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reply posted on 18-6-2011 @ 12:20 PM by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by Arbitrageur



Tesla had 50 foot diameter coils and millions of volts approaching the atomic Mev range
in which he most amazingly drove electrons into the nucleus generating neutrinos.
He thus would be able to detect very active reactions with high voltage display tubes.
I think we are sure how Tesla detected the rays and surely we know due to their ignorance
people have never found them and the works of Tesla still locked up prevents any disclosure
of Tesla's work the led to the Tesla statement.

Perhaps because some people think Tesla was right we have the anti Tesla conspiracy
due to people using Tesla's work for their own advantage.



reply posted on 18-6-2011 @ 01:12 PM by Arbitrageur
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

somehow you managed to reply without answering my question so let me repeat it:
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Who besides Tesla measured these particles going 50x the speed of light? Anyone?



reply posted on 18-6-2011 @ 01:21 PM by TeslaandLyne
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
reply to
post by TeslaandLyne

somehow you managed to reply without answering my question so let me repeat it:
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Who besides Tesla measured these particles going 50x the speed of light? Anyone?




And perhaps you know the answer already so why ask it.
And here is why since you care not to tell.
The 50x SOL particles are all around like the BIG BANG remnant radiation and that is
why the BIG BANGERS will not say energetic particles exist destroying their Relativistic
and Thermodynamic Laws with any hit of constant energy from the environment.

You got to be a Relativistic and know darn well not a word of 50x SOL can be discovered
other than by Tesla.
ED: So the reason I answered with how Tesla worked gave no clue that Tesla alone
found the crushing news. Thus I must answer with the implications, No BIG BANG.
If not understood from the witness stand you may step down.
This is not a law case just the views of Tesla.
edit on 6/18/2011 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 18-6-2011 @ 06:30 PM by Arbitrageur
Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
You got to be a Relativistic and know darn well not a word of 50x SOL can be discovered
other than by Tesla.
No I'm not relativistic, I'm going with the estimate of about
370 km/s in the direction of the constellation Virgo just as a ballpark idea, and since the speed of light is 299792 km/s or so, I don't consider myself to be all that relativistic according to this definition:

www.thefreedictionary.com...
Of, relating to, or resulting from speeds approaching the speed of light:


Perhaps you meant relativist?

I guess according to his definition of relativist, I'm a relativist, though I don't think I'm stupid.

And doesn't Tesla have other followers besides you? What's to stop them from measuring the 50x light speed particles you mention? And don't give me the excuse they can't get published, I see papers getting published that contradict the big bang. As long as the papers use proper research methods, statistics, bias avoidance, etc that reviewers look for, they can get published.

This is a November,20, 2006 version of the Wikipedia article on Plasma Cosmology, which was subsequently heavily censored.
While plasma cosmology supporters have supported alternative explanations of the Hubble relation including the Wolf effect,[56] CREIL, and tired light mechanisms, most cosmologists consider the expanding universe to be supported by the overwhelming preponderance of observational evidence in cosmology.
I recall reading published papers on CREIL and tired light mechanisms, even though they contradict the big bang. But I don't recall reading any papers about particles going 50x the speed of light.


reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 09:56 AM by TeslaandLyne
Originally posted by rstregooski
reply to
post by TeslaandLyne



Good post.. The saddest thing is that, while "Tesla" is also a unit of measure, the physics textbooks these days don't even mention the derivative of the name..


I think assigning a unit of magnetism the name Tesla the biggest insult of all.
And from the very start is not what Tesla is all about.

Voltage force was Tesla's forte.
Making X Rays before their official discovery was not about the magnetic field.

In fact transformer action and the force to rotate the rotor is all due to voltage.
If you think sine wave you are all wrong, just think the main body of the wave
as the plus and the minus with the plus giving the push.

Tesla devised his electrostatic voltage to act in plus only in a 1/4 wave action
that induced forces of mechanical waves. Some how according to my interpretation
of the Tesla wave effect without windings of copper to interact the unopposed
wave radiator is pulled by induction into the atmosphere. This idea by way the
coupling Tesla's words on motive forces and the Colorado Springs Notes for
wave production.

