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Originally posted by dolphinfan
Did you know that doctors pay no taxes in Greece? They were able to pressure the government for that law. Did you know that you don't pay property taxes in Greece on a property until it is 100% completed? Its true and thats why all over Greece you will see homes with cinder block front porches. House has been built for decades, but they just never got around to put the front porch in. The Greeks have made a science out of paying no taxes and living off the state. At some point the thing has to implode on itself.
As far as the Eurozone, most Greeks would rather be out of the Eurozone. Anything that keeps rich Europeans (particularily Russians) from coming in and buying property is a good thing as far as they're concerned.edit on 15-6-2011 by dolphinfan because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EverydayNormalGuy
NWO is happening right now,we'll see more events such as this,I hate government but they are not stupid,they know that by pushing people there will be riots and people will have enough,people will eventually remove government and what will happen next? - instead of rulers, 100+ politics in every country there will be just one Global Government and we ''the people'' will be the tool.
Don't know for sure but it's just how I see it
Originally posted by lightyears
reply to post by TribeOfManyColours
And the other European countries pay for it. They first paid to bail Greece out. And every day when nobody works in Greece, the costs will ultimately will also be paid by other countries. Stop the endless loans.
All of this changed quickly when European leaders unveiled the permanent bailout mechanism making clear that starting in 2013 the private sector will assume a large share of the future bailout costs. After the announcement, investors sold their holding of Portuguese and Spanish debt en masse, sending the cost of funding debt in these countries higher, and fueling rather than preventing a contagion.
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by TribeOfManyColours
It looks like they are just about ready for the - new deal -.
OK, fine. We will give you all the money you want but only if you accept the Mark of the Beast 666.
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I'm guessing 90% of the protesters will say...............Yes!
Originally posted by nightbringr
Originally posted by EverydayNormalGuy
NWO is happening right now,we'll see more events such as this,I hate government but they are not stupid,they know that by pushing people there will be riots and people will have enough,people will eventually remove government and what will happen next? - instead of rulers, 100+ politics in every country there will be just one Global Government and we ''the people'' will be the tool.
Don't know for sure but it's just how I see it
Its the people that caused this.
The government is pressured by people, namely these street thugs rioting and endangering lives to continue providing social programs that allow them to sit on their asses all day doing nothing. When enough political pressure is applied, the government caves into the peoples demands.
Social welfare pays people to sit around doing nothing. They suckle at the teats, taking money for nothing while the economy stagnates and eventually collapses. Rampant socalism and fiscal irresponsibility are to blame.
There is not great NWO conspiracy here, just gross mismanagement. Some is to blame on the government for not having stronger backbones, most is to blame on the people who think they are entitled to monthy social assistance cheques while doing nothing to contribute to society or the economy as a whole.
If the government give in to people, they WILL default and it might cause a domino effect destroying the European economy as a whole.
Originally posted by Macdon
Originally posted by dolphinfan
Did you know that doctors pay no taxes in Greece? They were able to pressure the government for that law. Did you know that you don't pay property taxes in Greece on a property until it is 100% completed? Its true and thats why all over Greece you will see homes with cinder block front porches. House has been built for decades, but they just never got around to put the front porch in. The Greeks have made a science out of paying no taxes and living off the state. At some point the thing has to implode on itself.
As far as the Eurozone, most Greeks would rather be out of the Eurozone. Anything that keeps rich Europeans (particularily Russians) from coming in and buying property is a good thing as far as they're concerned.edit on 15-6-2011 by dolphinfan because: (no reason given)
Why is paying taxes a good thing? It’s a bad thing. You’re only paying them to the Illuminati scum to use them against your interests.
If Greeks pay no tax as you say, why has this trouble hit them only now? The UK owes 466% of GDP where as Greece owes 150%. The USA owes over 4 times per capita what Greeks owe. Yet these countries pay tax, right?
Screw taxation. The Americans fought a war with the British over it in 1776.
If you ask me how to pay for medical care and road works and other amenities, I’ll tell you there are many ways other than tax – toll ways, private health insurance that is government owned – not private, no way private. I work for such a company in Australia – a government insurance scheme for injured workers. We cater for 5 million people’s medical costs, lost wages and other work related financial burdens and yet make over $600 million profit for the government annually.
One more time – SCREW TAX! It’s communism and tyrannical anyway.
Originally posted by cerebralassassins
Lets see how well the euro will do if and when Greece decides to pull out of the euro currency fall back on the drach, sure it will take a massive blow but hey, at least you wont be under the thumb of the bank cartel and some central euro guy has no vested interest in your nation other than to milk you dry.
Originally posted by nightbringr
Originally posted by cerebralassassins
Lets see how well the euro will do if and when Greece decides to pull out of the euro currency fall back on the drach, sure it will take a massive blow but hey, at least you wont be under the thumb of the bank cartel and some central euro guy has no vested interest in your nation other than to milk you dry.
Sorry for the multiple posts but i had to respond specifically to this last line.
Yes, if they pulled out and defaulted it would solve their problems for about 1 hour.
So, Greece now has no debt load, and relies on their own banks alone. Great! Sounds good, but this does not solve the fact the government is running massive deficits to pay for the social programs people are rioting over.
Now, not being able to go the the IMF for more loans, the only options they have are these:
1. Balance the budget in 1 year. This will prevent them from doing their only other option, print money.
2. Print money to pay for the social programs. This creates massive, runaway inflation, especially in a country with an economy as small as Greeces.
They are screwed. Their ONLY choice is make very tough cutbacks that will not be popular. Many people are going to have to get off their asses and actually become productive.
Originally posted by wycky
Is it safe to head to Greece?
I am heading there tomorrow night .