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The Canadian government has now recognized the Transitional National Council, the diplomatic arm of the Libyan rebel movement, as the “legitimate representative” of the citizens of the North African country. Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird announced the move as the House of Commons sat for a debate on whether to extend Canada's involvement in the NATO-led air campaign seeking to oust leader Moammar Gadhafi from power. While short of recognizing the TNC as the legitimate government of Libya, recognizing the Benghazi-based council as the representative gives it more diplomatic heft in i
Originally posted by UcDat
Well I think its all bunk
The rebels are nothing more than CIA sponsored Alqueda. there is no proof of those alleged attacks by Qaddafi and Canada's already 150 million in on bombs alone.
Speaking of which they arnt even pretending about the no fly zone anymore this is an all out attack on a sovereign country backed by lies.
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Originally posted by Evanescence
Herp and derp.
Do you seriously think that Libya, one of the most edcuated and developed Westernized Middle Eastern/African nations in the world is made up of mostly Al Qaeda rebels and that the Gaddafi forces (run by someone almost everyone who meets describes as a lunatic) are innocent of any wrongdoing?
Originally posted by PplVSNWO
Originally posted by Evanescence
Herp and derp.
Do you seriously think that Libya, one of the most edcuated and developed Westernized Middle Eastern/African nations in the world is made up of mostly Al Qaeda rebels and that the Gaddafi forces (run by someone almost everyone who meets describes as a lunatic) are innocent of any wrongdoing?
No, he doesn't think that most of the country is made up of rebels, that is why it has almost no support from the general population. How many rebels are there, really?
Is it wrong for a country to defend it's cities agains "rebels"?
Because I can can state that it is wrong what NATO forces are doing to Libya.
Originally posted by Evanescence
Herp and derp.
Do you seriously think that Libya. . .is made up of mostly Al Qaeda rebels and that the Gaddafi forces (run by someone almost everyone who meets describes as a lunatic) (run by someone almost everyone who meets describes as a lunatic) are innocent of any wrongdoing?
Originally posted by Evanescence
Herp and derp.
Do you seriously think that Libya, one of the most edcuated and developed Westernized Middle Eastern/African nations in the world is made up of mostly Al Qaeda rebels and that the Gaddafi forces (run by someone almost everyone who meets describes as a lunatic) are innocent of any wrongdoing?
I know lending my time and brain power to this ignorant drivel is crazy, but it has to stop. The very fact that I have to think for you is bad enough, I mean actually look at the unbiased evidence, learn a bit of history, learn about Gaddafi and his sons, about Libya, about Western interventionism, about the background of this conflict and its escalation. It's much more complicated than "lulz oil," but I didn't expect much coming into this thread anyways...
Now I end this succinct post with a joke:
Gimme a "C" eh, "N" eh, "D" eh.
Originally posted by imherejusttoread
Originally posted by Evanescence
Herp and derp.
Do you seriously think that Libya. . .is made up of mostly Al Qaeda rebels and that the Gaddafi forces (run by someone almost everyone who meets describes as a lunatic) (run by someone almost everyone who meets describes as a lunatic) are innocent of any wrongdoing?
Whether the Gaddafi forces are innocent or not is not for you or any non-Libyan to decide. It's for the people of Libya to decide. This is a civil war, not a world war.
It's a slippery slope that questions why this country, with equally horrific state-sponsored terrorism happening in many others'.
Originally posted by UcDat
Brain power eh heres a lady with more smarts and brass tacks than me...
Now tell me you believe the lies that your a sheeple cause from where I sit the biggest liars and killers are the ones leading us. Obama Harper Cameron Sarkozy and the rest all need to go to jail for their lies the and the blood they've split.
Originally posted by PplVSNWO
reply to post by Evanescence
You sound like you have it all figured out. How about some sources for your claims about numbers of rebel supporters. Every time I have seen media coverage of the rebels, it's always the same 10-15 guys over and over. I have found no real numbers on the size of the rebel forces, myself.
Originally posted by peck420
I am still curious as to the whole Libya campaign's goals and reasons.