Don't get caught up in the Lyne momentum explanation as who cares about
theory when the practical has been accomplished. Go with the creation as
people have and wish to cloud and hide with extraneous ideas.


reply posted on 21-6-2011 @ 10:10 AM by pryingopen3rdeye
Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla and his energy from the environment in one find happens to be radioactivity.


everything that exists is a form of electromagnetic radiation, everything, from subatomic particles to your fingernail to the sun, its alllllllll electromagnetic radiation. just different parts of the spectrum is all.

so for you to say tesla was converting some form of radiation into electricity, is like duuuuuhhhh

its like saying water is wet,

specify man! what form of radiation? from what plot on the spectrum? how is it done? those are the important details and of course the ones your op lacks,

we do exist in an ethereal energy, existence itself is energy, the fact that we are still using fuel to get electricity is utter ludicrous has to be the biggest sham of our entire existence on this earth,

we just keep on betraying ourselves for money/power/control,

a human beings selfish wants has time and time again gained the favor of those who could make a change to this world that would benefit all human beings, pushing us towards equality,

but every time someone is presented with the opportunity to bring some equality to the scales they instead use it to their advantage to put themselves above others,

thats the bad part about equality that no one seems to want, is that you cant be above people and better then them if you are equal,

so a corporation is presented with infinite electricity without fuel, and their options are?
1, provide it to society and it will bring equality,
or
2, hide it and use it to elevate your status above all those who you would deem "competition"

if you think about it, fighting for survival does not actually mean individual survival, because everyone dies, inevitably, so really the survival you are fighting for is the survival of humanity itself, your species, so the real competition in life, is never another person or individual, but rather, any idea or act which counteracts the survival of the species,

selfish urge is the real competition, the real enemy, until we learn to fight and live for each other, and not for ourselves, we are losing,

and somehow there are people on this earth who dont seem to understand why a company wouldn't allow us free electricity if they could,

how stupid is that, duuuuhhh! electricity company's dont want you to provide you with electricity, what they WANT is your MONEY!

no fuel = no price tag = no money

btw

no money = no control,

currency itself is nothing more than a scheme to unequalize us, to divide us, to divide power and control, to the ones who have money, and away from the ones who have not.

just my own opinionated rant
edit on 6/21/11 by pryingopen3rdeye because: (no reason given)
edit on 6/21/11 by pryingopen3rdeye because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 22-6-2011 @ 10:13 AM by TeslaandLyne
reply to post by buddhasystem



Definitely not the sort of research or input I would look for. Perhaps an attempt to sabotage a Tesla thread by opponents of Bill Lyne. I did review Tesla's statements in light of Lyne's work and just interested in presenting the findings instead of look here what this guy said. For whatever reasons Lyne found in Tesla's research he has his own research findings that just might match those of Tesla. The Tesla use of high voltage, the making of Radium does invoke the K Capture process. Any stand up verification of Lyne has been few indeed but there has been some.



reply posted on 23-6-2011 @ 01:18 AM by Arbitrageur
Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye
atom/particles themselves are only electromagnetic radiation, and all is composed of them, so how then is it you doubt this?

does this poster help? -
unihedron.com...
No the poster doesn't help, there aren't any atoms on it.

So it seems like your own evidence is disproving your assertion that atoms are electromagnetic radiation.

Did YOU look at that poster? Because I don't see how you could have, and then claim atoms are on it, when they aren't.


reply posted on 23-6-2011 @ 01:48 AM by pryingopen3rdeye
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye
atom/particles themselves are only electromagnetic radiation, and all is composed of them, so how then is it you doubt this?

does this poster help? -
unihedron.com...
No the poster doesn't help, there aren't any atoms on it.

So it seems like your own evidence is disproving your assertion that atoms are electromagnetic radiation.

Did YOU look at that poster? Because I don't see how you could have, and then claim atoms are on it, when they aren't.


they are..

second


reply posted on 23-6-2011 @ 08:43 AM by buddhasystem
reply to post by pryingopen3rdeye



how's electron EM radiation?
how's neutron EM radiation?
how's top quark EM radiation?

Please answer these specific questions, and if you can't, then stop talking nonsense, with all attendant parts of its nonsensical spectrum.
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