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Is Gold in Fort Knox Real? Ron Paul Wants to Know

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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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The guy you quoted, I saw recently here on ATS RP asking the fed i think it was if there was gold in fort knox... So ya I think he knows.. But the rest of what that guy said I have no idea what he is talking about.... I will look for that post and add it here since its talking about the same thing almost...

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Here it is..

Fed says we have no gold...


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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by RUSSO

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
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It does seem that Ron Paul is the ONLY one in DC that gives a damn. In today's political climate, I can't see how he stands a chance of getting elected, although I hope that I am wrong. I feel his efforts to inspect the gold at Ft. Knox are all in vain because there are some pretty powerful and influential forces that control the gold, and it goes way above little Timmy Geithner and Bernanke. They are just puppets that serve the same masters... although I am sure that you are well aware of that. At least Ron Paul is trying, and it doesn't look like he will shut up or stand down, and that makes me fear for his safety.


I think It would be a very dangerous mistake if they did anything with Ron Paul.

Why is it so hard for some people to see the simple logic behind what Dr. Paul has been saying for more than 30 years? You can't have a government backed by nothing, and you can't just keep printing money out of thin air.


I don't think it is hard for people to see that, because it seems that more and more average people are waking up everyday. The elitists controlling and/or influencing everything even know that their philosophy will never work, but they consider themselves above their very own ideology. They know that it is easier to control the masses when everything has gone to hell....when there are no jobs, when gas is $4.00 a gallon, when people are hungry, etc... That is how an Oligarchy works. The elitists implementing the policies are not effected by them, but everyone else is. Dr. Paul knows this, and he stands against it, but he is one of the few.

There are two types of People in Washington D.C., and they are on both sides, Republican and Democrat. The two types of people are Players and Useful Idiots. The Players know what's going on, they know the agenda and what the end result will be from their actions. They use the Useful Idiots to accomplish this. There are far more Useful Idiots than there are Players. Even if Ron Paul is elected, what will he be able to accomplish when he surrounded by so many enemies?



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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They don't have to test all the bars. They are saying that to discourage the testing. All they need is someone that can be trusted. I have no idea who that would be. To radomly select the bars to be tested. Pick any bar they want and as many as they want. The entire process would have to be recorded from beginning to end. As for me I spent most my life around the Fort Knox area and it has been said that the last shipment of gold in the vault was transported to an overseas bank during the Iran Hostage affair during Jimmy Carters Presidency. It was also said that bars were gold plated and put back in case there were questions. Now recently this issue with China about gold plated bars., The biggest question in my mind is who stole the gold and when was it stolen. It is quite possible that the current administration weren't the ones attempting to defraud.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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Thanks for the video.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Sorry this may sound like a silly question, but how much is a gold bar worth?

I did a quick search and got $55248 so I multiplied by 700,000 (the amount in Knox) which is $38,673,600,000

I know it's a lot of money, but what's the big deal? It's as if America's whole reserves are in Fort Knox but $38.5bn in my opinion isn't a lot to keep the US of A afloat is it?

Sorry, I'm not from America so I'm not aware of the ins/outs of how it all works, was just curious is all.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Do you have any source that can support your claims about it?


The odd thing is that I remember around 30 years ago people were saying there was no gold in Fort Knox. Have they only just discovered this now?



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 04:16 PM
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400 * $1500 * 700,000 is $420,000,000,000

OK not going to keep them running for long but a bit more than you calculated.


400 Troy ounces in a standard gold bar * $1500 = $600,000 per bar.



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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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That seems like a legitimate request by Dr. Paul.

All they have to do is show us the birth certificate, err I mean OBL err wait what thread is this, oh yeah...all the liars have to do is just show us the gold bars...seems simple enough

right?



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 04:41 PM
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fdr and johnson the only 2 americans to have gone to fort knox and sell off its gold.
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mulitple attempts have been made to get to the truth of the matter at fort knox and we will never know

its perhaps the only secret that government has ever kept.
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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Ron Paul seems to be the only one fighting in the interests of the people. We need more individuals like him to push for the end of the Federal Reserve and bring back the gold standard. Let those international bankers swallow their fiat currency and choke on it.


