ANONYMOUS: "The Plan" is now live. Phase 1: Initiated. War against the System

reply to post by AGWskeptic


You got it skeptic!! We (Americans), have lived a lavish lifestyle for sometime now, many of us beyond our means. I am excited to hear of the changes you have made, I wish I was in a position to sell off some of my valuables, but I am still in the hunting/gathering stage of my life.
At the same time it's not so bad since I don't have many debts to my name. I have always wondered about the purchases I have made at my local "funshops," but if things get bad I hope to have enough foresight to get the heck out of dodge before they come looking for me. It is never bad to be well prepared and if nothing happens than you have a beautiful new home, and a great camper to enjoy with your family.

Originally posted by TheRealTruth84
reply to post by AGWskeptic

 

You got it skeptic!! We (Americans), have lived a lavish lifestyle for sometime now, many of us beyond our means. I am excited to hear of the changes you have made, I wish I was in a position to sell off some of my valuables, but I am still in the hunting/gathering stage of my life.

At the same time it's not so bad since I don't have many debts to my name. I have always wondered about the purchases I have made at my local "funshops," but if things get bad I hope to have enough foresight to get the heck out of dodge before they come looking for me.

It is never bad to be well prepared and if nothing happens than you have a beautiful new home, and a great camper to enjoy with your family.

edit on 6/16/2011 by TheRealTruth84 because: (no reason given)

Truth be told, most of my guns at the bottom of lake Superior, the result of a very unfortunate boating accident.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Originally posted by TheRealTruth84

Originally posted by Perfectenemy
Dude we get it please stop with this crap. I for one don´t care where the video was taken because it doesn´t matter to me. Of course there is alot of subtext in the video but it would be impossible for the government/Illuminati/antichrist or whatever to predict the final outcome. People change their mind every day.

OK...you prove your point is invalid with this comment. You say you don't care where this video was taken, or more properly came from. Will you care when your IP address is flagged, and you realize that this is not the same Anonymous group you once loved and adored? When you realize the gov't has created yet another False Flag Operation used to gather data and squash its opposition. I am not a sheep! Are you!?!?

Look you can be paranoid but not everything is planned by the government. You need an insane amount of people who you can trust to pull something like this off and Anon are not just 10 or 100 people. It´s a worldwide network with i would say 10.000 or even maybe more people. Are you really convinced that they are all CIA/NSA/FBI or whatever? I know all about the NWO/antichrist/fake alien invasion and such conspiracy theories but come on. I know it´s hard to trust someone if you know how the real world works and looks like but i for one don´t let fear control my entire life.

If the government wants me? I say come and get me you ugly f*cks. I don´t fear anything. My life isn´t easy you know and i´ve been through a lot and i´m still standing. Some people in my position would have eaten a bullet long time ago and be done with it. I´m not even considering myself a good person and i´m still trying to redeem myself for everything i´ve done in my past but i never f*cking quit.

I would take a bullet for my family,friends and even strangers like you because that´s the way i am now. If i see injustice i step in and stop it no matter the consequences for myself. I don´t believe in god or anything because you don´t need a bible to know the difference between right and wrong.

If i vanish without a trace my family would never stop looking for me and they are very smart people. They know everything about me because i wanted to start my "new" life with a clean slate.

I´m ready to die and make a stand! Are you?

Ps: I wouldn´t harm a fly and i´m not violent at all but if its necessary i´ll fight till my last breath.

reply to post by Perfectenemy


I think your points are valid here PerfectEnemy and like I have said, show me proof that I should trust Anon and my points may sway. I would also go to the end of the earth for those I love in my life, and will surely stand up and fight for everything we believe in when our time comes. I don't fear our gov't, but I certainly don't trust them. I will stay my pace and prepare for the worst, while I hope for the best, no need for premature eja..... well you know what I mean.

reply to post by Perfectenemy


I'll give you an example.

I was an original Tea Party member, one of the first 1,000, but I quit when FoxCo and their bimbo's Bachman and Palin highjacked it.

The original Tea Party concept was much like Anon, no central leadership, no offices, nobody in charge, just grassroots folks.

