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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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So here's the deal. As we all know the Jewish people have been mistreated, persecuted, slaughtered and just railed against for centuries. My question is this; Why? Some one please explain it too me. I mean, there's DEFINITELY a conspiracy or something against them. What did they ever do? They've never killed anyone, I mean some say it goes back to Jesus, but he WAS Jewish. Could it all lead back to him? What are your thoughts, opinions, etc. I really want to hear what you have to say. But all I ask is please be kind to each other and their opinions.




posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Well This guy said its the amelekiens .

Im pretty sure its not just the jewish people everyones after
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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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didnt they kill jesus???

Probably still a big thing if they did....and wouldnt surprise me if it wasnt the sole reason.

There are plenty of pics of priests with nazi's from the second world war....
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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:28 PM
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No, actually the Romans did. Admittedly the Jews that were in the town didn't protect Jesus for fear of punishment from the Roman government.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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Starting in Gen. 16, you can read of the two peoples who fought each other before they were even born. Abraham had two sons, Isaac and Ishmael, by two different women, and both the boys and the women couldn't stand each other. Jacob and Esau were twins born to Isaac, and their mother could hardly stand the jostling in her womb until they were born. They and their descendants became the Arabs (from Esau) and the Jews (Jacob), and following the groups through history reveals a perpetual animosity that continues to this day.

That explains the hostility between Arabs and Jews. But what about the rest? Satan, pure and simple. The Messiah would come from the Jews and Satan tried everything to prevent that. Having failed, the hatred continued and festered to this day, where the motive now is to annihilate them so that the prophecies about them cannot come true.

People will make up all kinds of other stories because they hate the Bible, but there you are.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by CrashUnderride
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No, actually the Romans did. Admittedly the Jews that were in the town didn't protect Jesus for fear of punishment from the Roman government.



The official position of the Catholic Church on this matter was clearly stated in Vatican II's Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions (1965): "Even though the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ (cf. Jn 19:16), neither all Jews indiscrimately at that time, nor Jews today, can be charged with the crimes committed during his passion" (#4).


who killed jesus??




posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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The story goes back to Satan (the prince of this world) who knows his time of ascendency is limited.

Satan's basically tried to prevent humans from being able to be forgiven for their sins and therefore to ascend to the next stage (where they will supplant the angels as the primary spiritual beings under God).

So Satan first attempted to destroy Israel (from where the Redeemer would come). Failing that, he now tries to prevent the "saving from judgement" of humans, specifically those who would "give all" to God.

There's like a counter for the number of martyred "saints" that God alone holds and when that number is reached, Satan will be judged and imprisoned and the world (as it is now) will be expired and replaced. (Revelation 6: 9 - 11 and more in Revelation).

It is part of a gigantic cosmic plan that God has to create a super-evolved species from the raw materials of the human race. In this process, all the experiences, thoughts, memories and emotions of all humanity, over all time, will be retained and utilised in this re-creation of ourselves.
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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:39 PM
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I'm not saying it's not true, but me personally, I tend NOT to believe what the Catholic Church says. I mean, look at all the secrecy around the Vatican vault, all the things they kept out of the Bible. And need I mention the situation with the pervo priests? lol



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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So what you're saying God's plan is to kinda create his own version of the Borg? I mean, not the willingness to murder others, but the collective aspect of it.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by CrashUnderride
So here's the deal. As we all know the Jewish people have been mistreated, persecuted, slaughtered and just railed against for centuries. My question is this; Why? Some one please explain it too me. I mean, there's DEFINITELY a conspiracy or something against them. What did they ever do? They've never killed anyone, I mean some say it goes back to Jesus, but he WAS Jewish. Could it all lead back to him? What are your thoughts, opinions, etc. I really want to hear what you have to say. But all I ask is please be kind to each other and their opinions.


Yeah, apparently the Jews have not been liked throughout written history, I guess. Here's a video that is a summary of a book about the history of the world not liking the Jewish people

What Famous Men Said About the Jews - False Jews Synagogue of Satan [Rev 2:9 and 3:9] part 1 of 5


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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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I would like to thank whoever moved this thread to the proper section. I didn't see it when I looked so thank you.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by CrashUnderride
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So what you're saying God's plan is to kinda create his own version of the Borg? I mean, not the willingness to murder others, but the collective aspect of it.


I think "the Borg" is what Satan would get if he tried to duplicate God's plan. Hell, even the transhumanists and technology are likely to achieve a "Borg" society someday (fairly inevitable).

I think what God offers retains our individuality, while also adding the collective bit.

If you were to ask yourself why the things that we are told in the bible are "sinful" are classified as such?

Some "sinful" things are to our evolutionary advantage (the standard answer usually assumes that they are sins because they negatively affect our survival as a species) so that can't be why they are sin. Why then?

But if you consider that everything described as "sin" is a hindrance to us accepting the level of communion with each other that is required for us to retain our individuality AND be part of a collective (at the thought level!) then it starts to make sense.

There's no way that bronze-age man (like Moses or Abraham) could really have conceived such a brilliant & incredible plan and its full consequences (which we are only just beginning to explore , philosophically and technologically).

It could only have been revealed to them by God.

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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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Well not that it matters, in the grand scheme of things, but to all the Jewish people out there and here on ATS: I as a Christian, I have no problems with you. In fact it pains me to see the things that have been done to the Jewish people. And I hope one day that everything is realized that the Jewish people are not guilty of any crimes.

I just felt that I should say that, in case any Jews read this.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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First off, I would like to say that I am German, Russian, and Jewish- most modern Jews are primarily Germanic and Slavic- and if there is any person that could tell you why people hate Jews it is me.