You are right on there. Ron Paul is the only one running that can save America. We really need the federal reserve and the IRS banned and all of their assets seized and given to the U.S. Treasury, where it has belonged all the time. The rest of the politicians are only interested in padding their already bulging off-shore bank accounts.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by autowrench
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Ron Paul seems to be the only one fighting in the interests of the people. We need more individuals like him to push for the end of the Federal Reserve and bring back the gold standard. Let those international bankers swallow their fiat currency and choke on it.


You are right on there. Ron Paul is the only one running that can save America. We really need the federal reserve and the IRS banned and all of their assets seized and given to the U.S. Treasury, where it has belonged all the time. The rest of the politicians are only interested in padding their already bulging off-shore bank accounts.


Its true, the only thing they really care is money in their banks.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
fdr and johnson the only 2 americans to have gone to fort knox and sell off its gold.
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mulitple attempts have been made to get to the truth of the matter at fort knox and we will never know

its perhaps the only secret that government has ever kept.
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A very dirty little secret.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by mthgs602
The reserve has already stated that we have no gold but simply a gold "certificate" worth its weight in gold but for a cash value. There was thread up recently with ron paul asking the question but i cant find the damn thing.



That is because the Federal Reserve is not responsible for the gold, the US Treasury is .. Fort Knox is part of the Treasury department... the Fed was correct to state they don't have any... now if the Treasury doesn't either, we have a problem..



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Scoriada
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Originally posted by Scoriada

I like RP but I don't see how finding out that the gold is fake will do anything to help our country. This would just piss off the entire world that owns dollars. Am I mistaken here?




I fail to see how Scoriada's post violated any "manners or decorum". He makes a valid point that fake gold won't in any way help the US (ofc, a currency backed by tungsten bars of gold isn't good). And it is true it would annoy the whole world, at least those countries (the whole west & a lot of other countries) holding a high % of dollars in reserve (hence the world recession imo). Was his whole post censored cause he used an abbreviation of the word pee or am i missing something?



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by Scoriada
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Originally posted by Scoriada

I like RP but I don't see how finding out that the gold is fake will do anything to help our country. This would just piss off the entire world that owns dollars. Am I mistaken here?




I fail to see how Scoriada's post violated any "manners or decorum". He makes a valid point that fake gold won't in any way help the US (ofc, a currency backed by tungsten bars of gold isn't good). And it is true it would annoy the whole world, at least those countries (the whole west & a lot of other countries) holding a high % of dollars in reserve (hence the world recession imo). Was his whole post censored cause he used an abbreviation of the word pee or am i missing something?



Off topic to explain to you that I edited the dirty word he used. This is why the mod "manners & decorum" him


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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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Federal Reserve Admits: We Have No Gold

Did he miss this or something? Its recent news too



But hey its a good thing hes bringing attention about this to the people!


But then again its not charlie sheen or lady gaga related, americans not really care now do they?
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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by vermonster
That seems like a legitimate request by Dr. Paul.

All they have to do is show us the birth certificate, err I mean OBL err wait what thread is this, oh yeah...all the liars have to do is just show us the gold bars...seems simple enough

right?


Yeh, but not the "fancy" tungsten ones



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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They don't have to test all the bars.


They can do this process by sampling. But seems there is no gold in there, even the faked ones.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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Tell you what,I will drive to Fort Knox,which is 30 miles from me
and demand ,as a law abiding tax paying American to show me the Gold.
How far do you think I will get?
I have driven by there many times on the way to the lake and it sits right there
about 100 yards from the road.
And everytime I driveby there,I wish I could just make a left turn and knock on the gate.
But I will be shot.
So best of luck,Ron Paul.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 02:49 AM
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I think you got it all sorted with the tungsten bars


That is ATS for you, talking about something and seeing it poping on the next post, love it !!



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