But that made it ripe for it to be taken over. Any fool with the ability to issue a press release could claim an event as a Tea Party event, and now we have a mess.

reply to post by AGWskeptic

We have a mess all right.
Don't blame the T.E.A. Party.
Sure, Neocons hijacked the train, but their train goes NOWHERE.
Don't give up.
The revolution continues. If you joined the T.E.A. Party for a good reason, you won't give up just because Palin is a fraud and she pretends to be your friend.
Keep fighting the good fight, we are actually winning. You won't read about it in the newspaper or see it on Fox News.

reply to post by PheonixOD


Where's the heck is "V" when you need him?

Or Neo, for that matter? Seems we're standing at the edge, looking down into the Valley, at the foreshadowing of some troubling times ahead.. Every cloud has a silver lining.

Wachowski.

To the OP - excellent thread. You must have some decent subscriptions. I've never bothered much with Youtube but due to work stuff it has become part of my remit.


All the best to the All.

"...May History find you well."


Fly.. Always.

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by Forevever

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by boondock-saint
I just do not understand why my photo evidence
on page 19 and 20 are mostly being ignored.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Do you folks not want to know the make-up
of the video ??? or who is responsible for it ???
Where they are located can in fact help with motive.
Why do some not feel this is important when
dealing with the future of mankind ???
Complacency here is astounding.

edit on 6/16/2011 by boondock-saint because: add links

Shhhh, don't disturb them when they are being led like lambs to the slaughter. Their closed minded group mentality is not aroused by your critical thought provoking questions. The study of the Sheeple in the wild is a rare event, don't scare them away, this open internet habitat they have will be gone soon.

::sigh::

The reality being the ONLY reason anyone wants to know who is behind Anonymous is so they can later point fingers.

I'll take the heat, blame me. Knowledge is power.

Step one - educate people - is that really so hard? Is this message really a bad one?

Forget anonymous - what are YOU doing?

What am I doing?
I am being highly entertained by all the bandwagons the same people keep jumping on.
Obama's hope and change,
Ron Paul's proverbial sinking ship
now these illegal hacksters

What they will never get is that history repeats itself, they are not onto anything new. You can go back to the French revolution where all the young idealists were whipped up into a frenzy to change the system. They got the guillotine then Napoleon for their naive idealist thinking and any who were left alive marched around Europe till they were killed off by the millions in all the wars bought and paid for by the same banksters of today.

You are being used by an unstoppable machine, I am doing the only responsible thing I can, sitting back and being amused and awed at the awesomeness of history.

I originally had a smart comment for you but I read this several times and its actually right on - You're not even arguing with me - I get it.

I don't like the attitude that its somehow less important because its happened before, but I agree with everything you say here. I might even have mentioned a few times that its not a new idea, I even think I mentioned being a hippie at heart....hmm...

It doesn't even bother me that you say I'm being used - Just glad I'm useful.

Yes, history is very awesome

Originally posted by TheRealTruth84
reply to post by Perfectenemy

 

I think your points are valid here PerfectEnemy and like I have said, show me proof that I should trust Anon and my points may sway. I would also go to the end of the earth for those I love in my life, and will surely stand up and fight for everything we believe in when our time comes. I don't fear our gov't, but I certainly don't trust them. I will stay my pace and prepare for the worst, while I hope for the best, no need for premature eja..... well you know what I mean.

Hey no harm done. It´s fine by me and i never said you should follow them blindly just do your own thing. Everyone can be Anon. It´s just an idea and it´s up to you what you make of it. I can´t proof anything because Anon is not just one person. Anon are like the Borg. Everybody is the same but if you feel like it you can do whatever you want. Damn i miss Seven of Nine.

I´m more worried about Lulzec because nobody knows their hidden agenda and there attacks seem so random. Maybe Anon are the "good" guys and Lulzec are the government? Everything is possible.

reply to post by Perfectenemy


It's the outworking of the principle - History has principles, much like any other mathematical (statistical) construct.

The principle of revolution; overcoming the enemy - breaking the stranglehold. Chaos begetting order - trial by fire and redemption through sacrifice.

ANON is "V" It is the mask behind which the people can move together. That's dangerous thinking tbh, but there we go. Take from it what you will.


It truly is His-Story. Demonstrated through each one individually, in our microcosmic groups and our large-scale civilisations, races & collectives.

