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reply posted on 15-6-2011 @ 10:55 AM by boncho
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Ok so earlier I was reading alot on here about anonymous being govt/cia whatever... After watching this video I would have to deny any of those claims...They suggest getting your green thumb with gardening, being self reliant, moving away from FIAT currency and moving to precious metals... Which is everything I stand for, and have been working towards myself...


So in other words you are saying that it is beyond the intelligence community to provoke malcontent and uprisings throughout people that are willing to listen to a message.


reply posted on 15-6-2011 @ 11:02 AM by PheonixOD
I agree with everything that Anonymous is saying but im starting to get slightly suspicious of their intentions. I am now finding myself thinking is Anonymous a false flag operation ?

Their demands are far to unrealistic, there is no way they are going to overthrow the rich elite through repeated attacks over the Internet. As far as i can see the end result of their actions will be a complete lockdown of the Internet and an end to the free flow of information. This is exactly what the rich elite have been wanting for years. Up until now the government have not been able to lock down the net because everything that goes on is down to individual users but this could all change if an organized group started making serious trouble for everyone. Im saying "lock down" and "not shut down" theres no way the powers that be could turn off the Net without the whole world going crazy but they could be forced into seriously regulating what people do and how they do it.

With "Anonymous" making serious waves then anyone who seeks to be anonymous on the web will be instantly demonized. It is a classic false flag technique that has been used for 1000's of years dating right to back to Roman times when Nero demonized the Christians . The clever thing about sophisticated false flag operations is that most of the people taking part in them don't understand the true motives behind the groups actions.

Think about it , you were the government and wanted to shut down the free flow of info on the net how would you do it?

- Start up a group of hackers.
- Give the group a name so that everyone associated with it would be demonized by membership alone.
- Make that group famous.
- Start with low level attacks that make the group popular to gain support and membership so that 99.9 % of the people who are a part of it realy think they are working for the good of the people.
- Publicize future attacks so the world knows who to blame when they happen.
- Start to scale up the attacks to the point where the government HAS to do something about it once and forall.

As far as i can see this is standard false flag procedure. I dont want to stop them but i am worried we are all being very short sighted here. History has a lot of valuable lessons to teach us , we all have to understand the logical conclusions of these actions. I really hope i am totaly wrong but as intelligent people these are questions we need to be asking.
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reply posted on 15-6-2011 @ 11:06 AM by Perfectenemy
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But you forgot one little thing. If they shut down the internet there would be riots in the streets and could easily lead into a civil war.


reply posted on 15-6-2011 @ 11:06 AM by boncho
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You summed it up perfectly. Everything has a beginning and an end and this has only one place to go. History teaches us this.




reply posted on 15-6-2011 @ 11:08 AM by boncho
Originally posted by Perfectenemy
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But you forgot one little thing. If they shut down the internet there would be riots in the streets and could easily lead into a civil war.




Why because people don't get to play WOW or Everquest Online?

The poster was not talking about a complete shut down of the net, I think they are referring to a tightly controlled web. Which, if you look in the right place right now, is on the horizon.


reply posted on 15-6-2011 @ 11:12 AM by Perfectenemy
Originally posted by boncho
Originally posted by Perfectenemy
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But you forgot one little thing. If they shut down the internet there would be riots in the streets and could easily lead into a civil war.




Why because people don't get to play WOW or Everquest Online?

The poster was not talking about a complete shut down of the net, I think they are referring to a tightly controlled web. Which, if you look in the right place right now, is on the horizon.


You are really underestimating desperate people. Let me rephrase my sentence. There could be riots and civil unrest in the streets. I´m curious how all of this is going to unfold and just observe.


reply posted on 15-6-2011 @ 11:14 AM by Session13
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This is how every rebellion begins, with a few people standing up and leading the way. The next part is the most important however, the strong need to stand up and follow. If they don't then the weary and down trodden will never rise up. Hopefully we'll get some of that "change" Obama promised out of this whole deal.


reply posted on 15-6-2011 @ 11:17 AM by morder1
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If thats what they want, then im sure they will get it...

Like I said earlier... I havent gone to the website mentioned in the video, I dont need another outlet to talk about stuff on, I have ATS for that... I posted because I liked the message in the video, if it has some backwards purpose, then that is beyond my control


reply posted on 15-6-2011 @ 11:37 AM by boncho
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You are really underestimating desperate people. Let me rephrase my sentence. There could be riots and civil unrest in the streets. I´m curious how all of this is going to unfold and just observe.




If there is, then it is by design.

I'm still not sure how riots would happen over legislative changes to cyber laws though. Most people don't even notice new bills pass. It takes about 5 to 10 years before people start noticing the effects.

Look at:

-The deregulation of banks circa '00 (Housing Market Crash '06),
-Just about every War (+5 years)
-Minimum Mandatory Sentences [drug wars]... California having 40,000 prisoners without room for them...(Decades later realized)

The list goes on and on.

And all this "TPTB" nonsense does is confuse people, making people believe someone is going to knock on your door, take your guns, your kids and tell you your not allowed to travel. It deflects from the subtle changes that actually do take place.
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