I'm brand new here, but felt compelled to make an account mainly so I could chime in on this thread. I realize what OP is stating may sound
outrageous, especially since they use the term demon which carries with it all sorts of baggage and specific theological imagery; however, I feel the
spirit of what he is communicating does resonate with what some very respectable researchers have suggested in some ways and I do think a good amount
of what he's communicating is very interesting.
I'd like to direct attention to Jacques Vallée, a very important UFO researcher who seems to get overlooked quite a bit, this is likely at least
partially due to the fact that his eventual disagreement with the "extraterrestrial hypothesis" in favor of an "interdimensional hypothesis" seemed to
rub many people in the UFO community the wrong way. Vallée is a serious scientist, most notable for having helped design an early form of the
internet, and co-developing the first computerized mapping of Mars for NASA.
As an alternative to the extraterrestrial visitation hypothesis, Vallée has suggested a multidimensional visitation hypothesis. This hypothesis
represents an extension of the ETH where the alleged extraterrestrials could be potentially from anywhere. The entities could be multidimensional
beyond space-time, and thus could coexist with humans, yet remain undetected. Vallée's opposition to the popular ETH hypothesis was not well
received by prominent U.S. ufologists, hence he was viewed as something of an outcast. Indeed, Vallée refers to himself as a "heretic among
heretics... Vallée proposes that there is a genuine UFO phenomenon, partly associated with a form of non-human consciousness that manipulates space
and time. The phenomenon has been active throughout human history, and seems to masquerade in various forms to different cultures. In his opinion, the
intelligence behind the phenomenon attempts social manipulation by using deception on the humans with whom they interact.
^^^The above is only a very brief description of his work, which is quite detailed and extensive. The idea of a manipulative intelligence that has
been influencing humanity throughout history seems to have more unsettling implications if this presence is NOT extraterrestrial. I'd also like to
mention that astronomer and Project Bluebook investigator J. Allen Hynek was his mentor. Hynek himself was a proponent of the interdimensional theory
as illustrated in this quote:
Then he turned to defending the EDI (extradimensional intelligence) hypothesis. Besides the aspect of materialization and dematerialization he cited
the "poltergeist" phenomenon experienced by some people after a close encounter; the photographs of UFOs, some times on only one frame, not seen by
the witnesses; the changing form right before the witnesses' eyes; the puzzling question of telepathic communication; or that in close encounters of
the third kind the creatures seem to be at home in earth's gravity and atmosphere; the sudden stillness in the presence of the craft; levitation of
cars or persons; the development by some of psychic abilities after an encounter. "Do we have two aspects of one phenomenon or two different sets of
It could be possible to refer to entities behind this phenomenon as demons, though in my opinion it is a poor word choice due to the specific
religious connotations it carries. It is possible that the UFO phenomenon really is some type of non-human awareness that could emanate from some
other level of reality we are unaware of. Or it could be possible to explain what people perceive to be demons as one specific manifestation of the
phenomenon; although this interpretation could imply that the human, or observer plays an active role in how the phenomenon manifests, i.e. the person
using a quijia board who is deceived by an entity based upon their own expectations.
I would like to add as an additional point that some modern scientists have speculated that with adequate time and development a civilization may be
able to reach a point where space and time are transcended and they would be able to "leave the universe". This sounds fanciful, but imagine that
there was just one civilization out there that managed to survive vastly and exponentially longer than we have, in this sort of scenario then it would
be possible for this phenomenon to be both extraterrestrial and interdimensional so to speak. These types of beings would likely seem incredibly
bizarre, ghostly, or even demonic from our perspective.
When trying to classify these phenomenon it seems people are always attempting to give a specific title to it typically based upon a familiar,
preconceived concept such as ET visitors, or demons for example; though the true scope of reality goes beyond these kind of base ideas. There simply
are so many things that are outside of our understanding right now. I personally have no beliefs that I am attached to regarding this, or any other
subject; besides that of possibility.
Might I add I will acknowledge it is also possible that none of it is real, or that there is another explanation entirely. Based upon personal
experience and extensive science-based research though I feel at this time that there is enough evidence to merit further consideration of these
phenomenon, which are elusive by their very nature.
edit on 16-6-2011 by zeno87 because: grammar