In fact, I bet this goes up to the scale of galaxies and universes; macrocosmic principalities & powers etc.

Perhaps the Elders are the Highest potential outworkings of the sums of all possibilities within each sphere. If the Creator is a mathematician (as above, so below), fractals in the base24 order (is that a real description? I'm kind of winging this with an absolute minimal knowledge of mathematics.) would find representation in an infinite 'set of sets' represented in turn by the 24 Elders.

Hence, why the Multiverses, Universes, Galaxies (ALL SYSTEMS) will show rough synchronicities, accounting for chaos interactions (?? Is Chaos Theory generally accepted by mathematicians within some or all contexts ??) aligning to some power or other of 24. Infolding fractals within a perfect zero point expression? Outer, Inner - planes of reality intersecting in various self-supporting ways, forming patterns, like the snowflakes as they crystallise under the microscope.

24 hours in a day. Not random, but part of a deeper order behind all matter - and within the ability of self-recognising sentience to perceive and wonder at. Perhaps that's the meaning - to recognise and find wonderment.

Perhaps our ultimate conflict, within the construct of the journey (the Voyage of the Destiny - Voyage of the DAWN TREADER) - is on how to choose; in which direction, we shall evolve - when the time comes, what shall we choose? Magical outworkings will result.

"When you have done all you can to stand, then, when you can stand no more - STILL take a stand."

"He will give his angels charge over thee, that ye shall not strike thy foot against a stone."


Add the two together, and you can know that no harm can come in faith - even if we sleep before all is complete.



Fly.

So... their big "plan" is to do graffiti? Seriously?

I hate videos like this because they make me feel so torn. Yes, I feel that the world is spiraling out of control. I've been feeling for years that "something just isn't right". It's easy to be moved emotionally by a video like this that taps into that sense of dread and hopelessness that grips us all. It makes you feel fired up, and want to do something to make a difference in the world--something to lash out at this out-of-control, self perpetuating, ever expanding, hideous, monster of a system. Then...just as you are ready to yell "f*ck the system" at the top of your lungs, they encourage you to do graffiti, put rebellious content in your art/literature, and become more self reliant.

Talk about letting the wind out of your sails!!! It's like rallying people around with pitchforks and torches, whipping them into a frenzy, then asking them to sign a petition. Woo hoo...

Let's hope, when they announce Phase II, it's something a little more tangible, revolutionary, impactual, unified, and cohesive.

reply to post by morder1


Ok now in a general sense I would say he has lost his mind due to the share fact this is not a little fire we talking about an inferno that can engulf everything around it. Which is why I believe before just spitting into the face of all evil you need to plan your steps. Baby steps my friend baby steps.

Originally posted by MiloNickels they encourage you to do graffiti, put rebellious content in your art/literature, and become more self reliant

I've thought this was the best practice for about 30 years now. I'm glad to see a call for the concentration of it. It makes me feel less like a ranting loner.

Together we can accomplish anything.

Together we can make a difference.

Together we can change the world.

The TPTB know this very well. This is why their tool is separation. They have used every trick in the book to separate and divide, their Hegelian dialect has conquered for centuries.

They have fooled us into noticing the differences between us. Whether it is the color of your skin, eyes, or hair. Your education status, economic status, nationality, patriotism, terrorism, religion, democrat or republican, all have been tools to conquer and divide.

What is holding us back? Our own fears.

It is very easy to take down this system. But what makes it difficult is our separation. We have been taught to fear each other, this is why we all lock our doors at night.

The simple basic truth they have stolen and hidden from us so surreptitiously is "What you do unto others, you do to yourself"

What a simple and basic truth this is, yet we fear and deny it exist. We attack viciously our brothers without even thinking that they are in this same cruel game as ourselves.

All it takes is Unity, togetherness, and mass organization.

All we have to do is stop participating in the system. What do you think would happen if every person in America would stop working for one week? We are the ones who make the system run, we are the pawns, all we have to do is stop working, stop using monies (fiat, gold, silver, whatever metals), the idea of currency and working for money is the ultimate trap.

It has taken away our ingenuity to live from the Earth which provides with everything we need.

We must stop working, stop going to school, stop buying things, because we have already worked hard enough for everything.

