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Contraceptive Implant and shtf situation.

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posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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The contraceptive implant is a small, match stick size plastic rod that is inserted into the non dominant arm and provides protection from pregnancy for three years, and when it runs out is just replaced, or removed. Check the link if you want to know more.

www.nhs.uk...

Now whats been playing on my mind is in in a shtf situation, access to a doctor, or someone qualified/experienced to remove the implant, what happens?

Would you risk removing it yourself, or leave it in?




posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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Very thought provoking post. Although the IUD would be the one I'd be more concerned with having removed. I had Norplant (Awful) and it is just under the skin and could be removed easily. Does require a few stitches but pretty simple.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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You could leave it in for a while, as long as there is no swelling or discomfort. After a year or two of shtf and no Dr. Quackensteins that bad boy has to come out. I say this because the materials used could be (I don't know for sure) like the RFID implants and those cause cancer after long time implantation.

But I don't understand why women would want those things in them anyway, it is steroids after all.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 09:59 AM
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3 years...if you get a implant, and the next day, some mega issue happens, chances are, for the first year or so your not considering kids anyhow, more focused in on the day to day survival thing.

After a couple years of survival, you might consider the whole repopulation thing, so...my suggestion would be just leave it in and let it wear out..by the time you can get pregnant, some form of stability may be established to successfully carry out term and actually raise the child.

I wonder though, what sort of SHTF senario could effect a minor extraction of a implant anyhow...would have to be fantasy type zombie apocolypse or some such...if its a nuclear war, chances are, background radiation will be doing a swell job of keeping you without pregnancys anyhow



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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That is an interesting question. I am not a doctor but my cousin had this procedure done after her first child. She was suppose to have it removed after the first 3 years, but being poor and without access to a doctor she had to leave it in. I don't recall her ever having any problems with it, but she did become pregant right at the three year mark.Now if it were me I wouldn't risk the trying to remove it myself because the risks out way the need. But I propose another question, when tshtf what are women to use as birth control to prevent pregnancies?Without the access to contraceptives and condoms what are some natural plants to prevent becoming knocked up at that time.

Here is one off pages I came across.I skimmed it for the most part but it does hold some info.

www.sisterzeus.com...

Other methods included were the pull out which everyone should know is not that effective and the knowledge of how your cycle works.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by stinavamp
But I propose another question, when tshtf what are women to use as birth control to prevent pregnancies?


Way back when women used to put pebbles in their hoo hoos



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by JJDoggie84

Originally posted by stinavamp
But I propose another question, when tshtf what are women to use as birth control to prevent pregnancies?


Way back when women used to put pebbles in their hoo hoos


Did they really?



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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Unless for some reason it gets knocked or infected or starts causing you discomfort in any way, you'd just be able to leave it in. It'd wear out and just become a sort of... stick... in your arm. I don't think it would cause any harm to be honest, because they're in anyway, aren't they?

Or, you could risk infection and nastiness and just make a slit under it and cut it out, if you were really desperate. I'd probably just leave it alone though.

But I've seen those things, and frankly, no one's coming near my arm with one



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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I'm looking for a source. I read it a while ago, but people used to do the same thing with camels... I will continue looking for some sources

Edit: So here is a link where they say pebbles were used on camels by Arabs:


The appearance of the intrauterine devices historically attributed to Arabs. Pebbles inserted into the uterus of camels prevented them from getting pregnant on the long trips across the desert. Mild infection in the uterus produced by the pebbles affected the fertilization and implantation of eggs

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Edit: So I found a sentence (I know, very impressive, NOT) That suggests that ancients inserted objects into the uterus to prevent pregnancy here:


The oldest modification of an intrauterine device (IUD) used today was suggested by Hippocrates who thought that inserting different objects into the uterus could make pregnancy impossible.

edit on 16-6-2011 by JJDoggie84 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by butterflycatcher
The contraceptive implant is a small, match stick size plastic rod that is inserted into the non dominant arm and provides protection from pregnancy for three years, and when it runs out is just replaced, or removed. Check the link if you want to know more.

www.nhs.uk...

Now whats been playing on my mind is in in a shtf situation, access to a doctor, or someone qualified/experienced to remove the implant, what happens?

Would you risk removing it yourself, or leave it in?


!!!!! One of the first actually thread on ATS that is both vital and topical.

Butterflycatcher, you deserve a S&F for this, thank you.

As to the topic, wow, never thought of stuff like that... I am thinking Charlie Jade things here, but I'd remove it myself to prevent knowledge of 'not being' left with one, if you know what I mean.

Charlie jade, if you get the chance, watch it. Brilliant.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 10:34 AM
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I wondered the samething. My GF has the IUD and the only conclution i came up with was get it removed before things get really bad. The only SHFT problem i see that is most probabal is an economic collapse and with that we would have a few weeks before things get bad.

For birth control after. condoms, lots of condoms stocked away



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by JJDoggie84

Originally posted by stinavamp
But I propose another question, when tshtf what are women to use as birth control to prevent pregnancies?


Way back when women used to put pebbles in their hoo hoos


NO wonder they called him BAM BAM in the flintstones, I never knew pebbles was so involved back then.

Oo

lol



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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Back in the old west there was a silver coin prostitutes used as an improvised dutch cap, to seal off the cervix.

Getting fitted for such a method as a diaphragm should be top of the survival list for women of bearing age. Usually thick flexible rubber they will last years beyond the pull dates of condoms.
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posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Excellent topic. A gynecologist once told me that he heard of IUD's used in some third world countries and one woman who had it in for over 30 years with no side effects. I also read about certain herbs or wild plants that have abortive qualities, but that information is hard to find. There were warnings not to use them if you're trying to get pregnant. Something to check into.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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Girls I know who are survival minded usually get fitted for the removable barrier. They also tend to fit themselves with a menstrual cup.

Both items together weigh just a few ounces and eliminate stocks of consumable items that would be stored and eventually run out.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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I will never recommend anybody to implant something foreign in their bodies.

This implants are dangerous and many people have not clue they can be allergic or have skin allergies to the implant.

Just don't get the darn thing to begin with.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 03:19 PM
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Removal of an implant from the arm is a simple procedure that requires minimal surgical knowledge. Finding the implant can be done by palpating the area where the implant is located (pretty much everyone I know that has once of these knows where it is anyway). Sterilize the area with alcohol or iodine to minimize the risk of infection. The next step is injecting a local anesthetic under or below the implant distal, then making a small incision at the end of the implant and gently easing the rod out of the incision. Sometimes a small pair of forceps will be needed if the implant will not push out, find the end and very carefully ease it out. A small stitch will be required to close the wound. Dress and keep clean and dry for a few days.

As for leaving it in, studies of the implant showed it was effective sporadically up to 4.5 years in 68% of women but this was not good enough so it was only approved for 3 years. Leaving it in when you want to get pregnant may not work because of this, even after 3 years. There are no reported cases of anything detrimental occurring if it was left in indefinitely though.

For UID's its a little more complicated and I would rather not go into that here I am afraid


Hope this helps a little guys



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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back in the day they use to make condoms out of sheep stomach.

interesting effect there that it was a mood killer



men dont have sex
women dont have sex

or just buy alot of condoms they have multiple uses and not just for procreation or recreation.


on another note: men make sure your wives and girlfriends never get breast enhancements during a shtf scenario and no specialized care that is a death sentence depending on whether or not its saline or silicon.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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I am wondering the same thing about IUD's. I have one and if SHTF I cant take it out myself after 5 yrs someone else would have to do it...but who? It kind of freaks me out.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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well all is fair in love and shtf so i vote next time men put pebbles in their crotch.



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