ANONYMOUS: "The Plan" is now live. Phase 1: Initiated. War against the System

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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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reply to post by Forevever
 





it really is warez wars all over again - Lulzsec VS Anonymous


Not exactly, LulzSec was born from the Anonymous collective.

They seem to have decided to do a "Marvel Team-Up" sort of thing, as well.

LulzSec teams up with Anonymous

We encourage any vessel, large or small, to open fire on any government or agency that crosses their path. We fully endorse the flaunting of the word "AntiSec" on any government website defacement or physical graffiti art. ... To increase efforts, we are now teaming up with the Anonymous collective and all affiliated battleships.


Calling this effort a marriage would not exactly be correct; it's believed that many members of LulzSec are already also tied to Anonymous. Yet the motives of each group seems different.


On Monday, LulzSec and Anonymous made fast work, claiming credit for a denial-of-service attack that took down the website of the British police Serious Organized Crime Agency (SOCA), which targets organized crime in Britain and overseas.


Of course, this must also be some sort of under-handed sneaky snake move by some group pretending to be them all the while they're really CIA or some other boogieman of choice (This previous statement is in reality dripping with sarcasm)

Seems to me that even LulzSec is evolving as Anon has already done, Game On!

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Well gold/silver can't be sold over the counter after July 15th.


Well that depends on your definition of "Over the Counter", if you believe that it is similar to OTC Drugs, then that is not true.

If you understand that "Over the Counter" in the trading market means cutting out an exchange and the trade is done between 2 parties, then that is true, but the implication you have laid is misleading.


Over-the-counter (OTC) or off-exchange trading is to trade financial instruments such as stocks, bonds, commodities or derivatives directly between two parties. It is contrasted with exchange trading, which occurs via facilities constructed for the purpose of trading (i.e., exchanges), such as futures exchanges or stock exchanges.
Wiki

The Dodd-Frank bill is not a comeback of the Executive Order 6102, it's an attempt to restrict the speculators that are driving the prices to unheard of amounts and to actually make sure that the Gold/Silver has a physical backing.


This does not curtail any on-exchange trading, such as the CME, or any ETFs, or any other product with a leverage of less than 10:1 or actually involving substantial physical backing or intended delivery of product within 28 days.
Source or read up on it on this ATS thread Gold/Silver OTC trading illegal for US residents after July 15, 2011?

reply to post by TinfoilTP
 




I don't feel sorry for your type when they are in the soup line because with that attitude I just know they spend their govt handout foodstamps on booze and drugs and mope around feeling sorry for themselves instead of learning a skill to get work.

You just know that? How do you know that?


Section 3 (k) of the same Act defines 'food' in this way, "FOOD means (1) any food or food product for home consumption except alcoholic beverages, tobacco, and hot foods or hot food products ready for immediate consumption
Source

And as far as drugs, since foodstamps are now on debit cards, I guess maybe if the dealer had setup a debit machine that recognizes EBT benefits, but that requires going through the state government to establish that and a drug dealer would most likely not be approved to conduct those transactions.

You are entitled to disdain your fellow citizens for falling on hard times, but make sure your reasons are factual at least.

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EXCELLENT post. You are my 'ATS member of the day'. Not that anyone cares who I rate as writing cool stuff, but there we go.


Well I care and thank you Fly!




posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 04:24 AM
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You are not anonymous anymore. What a freakin joke


Of course i am anonymous

Do you know mt name ?

nope

Do you know how i look like ?

nope

Do you even know where i live?

Double nope

And i doubt anyone here on ATS could figure it out

so.....im anonymous





I am still laughing. I don't feel sorry for your type when they are in the soup line because with that attitude I just know they spend their govt handout foodstamps on booze and drugs and mope around feeling sorry for themselves instead of learning a skill to get work. At least these illegal hacksters are scraping the bottom of the barrel for their sheeple followers, they can go down with them and the world will be a cleaner place.




You mad bro ?

no, seriously..... you have nothing better or a more constructed point of view ?


But i understand your hatred toward us, not everyones can do what we do


I doubt someone like you could even understand, Dear sheeple sheperd.

But dont you think it require to be intelligent to be a sheep ?

Ah, we need more peoples like you, it create such interesting contrasts, it create so many possibilities.