In today's time people who listen to mainstream media hate Jewish people for the issues surrounding around the Israel/Palestinian. However, many people who do their reserach on Jews and their recent and present connection with Western society find many more reason why to dislike Jews. For one, people find out that the Zionist Jewish family the Rothschilds own much of the world's wealth and thus power. These Jews originated in Germany- and are thus Germanic Jews- and they spread their banking system all throughout Europe and eventually to most of the surrounding when European Empires were established. They have been known for starting conflicts and investing in both sides in order to gain more money and power after any outcome- for example "The Battle of Waterloo." Presently, the Rothschilds are in control of the U.S.A.'s "Federal Reserve"- which is not "Federal" at all because they privately own it. The Federal Reserve prints out all of the money for the country and often creates economic problems, like the one we are in now, in order to create conflicts and gain more power and money afterwards.

Another example of why people hate Jews is because Jews overwhelmingly are in control of the media- such as Hollywood, the News, and TV. They in essence are able to sway people's opinion's on issues or on everyday matters if they see fit. What's more is that Jews have had an extreme disliking for Western society- both religiously and culturally- and often attempted to cause corruption in society through the media- One of Hitler's reasons why he disliked Jews was because of their willingness to create porn and prostitution industries and other similar institutions in the media in Germany in order so that gentiles could become corrupted. Though most Jews are white it is believed that most of the powerful Jews in the world, such as the Jews in charge of Western media, are very much anti-white and Christian. Hence, the anti-white bias in the media and willingness to endorse multiculturalism or multiracialism and globalization. This anti-white attitude in modern day society could just be a present reaction to the Second World War and the Holocaust- but little is known whether Jews will continue in wanting the ethnic cleansing of white countries in the future- or whether they are truly endorsing it.

Many signs do point to, however, a Jewish plot to ethnically cleanse white christian countries. The Immigration Act of 1965, I believe, in the USA got rid of Immigration restrictions and regulation in America- which only had accepted mass immigration from white countries before- and opened the flood gates from non-white countries; which is the reason why America has been slowly been ethnically and culturally cleansed for the last couple of decades. One theory for this is that by doing this the Jews believe that it would be easier to establish a one world government if people did not have a strong ethnic or cultural connections to themselves anymore. To a person's surprise, Jews have done similar situation before thousands of years ago before America. For example, the Jews openly supported and financed the Muslim Moorish invasion of Spain. Hence, it is not very hard to see Jews supporting something similar today in Western countries.

Finally, on my last note, do not think that Jews have never oppressed or killed people before. If someone says that they have never done so than that is a lie. I remember hearing about in ancient times the tribe of Israelites committed a couple of genocides to their surrounding neighbors- though I can't remember if this is true. What's more is that despite popular misconception, Jews were very much the oppressors in Soviet Russia. Most of the elites in Soviet Russia were Jews who were responsible for the genocide of at least 60 million Eastern Europeans. If you don't believe any of what I said that I ask you to do a couple of hours of research in order to gain an informed opinion.

There are several reasons why people hate Jews, but it is usually the Jews in control who give normal Jews a bad name.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by CrashUnderride
Well not that it matters, in the grand scheme of things, but to all the Jewish people out there and here on ATS: I as a Christian, I have no problems with you. In fact it pains me to see the things that have been done to the Jewish people. And I hope one day that everything is realized that the Jewish people are not guilty of any crimes.

I just felt that I should say that, in case any Jews read this.


Well you should not say that- for as a person who is part Jewish and looks very much like a Jew- I can say to you that Jews have committed some of the worst crimes in history and will have to be responsible for them someday. Heck, for example, even Christopher Columbus was half Portuguese and half Jewish and is believed to have been a cripto-Jew, and he is often blamed for causing "the genocide against the poor Native-Americans." Believe me, there is a lot to be guilty for- if you want to know some just look at my above post.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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Now see, I didn't know most of that. I had forgotten about the Rothschilds. And something I would like to know is the people in charge, Jews and non-Jews alike, what makes them think THEY are better than the rest of us?



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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The actual Jews were living peacefully enough in Palestine before the so-called Jews came from Europe before, during, and after World War II. The European Jews were not really the people we think of in the Bible, but were mostly the descendants of the Khazars who were a Caucasian people who found themselves between the Turks and the Western Christians, and saw how they could make a lot of money making loans to both sides, by proclaiming themselves Jews, to make themselves exempt from the usury restrictions built into those other two religions. These newly minted Jews, did not get along with the Arabs they found already living there, in Palestine when they came there to claim the land that they thought they could convince enough people in power, was theirs by divine edict, of course a promise make to a completely different people.
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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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Not tryin' to sound like an ass, but do you have any sources for that claim? Just curious.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Not tryin' to sound like an ass, but do you have any sources for that claim? Just curious.
You just need to ask yourself what your senses tell you. Look at it objectively and realize that what is passed off as official history is a lot of well constructed lies. As an example, this is something I heard today, that the Magna Carta that is presented to Americans is a redacted version, by request of the (so-called) Jews because they consider it to be anti-emetic, talking about the burdens of usury perpetrated by these people historically.It's just the way they are, they use the influence they have to enforce the destruction of the documentation of their crimes and their real past.
If you want to know the truth, I could suggest you start by going to Barry Chamish's web site and doing some reading. You also need to learn what a Sabbataian Jew is. It has nothing to do with the Sabbath but a man name Sabbateis who claimed to be the Messiah to lead the Jews to take over the world for Lucifer.


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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 10:26 PM
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Well the reason I asked was because you kinda came off Anti-Semitic.



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