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What the hell is wrong with the British government?

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posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 07:24 AM
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If you care to notice my friend I accorded blame on ALL recent PM's and our current Monarch.
My point was that far too many apportion blame to the current administration and the previous Labour government; the failings go much further and far deeper.
Any criticism of Thatcher is almost deemed heresy in some quarters and we are indeed still paying the price for many of her policies.
Yet I suspect that may be more worthy of a more in depth discussion in another thread specifcally discussing her, her policies and their ramifications.

And as you should no doubt be aware if you have read any of my previous posts I am a firm advocate of urgent Parliamentary and electoral reform doing away with our outdated, unrepresentative and failed party political systems and procedures.
Until such time the cares, concerns and interests of the people of this country will never be the primary concern of those that govern us.




posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 07:58 AM
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Nothing wrong with them, well, nothing unexpected. Just your average torie government in action.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:05 AM
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We should never have got militarily involved in Libya in the first place. It is a civl war that has been in the planning for some time now by Libyan exiles (many of whom including their leader Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi are CIA men), and we have placed ourselves right in the middle of it.

However If are governments are going to insist on settling crises with our military then they have to invest in it. Simple.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:13 AM
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It's a shame that a big part of our history is now essentially scrap metal I'll admit, but foreign invasion is not something we should aspire to in the 21st century, cooperation is infinitely more reliable than confrontation.

Current military spending is unfortunately more focused on giving us the ability to wage war around the world, something we should be avoiding at all costs.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:29 AM
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They shouldn't be there anyway, get them out as quick as possible! It's costing the British tax payer millions for this crap. Most of us are struggling to feed ourselves.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by JohnLennon
They shouldn't be there anyway, get them out as quick as possible! It's costing the British tax payer millions for this crap. Most of us are struggling to feed ourselves.


I totally agree with you.
We shouldn`t be in Liybya.
Same with Iraq and Afghanistan.
Bring them home.
The ones who mastermind these wars are far from danger.
The troops, personnel and civilians are the ones who suffer.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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i agree that our once great nation has become week and was shocked to hear that we were scrapping our aircraft carriers and our harriers and i find the timing to be highly suspect esp with all the other stuff going on.
as for an invasion that is very unlikely we as a nation we have the greatest biological weapons on the planet and the means to hit any target in the world.

we need to become a self sufficient island as we have been throughout recent history get our farmers producing again,restart our steel industries,start building stuff for ourself s instead of importing it in from abroad.
cut our ties to Europe because they are bleeding us dry.
until this happens we will become weaker and weaker.we need to change now while we still can .



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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The British government is doing the things it said it would do. The British government is run by career politicians who only care about being elected and have little real knowledge or ability. It does not take wisdom or intelligence to succeed in politics only money, ego and charisma. No government will actually do any different until they think its an issue voters care about.

The question is, why don't people care about defense policy and its mismanagement? Why don't they care how far the services have shrunk since the 1980s? Why don't they care how little value for money the procurement bureaucracy provides for what is spent?

Its the media. They are incompetent when it comes to defense matters. Truly incompetent, with only Janes and some small trade publications being excepted from that.

With such incompetence its all too easy to spray the bull# hose and cloud the issue with jargon.

As a result the majority are completely ignorant.

The situation will continue until we suffer national humiliation somewhere down the road. Its inevitable. You do more with less until you are left attempting the impossible with nothing.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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"It's called treason", as someone said here, and it's also called "The Frankfurt Subversion", standard Marxist/Fabian/EU/NWO/luciferian techniques for destroying the target country.

Frankfurt Subversion Techniques

- Creating political correctness and racialism offences
- Teaching sex and homosexuality to children
- Encouraging crime to destabilize society
- Undermining of schools and teachers' authority
- Mass immigration to destroy national identity
- Corruption of the courts
- Emptying the churches
- Weakening the armed forces by cuts and pointless wars
- Creating trauma through injustice
- Encouraging dependency on the state for benefits
- Control and dumbing down of the media and television
- Creating confusion through continual change
- Attack on fathers and the breakdown of the family
- Child stealing by the state
- Closing down pubs as centres of communities
- Promotion of drugs and binge-drinking outside pubs
- Destroying the economy by selling all industries to foreign companies
- Abolishing private property by seizing homes through foreclosures
- Encouraging Islam to frighten and subdue the population



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 04:30 PM
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Until the British people rise up and denounce the royal family for the colossal waste of money and embarrassment that they are, I will refuse to take them seriously.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Our current monarch, like every PM over the last 40 odd years, is, or has been, guilty of Treason for surrendering Sovereignty to foreign powers.

But I wonder why The Royal Family as a whole are the focus for your disgust and exactly what is your reasoning?

And you talk of being taken seriously?
That's a bit rich coming from a country that elected G.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter amongst other's.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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uk n us are so wrapped up in saving the world that they cant see its are own countrys that need sorting out


charity starts at home so stop giving help to countrys that dont wana help themselves!!



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Vanishr
In response to the thread title, Our last 3 PM's including our current one, are NWO puppets, do you expect any different ?

And how does the action of severely cutting back on military capability tie in with an NWO conspiracy? Surely it is the other way round ie increased military. Well it is on other threads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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What is even more embarrasing is when a nations people is given the opportunity to elect their leader and they still pick a dead dog. At least the UK has history and a unique sense of empathy to those lesser off around our lonely planrt.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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upload.wikimedia.org...

British Fleet sailing to Galipoli in WW1. It had 1500 active battleships at that time. Look at it now.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 06:12 PM
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So why did so many people vote NO to the voting reform, it wasn't ideal but it would have worked, I do think that it wasnt explained thoroughly enough though as if nobody could be bothered to fully go through how it worked.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Makes one really wonder how in the Hell the Royals do it! How much was that wedding? How much is 2012 Olympics costing to reproduce Zion?

I would call the Queen and say, "Woman it is done!" time to pack your royal butt back to Germany where your family belongs!


Sorry if that offends, but it does offend me! Royal jelly can make a Queen bee, but the UK is not a Hive!

Time for the AC to get the crown before it is too late!



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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Perhaps this has something to do with these fellows being built www.royalnavy.mod.uk...
The ship is part of history however would not really be a crowd raisers like say the Queen Mary or other historic ships. If it was docked somewhere and was costing the tax payer x amount a year you lot would be on bitching about why it couldent be scrapped or sold



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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i agree and just for the record i voted for the change and i feel its a real shame that many others did not do the same.
We need to regain control of our country we need to write our own policy's again we fought 2 world wars to keep our independence and now we are heading towards Hitler's dream of one world government.
there was a good reason why obama went to Germany when he was campaigning on his way to the white house and the place he gave his speech history repeating itself.
We are powerless because we have become a nation of [lets not rock the boat] take it on the chin old chap.
We need to wake up after all the people should not be afraid of its government the government should be afriad of its people time to find your voice.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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nice link but the point still remains that we will not have an aircraft carrier in service instead we shall share one with France and do you believe that this is the way we should go after all WW2 showed us that the aircraft carrier is without doubt the greatest ship in any navy fleet and you can have as many destroyers as you like but without the carrier your fleet is weak.




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