Was Ghadaffi an bad person? Don't know, never met him, but likely...trend for dictators.
Will the rebels be any better? Don't know, never met them (here is the concerning part), and I don't think our leaders know either.
I personally think that something is very amis about LIbya. How does the highest HDI rated African country suddenly become a hot spot, while much 'hotter' spots run free? Are we there to help the people? How are we helping them? Who are we protecting them from? etc, etc, etc.
There will be no win in Libya. We just stepped between two monkeys flinging poop and arbitrarily picked a side. For all we know, we are about to help usher in a new era of tyranny for the people of Libya.
Originally posted by UcDat
reply to post by Evanescence
lol that lady was a senator went to libya saw this first hand and your who where now? ya another nobody crying ra ra ra war and towing the official line spare me your platitudes.
sorry fact is I'll take one of her over a thousand of you any day.
Originally posted by UcDat
reply to post by Evanescence
lol that lady was a senator went to libya saw this first hand and your who where now? ya another nobody crying ra ra ra war and towing the official line spare me your platitudes.
sorry fact is I'll take one of her over a thousand of you any day.
Originally posted by vkey08
Originally posted by UcDat
reply to post by Evanescence
lol that lady was a senator went to libya saw this first hand and your who where now? ya another nobody crying ra ra ra war and towing the official line spare me your platitudes.
sorry fact is I'll take one of her over a thousand of you any day.
Why because she was a senator? Look at Anthony Wiener now, and multitudes of others that have been toppled in scandal. Just because she's a senator does not mean she is above reproach or should be 100% trusted. Gaddafi (or Quaddafi, or however you want to spell it) is not a nice person. He is self admittedly behind one of the worst terrorist acts of the 1980's and was not above murdering his own people to obtain his goals. He overthrew a legitimate government, and self proclaimed himself ruler. Now none of this may matter to you, but 99% of the world looks at this as just deserts.
Do not equate, however, my support of regime change in Libya to mean I support NATO's actions, I do not, as it looks now that it is swiftly becoming a ground war that we should not and cannot afford to get bogged down in. I do support , however the desire for the people of this country to get rid of this despot and become a democratic nation.
Originally posted by Evanescence
That's ludicrous. Having an opinion on people being supposedly massacred and a dictator is a matter of concern for all human beings.
. . .near universal support for intervention on humanitarian grounds + a madman chanting about murdering people and marching columns of tanks to do so = maybe this won't end like Egypt and we don't want it to end like Rwanda. . .
Originally posted by UcDat
Ya I do hold her in high regards she's been a thorn in TPTB's side ever since she stepped into the ring they had to rezone her district to get rid of her. So ya and comparing her to weiner is low she's in the same league as Ron Paul one of the few actually fighting for the people.
As for the Qaddafi thing its spelled with a Q and who said he was a saint? not me not her all were saying is NATO is lying and killing innocents. They've already killed and destroyed more in Libya than the so called dictator they are trying to remove ever had or would. Lybia was the best place to live in Africa before this unprovoked attack and occupation.
They have no leg to stand on legally or morally pretending they do is blind patriotism or pure shilling take your pick.edit on 14-6-2011 by UcDat because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by imherejusttoread
Why? You don't own all humans beings nor do they own you. It's okay to have an opinion on "people being supposedly massacred and a dictator", but it's a different matter entirely when it comes to physically intervening into a conflict between the people and it's government. It's a civil war. The Libyan people make their decisions. That's their sovereignty. You want to take that away? How is that, philosophically, any different than the current regime?
We didn't just intervene, we intervened and aren't able to tell who's a civilian or who's the enemy. That's x amount of people that could be alive right now contributing to the rebellion; people who want to live peacefully are caught in the crossfire for some feigned humanitarian reason that has no aim but to satsify political correctness.
That's what Canada is doing here: pre-determining the war/conflict by choosing their representatives regardless of the outcome.
Originally posted by Evanescence
That's ludicrous. Having an opinion on people being supposedly massacred and a dictator is a matter of concern for all human beings.