We could live in a world of abundance. It is scarcity which creates the problems of society, people steal, and harm their fellow brothers and sisters because they live in scarcity. Scarcity is another tool of the TPTB used to implement fear for your neighbor, for you lively hood.

Now imagine if all the humans of the earth united and decided to stop working for one week. Stop using monies for one week.

No war is needed to change this world. No protest, or clashes with the police. We just have to stop participating in the system that enslaves us all.

We are the ones who control everything, we are the ones who do the dirty work for the TPTB. We are the ones who supply energy for every single home, we are the ones who installed all the new smart meters, and we are the ones who push the button to send missiles to destroy our brothers and sisters.

Stop preaching hate and separation. When you see everyone around you, remember they are just extension of yourself. What you do unto others you do to yourself. This is the whole of the law.

This is where the idea of "Love thy neighbor as thy self" sprung from.

But we must be united as one.

One voice, One family, One Humanity.

Stop participating in the system and we will change this world and expose the TPTB for the insanity they have placed on all of us.

Stop participating is the plan.

Spread it far and wide.

Remember we are the ones who grow and pick the crops, we are the ones who drive the semis full of food into the grocery stores. We make this Earth.

Start the revolution.

BeWise

The news comes in many forms, publicised from your local paper, T.V. Station, or word of mouth from your peers or acquaintances funny as it may seem... the Internet, which is where quite a lot of people find out everything from the day's forecast weather, to the latest scandal.

Some of us find fortune or conspiracy in the things we see or witness. Nobody can say for sure without a doubt that what you saw was just that. Remember that old saying - “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” ? .. alas many have idioms.

To interject what I know, or where I have been is of consequence to no one but myself. But I have been led to believe over my short time amongst my humankind, that nothing beats a good controversy.

Some figure that hackers / crackers / cyber-terrorists / security specialists alike are just geeks hiding in some dark, damp basement … amongst old comic books and fantasy memorabilia.. don't be so naive.

I can't surmise that the “Internet” as we know it will ever just come down crashing like some bad stocks. But I can say for sure, there are many ways to communicate one's ideologies without using a computer.

We as a “People” - Anonymous or not, can stand for what is right.. without an agenda and a purpose. - it can lead to chaos .. whether or not the video is a distraction or some sort of disinformation, one will never know. But I can say, the seed has been planted. You can't forget what you have already seen. (To interject on anyone's behalf I must note that lets say, short of trauma or medical means).

People are at the boiling point everywhere I read or listen too. You can see the winds of change throughout the world. It is coming for some, for others it is already here.. some are dying or have died for change.

I am unsure of what the make-up of the people are that read these forums or visit ATS. But no matter the age, religion, race, or “absolute nomenclature” of each of us are, we strive to stand for a purpose.

It should be beyond the flag that waves in your front yard or what morals your stand for. You are here, you are forming a “collective” - just as the Internet is a “collective” of sorts.

Think of the movie, if you have seen it.. “Fight Club” - The people, Anonymous, we are everywhere, everyone. All walks of life, all with an idea. Some see it as Freedom, others as Anarchy.

Either way, every walk, starts with a single step.

Whether Anon is false flag or not is irrelevant. People want so desperately to have something they can believe in once again, that just the idea of anon is good enough. I admire people who have the patience and will to try and resolve and change things peacefully. I am not violent by nature, and prefer peaceful means to accomplish goals. Even though some of my posts may give the other impression, I don't want violence to be the vehicle of change. However, should a peaceful means not work, then yes, I think a violent conclusion is inevitable and I will be one of the first to join in. When you start seeing the people entrusted to protect you basically carrying out executions, then the hour of violent protest is nearing.

There are a lot of valid points and ideas that have flowed through this discussion. I have seen ideas from both left and right (hate categorizing like that) that make sense. Just as another poster stated, it is the ability to divide us that keeps them in power. When you have a movement, the tiny details are what keeps people from joining in. A movement should have a common, basic theme to unite. Compromise and communication are the tools to unite a deeply separated idea. Unfortunately TPTB are like school kids. If I can't have my way, you can't have yours. Partisan politics is ruining our country faster than Nobama. The two party system has got to go! We need to be united in our primary goals, and work out compromises on the minor things.

