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Originally posted by smurfy
The officer was arrested five hours later, then released on bail?? It seems also that the indictment is second degree murder, where did that come from? he should have been off the force anyway if his prior act of planting evidence in another unrelated incident is true. So let me get this straight, in America if you are law enforcement and you kill someone who is unarmed, and having been eyeballed doing it, you get bail. Your officers union goes into automatic, and has a fund raising Barby 'cos you got the sack. No thanks America it's soo in your face stuff.edit on 16-6-2011 by smurfy because: Text.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition is an international organization of criminal justice professionals who bear personal witness to the wasteful futility and harms of our current drug policies. Our experience on the front lines of the “war on drugs” has led us to call for a repeal of prohibition and its replacement with a tight system of legalized regulation, which will effectively cripple the violent cartels and street dealers who control the current illegal market.
Face with the argument that alcohol is easier to serve with dinner than heroin, group members said that they were not advocating drug use—but rather wanted to regulate the products and limited the doses.
“That’s exactly what the Women’s Organization for National Prohibition reform said about alcohol prohibition in the 1920’s,” said LEAP member Richard Van Wickler, a warden in New Hampshire. “Life and prosperity went on. Alcohol was regulated, controlled and it was taxed. Everybody won except the gangsters.”
“And the terrible evils that were said to occur, like the epidemic of alcoholism—didn’t.”
Originally posted by AGWskeptic
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by OneNationUnder
Well I write at least a letter/email a day to our representatives, or to officials etc. Am I really that rare? Or is it they just couldn't care less what we think?
Nobody pays much attention to the little dogs that bark all day long.
Only when a big dog barks do they really pay attention.
Probably because I am not a coward, and don't agree with a lot of the cases where it is deemed "justifiable force".
Police carry batons for a reason, and it isn't decoration.
Yet many times they fall back on lethal force, never even try a non lethal avenue.
Most of the time when I see a video of a cop using a tazer or a baton, it is after they are already on the ground, or already cuffed where they pose no threat at all. Or a little kid, or some little old lady. Straight up cowards.
The union guy's statement "We're standing behind our officer" is one of the big problems with all of the police brutality that occurs. The cops know they can get away with it because the union thugs will cover for them. They need to be held accountable but they aren't.
Unfortunately it takes a tragedy like this to trump whatever sway the union has to get a bad cop charged. I can't believe the union is standing behind this criminal when his own partner is washing his hands of him.
I now hate every single policeman there is. They are all dirty scum.
Also, why are they (the police) allowed to investigate themselves? If I committed a crime, the court would not be filled with my friends and co-workers would it?
There should be an independent panel not affiliated with the police to investigate these killings. Maybe it would slow them down a little.
Just because they are police officers on the same department does not necessary mean they are friends or even know each other. You are correct, the jury would be filled with your "peers" or people who are like you and come from your community. The average person does not know what it is like to be a police officer and do the job.
Originally posted by areyouserious2010
reply to post by Fractured.Facade
Please, do not take an event, put your own spin on it and post it here as fact.
Oscar Grant was resisting lawful arrest and still had his hand underneath of his body and was refusing to give it to the police. The officer decided to draw his tazer and use it. Instead, he made the mistake of drawing his weapon and pulling the trigger.
The officer was correctly convicted of involuntary manslaughter because a court deemed he did not have the intention of killing him. The court did deem that his amount of negligence was criminal and he was sentenced to two years. In California, all convicts are credited one day for every day of good behavior which is why he was released after 11 months.
What I really don't understand.... If the good cops out there supposedly outnumber the few bad seeds like some would have us believe, than why don't the good cops band together to expel the bad ones?
Originally posted by areyouserious2010
reply to post by donkeystyle
Taking this story at face value is rediculous. What I have learned is that there are two sides to the story and usually, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
It's amazing when some people will try to find anyway to avoid a horrible truth whenever law enforcement are involved, or worse seek some way to defend brutality and murder.
This kind of stuff happens daily, very little of it gets reported.... IF this cop's partner had not said what he did, then this one too would have been quickly shoved off of the books, and may have never gotten any press coverage at all.
In my opinion, less than 5% of the cases of brutality, corruption and murders perpetrated by rogue and corrupt law enforcement officers ever get reported.