Anyways, you may need more time to understand (or not)
edit on 21-6-2011 by Conciliatore because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 07:49 AM
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Lulsec and Anonymous joined forces together to bring the system down? I guess that´s a good thing huh? I´m really curious what happens next.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by Perfectenemy
Lulsec and Anonymous joined forces together to bring the system down? I guess that´s a good thing huh? I´m really curious what happens next.


All you are going to see is them turning each other in after each arrest is made. They have no balls for life on the outside when they try to hide behind masks, they sure don't have the balls to be behind bars where the real bad guys are. So much fresh meat the prison populations must be stocking up on illegal viagra in anticipation.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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You folks should have listened to me
and my investigation results on page 20
of this thread posted 1 week ago today.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I explained in that thread my deductions that the Anon video
was filmed in England in a tunnel that had been flooded.
I even showed images of this. Nobody cared.
Well you might want to care.

www.bbc.co.uk...

19 yr old hacker from Wickford, Essex England
just south of London has been arrested in connection
with Anon.

That whole area was flooded in 1958

www.jrc-websites.co.uk...

including roads and tunnels.

Who says we don't investigate on ATS ???
lol




posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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it would appear they arrested the guy in the anon video.
well so much for phase 2



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
it would appear they arrested the guy in the anon video.
well so much for phase 2


I guess he went from hero to zero in a matter of a few days. That must have been the easiest investigation of all time. Even deranged lunatic psychopaths manage to stay on the lamb longer than that.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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Time will tell.....

From this....... www.chronicle.su...

Ryan Cleary is not what he seems....

but who knows eh?



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by truetrigger
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

Time will tell.....
From this....... www.chronicle.su...
Ryan Cleary is not what he seems....
but who knows eh?


yea, who knows

from your link


At some point, a character known only as “Ryan Cleary” began to participate in the administration of AnonOps. He played the part of a young, resourceful hacker with the realistic fault of a hot temper. Most Anons believe Ryan infiltrated Anonymous either for a corporate entity, a criminal organization, or the Federal Government.


hmmmmm, Federal Government eh ???

that's what I said in my other Anon and Lulz posts on ATS.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by NellahB
reply to post by Amaterasu
 

As far as the aliens, I believe they are demonic.


I am not one for believing in "demons." I do believe there is plenty of life in the universe, however, and wouldn't put it past some to SAY They are demons. Offer the world, make up a whole "satanic" thing so as to motivate some Humans to control the rest of the sheep, without compassion, all for personal gain.

I believe all the elite are duped in Their "Luciferian" activities (I mean I read one Guy's comments about how these Beings are "real," and how He knows this because He saw paintings that were "from photographs" (which He didn't see). How duped is that?

But I am sure Our different viewpoints are not an issue overall. It is what it is, eh?



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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Anonymous claimed responsibility
for the hack on Sony via their web site.
But it was LulzSecurity who posted
the contents retrieved during that hack.


It's unclear whether LulzSec members played a role in the Sony PlayStation Network breach.

But they have posted on their website what they claim is proprietary information from Sony Pictures and other Sony properties' websites.


www.cnn.com...



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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I have read some but not all of this thread.

What I want to know is, is it safe to visit the website referenced in the oprigina post's youtube clip? Or will my computer be turned into some kind of infected zombie bot nest?

Thanks in advance.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."

- Martin Luther King, Jr.

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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 01:58 AM
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I don't have a playstation so I missed the revolution. I'll tune back in when the politicians push to better police the internet.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by Conciliatore
reply to post by TinfoilTP
 






You are not anonymous anymore. What a freakin joke


Of course i am anonymous

Do you know mt name ?

nope

Do you know how i look like ?

nope

Do you even know where i live?

Double nope

And i doubt anyone here on ATS could figure it out

so.....im anonymous





I am still laughing. I don't feel sorry for your type when they are in the soup line because with that attitude I just know they spend their govt handout foodstamps on booze and drugs and mope around feeling sorry for themselves instead of learning a skill to get work. At least these illegal hacksters are scraping the bottom of the barrel for their sheeple followers, they can go down with them and the world will be a cleaner place.




You mad bro ?

no, seriously..... you have nothing better or a more constructed point of view ?


But i understand your hatred toward us, not everyones can do what we do


I doubt someone like you could even understand, Dear sheeple sheperd.

But dont you think it require to be intelligent to be a sheep ?

Ah, we need more peoples like you, it create such interesting contrasts, it create so many possibilities.