If we as a people can unite under a common primary goal, then there is nothing the system can do to stop us. We all know change is needed. We all know that the status quot just isn't cutting it. WE know what is best for US. You can change things, you just have to be willing to communicate and compromise. Not all social issues will be resolved overnight. There is no silver bullet to fix what's wrong. However there are "treatments" or "band aides" that can help to change and heal the great divide that has separated us for decades. We are the change, we have the power, we control the future. Are you willing to make the change? Are you willing to communicate? Are you willing to compromise? Are you ready to take control, seize the power and have your voice heard?

I think these ideals are the basis of what anon is trying to communicate. I could be wrong, and probably am, but if you look at history when great changes occurred, people communicated, they compromised. Our forefathers did not see eye to eye on everything, but they did agree on the main issue and principals. They worked together to forge one of the most important and influential documents in human history. They fought the most powerful military in the world and won. They created a society that has been the envy of the entire world for over two centuries. If they could accomplish that back then, then what is stopping us now? You have to want change, you have to live it, breath it and support it at every turn. So, each morning when you get up, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what are you going to do today to effect change? It all starts with YOU!

Anonymous cannot be harmed, no matter how many Anonymous may fall in battle.Anonymous cannot be out-numbered. Anonymous is a hydra, constantly moving, constantly changing. Remove one head, and ten replace it. Anonymous reinforces its ranks exponentially at need. Anonymous has no weakness or flaw. Anonymous exploits weaknesses and flaws. Anonymous is not your personal army. Anonymous is in control at all times. Anonymous does not accept failure, Anonymous delivers. Anonymous has no identity. Anonymous cannot be betrayed. Anonymous does it for the lulz. Anonymous is a choice. Anonymous is an unstoppable force. Anonymous obeys the Code. Anonymous is Legion. Anonymous does not forgive. Anonymous does not forget. Expect us. "We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us."

Posted this in another thread:

Knowing how our society is people will not give up the good life unless they are forced to. What the movement needs is an organization, setup as a 501(c)(3) corporation whose purpose is to raise funds to support those who are willing to make a stand. If civil disobedience is to be the tool to force change, then those who are willing to be on the front lines need to have a means of supporting themselves and their families. If this could be done, I think there would be a lot more participation. People would be more apt to take the risks if they knew their families were taken care of, and that they would not lose their homes.

Food for thought.

We are not alone. We will have people fighting until the last breath. ATS wars on the information front. This rocks.

reply to post by mb2591


omg that is so weak. Take a laptop. Any of the following operating systems: linux, windows, solaris, os/2.

(oracle vbox works with all of the above os's)

Be sure to toss a ubiquity wireless card in, standard market fare generally sucks.

(most nics won't allow packet injection and other goodies)

Toss oracle vbox on the computer, be sure to use a spare 2.5" drive which you can remove from the computer, and have a spare one that has nothing but normal stuff on it (stuff not used for hacking).

(use virtual operating system to work in, this os will generate a hardware profile that is generic because direct access is not given to hardware unless it is specifically granted in vbox -- thus no unique identifiers). Further to that, as you surf and do certain things little traces of what you did are left behind. My advice, use a non-persistent linux image with your tools all loaded into it, and keep the image on a thumbdrive that can be quickly and easily destroyed or disposed of.)

Use macchanger to change the hardware address of your network card.
(and don't register your equipment otherwise you will be found)

Install tor, use tor to hack if possible, otherwise, setup a proxy (vpn? or a cascade of proxies) which you can tunnel via onion skin routing to control a slave system.


BE SURE YOU ARE CONNECTING WIRELESSLY TO DIFFERENT WIFI LOCATIONS, AND USE THEM TO GET THE JOB DONE AND LEAVE FAST. Leave no time for signal triangulation.

This is how you don't get identified. I question every capture event of an anonymous member, because if someone doesn't want to get caught, they don't even have to know very much to not get caught.

What I would like to know is what kind of group of hackers doesn't PROTECT it's own by having them all follow protocol that won't be getting them caught, truth is, anonymous is just a soros funded group that takes advantage of script kiddies and they are also trying to lure you into a controlled opposition trap -- DO NOT USE THEIR DIGITAL MONEY IT IS THE SAME THING AS A WORLD CURRENCY SYSTEM.