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Scientists Prove Existence of 'Magnetic Ropes' That Cause Solar Storms

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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 11:27 PM
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Scientists Prove Existence of 'Magnetic Ropes' That Cause Solar Storms


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(June 15, 2011) — George Mason University scientists discovered recently that a phenomenon called a giant magnetic rope is the cause of solar storms. Confirming the existence of this formation is a key first step in helping to mitigate the adverse effects that solar storm eruptions can have on satellite communications on Earth.
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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 11:27 PM
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Sun's image taken at 03:41 UT on March 8, 2011, showing numerous loops of magnetic fields emanating from multiple island-like active regions across the surface of the Sun. The white box encloses the particular active region where the giant magnetic rope was discovered. The image, taken by the Atmospheric Imaging Assembly (AIA) telescope on board SDO at the Extreme Ultraviolet wavelength of 171 Angstrom, maps the highly-charge corona gas material at temperature about 1 million degree Celsius.


It was assume, but its now considered proven. I like the aspect of having better advanced warning systems for solar storms. Would this also equate into warning systems for earthquakes and volcanos as well? I know many speculate a link between them.



Scientists suspected that the magnetic rope, if it indeed existed, was the phenomenon that powered the eruption. A magnetic rope contains many magnetic field lines wrapping around a center axis and possibly twisting around each other. Because of the twisting, a strong electric current can be carried by the magnetic rope. Theoretically, the electric current could produce a sufficient electro-magnetic force to overcome the overlying constraining force from other field lines and power the magnetic rope to move outward




"Understanding the eruption process of these storms will definitely help us better predict them," says Zhang. "We cannot prevent solar storms, just like we cannot prevent earthquakes or volcanoes. But the development of prediction capacity can help mitigate adverse effects. For instance, satellite operators can power-down key systems to prevent the possible damage to the systems.


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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 11:34 PM
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Hmm, this is pretty intriguing. It reminds me of a thread I came across recently that presented a new theory for Electro-Magnetism. I will have to do a search for it. ETA: sorry, This is the thread I was refering to. I couldnt find it at first. The scientist put this forward as a theory. Ill have to make a note to do further research and see if anything is connected.

On a side note, I have always wondered this: Why do some people post a new thread in two or more separate posts? Usually the first post is the source, and the second post is their opinion. Im not being accusatory, I sincerely wonder.
edit on 15-6-2011 by IntegratedInstigator because: I found the reference thread I was looking for.

edit on 15-6-2011 by IntegratedInstigator because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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It is the format for the breaking news section. the top post is always from the source, with the source link. and i believe 250 words.

the 2nd post is more content and anything you want to say.

That is how ATS makes you enter it on the form.


And yes this may give more credence to the electric universe theory



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 11:45 PM
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I see. I am fairly new here, and have never posted a new thread in the Breaking Alternative News section.


Back on topic: Its pretty interesting that now two separate sources have decided to represent magnetic phenomenon with ropes. It makes me wonder if there is literally a sort of invisible rope physically connecting the two bodies, or is it merely a better way to model what we see happening, an analogy of sorts.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 11:56 PM
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More confusion from astronomers who are daily "baffled" by what they are looking at. Their is no such thing as a "magnetic rope". It's called the magnetic field. It forms around an electric current. This is pretty basic.




Electrical engineers and plasma cosmologists will tell you that magnetic reconnection is one of the most contradictory ideas that astronomers ever derived from the mistaken belief that there are no electric currents in space.

Astronomers today are taking pictures of something they call “magnetic reconnection” on the Sun, and space probes are measuring something else in the Earth's magnetosphere that has also been given the same name. If you ask a plasma cosmologist about these, he'll tell you that the astronomers don't know what they're talking about. They're looking at well-understood plasma phenomena, exploding double layers and electric discharge, not magnetic reconnection. Which side will triumph?

Here's how it's shaping up. Now that astronomers are looking at real phenomena rather than elegant equations, they realize that their equations aren't as predictive as they had hoped. The magnetic reconnection equations called for a slow discharge of energy lasting for years, but the solar flares discharge in minutes with much more energy than expected. But astronomers have also noticed that whenever magnetic reconnection happens, there seem to be regions of electron-depleted space associated with it [plasma cosmologists call them electric currents.] The electron-depleted atoms are traveling at speeds of up to 1000 km/sec [which plasma cosmologists recognize as one of the "characteristic velocities" of plasma in the lab.] And astronomers find that during the magnetic reconnection process, a two-layer flow of particles is created that speeds the release of energy [plasma cosmologists call them double layers.]

The only problem astronomers still need to solve is why so much more energy than they were expecting is produced by the process. Hannés Alfvén could help them here: In the mid-1960's, he was called by the Swedish Power Company to solve a similar problem on a more down-to-Earth scale. The company was using large rectifiers to convert electrical power from AC to DC for easier transport from the generators in the north to the cities in the south. But every once in a while the plasma in the rectifier would explode, causing considerable damage. The problem turned out to be exploding double layers, like those found in "magnetic reconnection" on the Sun.

The explosions expended more energy than was contained by the plasma in the rectifier because the energy from the whole length of the circuit flowed back into the break. In Sweden, this was over 600 miles of electric wires. On the Sun -- well, we don't know yet how long those circuits are. The astronomers will no doubt solve the problem of too much energy released by magnetic reconnection, and the answer will no doubt depend on the dimensions of the "electron-depleted regions." But the question for historians is this: who will be remembered? Will this still be called magnetic reconnection (although it hardly resembles the original theory at all)? Will its discovery be credited to early 21st century astronomers? Or will history remember that plasma researchers like Jacobson and Carlqvist were explaining solar flares as exploded double layers 50 years ago?

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posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 12:26 AM
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The story is told of how the demigod Maui used ropes of olona to capture La, the Sun, as he crept over the rim of Haleakala. After each of his arms was lassoed and bound, La agreed to slow his path across the sky so that the people would have time to dry their kapa and fulfill the other tasks of everyday life.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 01:00 AM
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Yep if only Astronomers stuck their finger in their toaster more often than scribbling theoretical equations across a white board. Just waiting for the day the chalk stick drops at the feet of an Astronomer/electrical-plasma cosmologists/engineer. Would have been beneficial to make electrical engineering a compulsory subject to study prior to Astronomy.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 02:24 AM
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Yeah!
What Phage said. Whatever the hell it was!



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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So is this debunked, or a possible real theory.

If real, is it possible for these 'magnetic ropes' to exist between foreign bodies entering our system such as Elenin, and hence the coincidental geological effects happening when the sun, earth and elenin align?

No, Elenin might not be Nibiru, no, it might not be part of another solar system, no, it might not be a spaceship, but there has been earthquakes on this planet everyday those 3 bodies align and this could be the cause.




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