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Which Song Got Mozart into Hot Water with the Illuminati?

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posted on Aug, 7 2004 @ 11:33 PM
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I heard that Mozart revealed a lot of secret information in one of his songs. I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the song.




posted on Aug, 8 2004 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by DetectivePerez
I heard that Mozart revealed a lot of secret information in one of his songs. I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the song.


1) Mozart was never even implied by conspiracy theorists to be in "hot water" with the Illuminati, it was the Freemasons.

2) Mozart was never even seriously implied to be in "hot water" with the Freemasons except by an extreme lunatic fringe.

3) He was never implied to be in "hot water" because of any specific song, but rather because of certain events depicted in "The Magic Flute" (Aka "Die Zauberflaute," if you want to be proper). The opera is fantastic, and even nicer when you have the privelege of escorting a stunning young lady to it, as I did. The Masonic trappings of the opera are certainly there, but it doesn't reveal anything other than some basic aspects of some para-Masonic esoteric philosophy.

4) The whole theory is just about as plausible as the idea that a jealous Salieri poisoned Mozart, i.e. not at all.



posted on Aug, 8 2004 @ 09:39 AM
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It should also be pointed out that Mozart's opera, "The Magic Flute", was celebrated by the Masonic community, and condemned by the Church.

In the opera, the character called the Queen of the Night represents the Church, who has declared war on mankind, seeking to keep people in ignorance and slavery. Sarastro, the Hierophant of the Illuminati, is slandered by the Queen, but he keeps working in serenity to transform the world from a jungle to a utopia of liberty. The opera then follows the initiation of the story's hero into the Illuminati. The Illuminati have three temples: the Temple of Strength, the Temple of Wisdom, and the Temple of the Sun. When the heros of the story have completed their ordeals of initiation, they take the Queen prisoner.

However, Sarastro lectures the new initiates that to punish her would be a violation of Masonic ethics, and that their final ordeal is to learn to practice tolerance, even against their enemies. The queen is then freed with the understanding that she will remain in exile, and never use her black magic against the Adepts again. The opera ends with the Illuminati joining together singing the victorious birth of the Brotherhood of Man.

The opera is clearly an allegory of the struggle between he Roman Catholic Church and liberal and Masonic movements in 18th century Europe. Mozart's Masonic Brother Johannes von Goethe, who was also a member of the Bavarian Illuminati, praised the opera as the greatest ever written.

Mozart also wrote the Little Masonic Cantata, which he dedicated to his father, also a Mason.

Today, many Lodges use Mozart's music during ceremonial work.

Fiat Lvx.



posted on Aug, 8 2004 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by DetectivePerez
I heard that Mozart revealed a lot of secret information in one of his songs. I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the song.


Wow, the decline of public education could never be made more evident by a "which song by Mozart?" question. Mozart was probably the most talented composer in musical history, the quality of his short but prolific career speaks volumes. While he did compose a few "songs" (quite different from modern "pop" style music), the Opera, "The Magic Flute" is the work that you refer to (incorrectly) as being a point of contention with his Masonic Brethren. Antonio Salieri (this is the basis for "Amadeus"), who confessed to poisoning Mozart as an old man in a state of dementia indicated the "Requiem Mass" composed by Mozart in 1791 as the motivation for his act of murder. This was disproved by Dr. Carl Bür in 1966; he concluded Mozart died of heart failure cause by rheumatic fever, and excessive blood letting.

List of Mozart's works.

Mozart's Biography.

p.s. "The Magic Flute" was played backwards by Robert plant and Jimmy Page, inspiring them to backwards encode "Deny Ignorance" into "Stairway To Heaven".



posted on Aug, 9 2004 @ 08:24 AM
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You realize that, any minute now, he is going to come back and accuse the
(insert your favorite fratenal order / secret society here) of murdering Mozart.



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