Anyways, you may need more time to understand (or not)
edit on 21-6-2011 by Conciliatore because: (no reason given)


Yeah, we need a few brain-dead zombies to remind us that we are on the right path to de-tox our bodies of POISONS and JUNK and to detox our MINDS of this corrupt illusion people call authority



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 05:24 AM
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The SYSTEM needs no war against it!

It is sick and corrupt of its own accord!

In the fullness of time it will fall like a sick diseased treetrunk of its own accord! And how we shall celebrate!



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by Partygirl
The SYSTEM needs no war against it!

It is sick and corrupt of its own accord!

In the fullness of time it will fall like a sick diseased treetrunk of its own accord! And how we shall celebrate!


Corruption isn´t a problem of our time it reaches far back in history. It was always there just look at good old Rome when they nearly conquered half of the world. Can we really afford to wait any longer to change that or do we just sit back and let the desease spread further and further? I´m glad i can´t be bought with money because i see what money really is. It´s just a currency and has no real value to me. I´m not poor but i don´t have the urge to buy 10 cars or houses to feel better about myself. But if you´re going to strip those things from the rich and famous i guarantee you they won´t let that happen and just watch. Money owns people,governments and the world and not the other way around. Even if a person would just now knock on my door to offer me 1 million euros i would send them away because money corrupts people and that´s why the corrupted system still works in a kind of twisted way and face it most people are afraid that there daily routine gets interrupted.

Inventing a currency that has no real value at all was a huge mistake and without it we would be better off but that´s just me. I guess we need a earth shattering event to wake the people up but if this events takes place it will be already to late.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 01:12 AM
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Look what I just found on anonymous forum website:




This Is NOT a CONSPIRACY WEBSITE. - It's an Objective Research and Action Website this website is dedicated to those who want to fight totalitarian and authoritarian governments and remove the shadow of oppression from society. it is not dedicated to stupid # like the illuminati (fun fact: their already dead so shut up) or space jews or underground reptilions from the planet uranus trying to steal our women. take that crap back to Above Top Secret, we dont want it! (Topic edited by Fighter From a Distance, because this is very important to clarify.)


www.whatis-theplan.org...


Not only are they saying ATS is full of crap, as they are making very clear what they are standing for.



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 01:41 AM
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Yea, it sometimes feels like we're too against each other around here to do any good.
edit on 24-6-2011 by gentledissident because: why am I still up?



posted on Jun, 24 2011 @ 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by nwobrazil
Look what I just found on anonymous forum website:
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www.whatis-theplan.org...


Not only are they saying ATS is full of crap, as they are making very clear what they are standing for.



I just noticed that the thread was actually pretty long, look what more they say there:




Complete Agree. I wrote this in another thread The conspiracy theorists amongst us will bring this movement to its knees. People who believe in that crap are afraid of action and the real problems in the world which they can do something about. It is much easier to blame an faceless illuminati for the ills of the world than your own government and your beloved Wallmart or Barclays Bank which you do have the power to bring down. To be honest I seepeople who believe in the majority of conspiracies simply as those who are weak and run from their problems.





well said, i think we need some mods to get rid of these members. their posts are not productive to the cause and are irrelvant to anything. /quote] Problem with that is that it is censorship and we are fundamentally for the freedom of information and speech so we should never delete an article. We should however make a /b/ area specifically for conspiracy theorists to share their views, so the rest of us can get on with REAL problems in the world.





they will get tired of hanging around when we don't buy some of the more crazier stuff they pull out and if not, it's their right to rave on what they believe... anons come from all walks of life and some are nuttier than others. Once the forum community gets larger they will be drowned out by OP's.




We're only giving them what they want by making more threads about this. If they're ignored, they'll get bored and go to abovetopsecret. I don't want to hear about how #ed up you think the world is. I want to hear solutions.





They are more than entitled to their opinions and I think we should have a section of the forum specifically for that sort of discussion. We don't have to berate them to make them leave...that only makes us look bad. Just ignore them. The Plan isn't about what they believe but what we all agree on. Those who don't yet understand that will get bored and leave to go find some people who want to talk about it or will catch on.





No one is saying that the establishment doesn't keep secrets. Obviously they do. Otherwise there would be no need for transparency and no need for Anonymous. What we're saying is that paranoid, poorly concieved, uneducated, and 90% speculative theories don't have a place in rational discussion. There may be an illuminati, but it doesn't really matter. Focus on the evident abuses and stop fighting ghosts. Besides, most top secret # is boring as #. I should know.



And there are many more:

www.whatis-theplan.org...





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