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Originally posted by HarmonicNights
reply to post by GoldenObserver
Have you read any of the other content? If so, anything interesting? I've always wondered what the true purpose of Freemasonry is. I've heard many conflicting stories from men claiming to be Freemasons, so I don't know for sure. I'm hesitant to buy into the theory that they're some sort of Satanic or NWO organization, but there must be something to why they're so secretive.
S&F
Originally posted by HarmonicNights
but there must be something to why they're so secretive.
It's not that black & white. Many people get the label of good by default, simply because they haven't actively done something bad. But it's really a sliding scale, isn't it? Sometimes I may be feeling generous, sometimes I may act selfishly.
Originally posted by pepsi78
reply to post by Taurean27
You can't make good men better, they are already good. There are bad people and good people and that is it.
No, it is not. Masonry makes me better than myself, not better than you. The tools in Masonry are for self-improvement. If I learn to be a better father, a better neighbor, a better husband, or a better citizen through some of the moral allegories in Masonry, then the only thing I have any right to compare myself to is how I used to be before I applied those lessons.
Also by stating this that masonry makes good people better, you insist that masons are better than other people and view their personal self higher than normal class people, above as in better.
Masons are better than the rest, this is your affirmation by stating this.
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
It's sad this thread fell apart and the contents didn't get posted.
But if anyone is really interested a google search will turn up a copy of every popular Masonic publication for download in PDF format and also many that are not so popular shall I say.There are even non Masonic books written on their contents and masonic whistle blowers who after many years of being a member, got fed up and leaked information and explanations of rites and rituals.
It's all out there you just have to know how to search for it. I want this to be known because I don't agree with anything kept secret that people fear. If there was not an air of fear about the subject or the Masons didn't try to hide anything then it probably would not matter.
Originally posted by whenandwhere
We simply can not tell you certain things ,
but Masons on here time and again have pointed out where to purchase and download these books you wanted posted on here . Does not seem like they are hiding anything now does it ?
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by pepsi78
Yes you can make good men better, because nobody is perfect. If we aren't perfect, then we still have room for improvement.
As for Masons being "better" than everyone else, ... In my experience Masons ARE better ..
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by DRAZIW
There are exceptions in every group. We are talking about generalities.
We have a lot of bad doctors in Florida, does that mean we should outlaw all doctors?
Originally posted by DRAZIW
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by pepsi78
Yes you can make good men better, because nobody is perfect. If we aren't perfect, then we still have room for improvement.
As for Masons being "better" than everyone else, ... In my experience Masons ARE better ..
Yes, I agree. This guy is definitely better than everyone else !
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Originally posted by fordrew
Originally posted by DRAZIW
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by pepsi78
Yes you can make good men better, because nobody is perfect. If we aren't perfect, then we still have room for improvement.
As for Masons being "better" than everyone else, ... In my experience Masons ARE better ..
Yes, I agree. This guy is definitely better than everyone else !
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You sound like a bad troll. Its best that you leave. If you are not joking around, I feel very very sorry for you.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by DRAZIW
LOL!
OK, sarcasm noted, but how is that any different than a University? A University makes people smarter, and more educated, and more equipped to outwit the cops.
That guy is still an exception, and there are 100s of 1000s of Masons that would have loved to have foiled his plans.
Michael Vick ran a dog-fighting scheme, and he got away with it for awhile, and he was one of the best players in the NFL. Should we assume all NFL players are criminals, and they all get away with it because they are NFL players?
You cannot draw out a single exception and paint the whole fraternity with it.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by DRAZIW
HE chose to do those things. He is an exception. He is probably mentally ill.
But, I can guarantee that no mason would publicly accept Hitler as a Freemason. And even if some verifiable records exist, proving his membership, masons would immediately say he was "not in his heart" a mason.