction we are told the Einstein equation works but how do we know
there is any other reason for heat build up.

Various rocks feel warm due to radioactivity and can be used as hand
warmers or were before realizing the radioactivity is harmful. Putting together
a pile to make steam gives us the same efficiency as coal and a pile of
highly radioactive waste to store. Thus not knowing the workings of ionization
from radiation and using current sources is keeping us in an energy shortage.

Go Green or Go Tesla.
ED: Tesla used electrostatic waves or radiation and not EM waves, he said so
many times. These ES waves move the mass in the air and gasses in a high
speed agitation that cause illumination. The waves have enough force to
move his flying machine and set up black radiation and illumination to surround
the ship at times.
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