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You people do know that these "Aliens" or "UFOs" are in reality demonic spirits?

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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Just because you ignore what I post, doesn't mean it's still there. The mod is probably going to ban you if you keep posting useless comments.

“As a result of my own investigations and the research of others, I can no longer doubt that such 'contacts' are taking place on a global scale. I must, however, challenge the veracity of the UFO occupants, especially in regard to their place of origin; namely, outer space. It seems to me that, since our earliest antiquity, the UFO entities have been lying to us about their identity and their true fatherland.”
- Brad Steiger, Gods of Aquarius: UFOs and The Transformation of Man, p. 122

The mod has already posted the link to where I got this from. It's a few pages back.




posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by Lost_Mind
reply to post by Diplomat
 


Maybe I fubared that post a bit...

I am trying to make a point with the OP and that is that he is not going to be able to provide any evidence that will lead to proof of so called spiritual entities like demons visiting the planet when there is absolutely no proof of any physical corporeal beings, something someone could physically touch, visiting Earth. His proposal is a magnitude of order more difficult to swallow than coming to grips with the concept of aliens meddling in our affairs.



There is plenty of evidence, most of your "UFO" evidence is in fact evidence of this demonic presence.

Remember the video footage of the bright white-bluish orbs floating past the Capitol building in D.C.?? That's only one example out of many, but there's your evidence, live and on camera.

Edit to add, here it is:


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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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Their reason these UFO believers cannot even process let alone accept is because to accept demons they must also accept religion.
Its one or the other really, there exists in our world the religious, UFO believers and morons.
If you do not belong to one of the first two im sorry, genuinely!



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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"...Further, in light of the messages given by the UFO entities, how credible is it to think that literally thousands of genuine extraterrestrials would fly millions or billions of light years simply to teach New Age philosophy, deny Christianity, and support the occult? Why would they do this with the preponderance of such activity already occurring on this planet? And why would the entities actually possess and inhabit people (as in Walk-ins and channeling) just like demons do if they were really advanced extraterrestrials? Why would they consistently lie about things which we know are true, and why would they purposely deceive their contacts?" - John Ankerberg & John Weldon, The Facts on UFOs and Other Supernatural Phenomena, 1992 .p13.

UFO's - Demonic deception

This guy has a point. Why would the so called "Aliens" fly billions of light years away to come and teach us New Age philosophy, and deny Christ as the same exact time? Answer my question?



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by lestweforget
reply to post by HolyandClean
 


Their reason these UFO believers cannot even process let alone accept is because to accept demons they must also accept religion.
Its one or the other really, there exists in our world the religious, UFO believers and morons.
If you do not belong to one of the first two im sorry, genuinely!


They don't have to accept religion, they just have to accept that these demons exist. And they are going to have to deal with that. Whether they believe in God or not, these things are real. They are not playing. They are also VERY hostile. They want only the worst for us. So you people may just have to accept that their are demons, so who created the demons? Demons are simply fallen angels. Who created those angels? That's a no brainer.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by HolyandClean
reply to post by Diplomat
 


Why do you even try with these people? They obviously haven't looked at the evidence, ya know? Since my first post, people have been denying, and denying, but yet can't even post any evidence as to why they deny.

Remember, it took me 2 YEARS to know everything I know. That's many books read, that's many youtube videos watched, that's many movies/music analyzed, that's many experts i've talked to personally.




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Sigh......what you have posted is NOT evidence. It is one persons opinion in most cases, not backed up with ANY scientific studies. It is supposition. How much does it take for you to realise that? And you spent 2 years studying this?? Wow! What about many of us who have spent 20/30 years studying our beliefs? I have to tell you young man that even after all the years I have investigated/researched ETs and UFOs I do NOT know everything. I never will.
People are not denying, they are telling you there IS no evidence, even after looking at your vids and quotes.
Sheesh already.

ETA: Movies/books/youtube vids analysed to get to your beliefs? Case closed. Ridiculous.
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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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I really don't understand why people keep saying there is no evidence in this thread... it's filled with evidence regarding this phenomenon, just read/watch it all and maybe, just maybe you will start to understand. After you learn enough about it it will sit right with you, you will know in your soul that this is true.

Until then, continue on with the pointless arrogant skeptic posts and insults.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by Lost_Mind
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Maybe I fubared that post a bit...

I am trying to make a point with the OP and that is that he is not going to be able to provide any evidence that will lead to proof of so called spiritual entities like demons visiting the planet when there is absolutely no proof of any physical corporeal beings, something someone could physically touch, visiting Earth. His proposal is a magnitude of order more difficult to swallow than coming to grips with the concept of aliens meddling in our affairs.



There is plenty of evidence, most of your "UFO" evidence is in fact evidence of this demonic presence.

Remember the video footage of the bright white-bluish orbs floating past the Capitol building in D.C.?? That's only one example out of many, but there's your evidence, live and on camera.

Edit to add, here it is:


edit on 6/14/2011 by Diplomat because: (no reason given)


It's obvious that fundamentalist right-wing religious groups are trying to hijack the UFO phenomenon to serve their own agendas.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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So you think orbs in the sky that can travel 25,000 mph and morph into multiple orbs and then back into one are some sort of metal spacecrafts? You've got to be kidding me, this is a spiritual phenomenon we're dealing with.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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It's like talking to a paper bag.

Look, you haven't even looked at the evidence. You don't know ANYTHING about UFO's apparently. All you have done is attacked me since i've been on here about how i've been wrong, and about how i've not posted any evidence, when i've posted many videos, many websites, many expert opinions, many book quotes. I even posted personally testimonies of people who deal with demon worship. If that's not evidence, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS. You just trying to trip me up. Not going to happen. lol. Now get out of here.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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That video is NOT evidence of demonic aliens!!!! Dear Lord.

You have just destroyed any credibility you may have established as far as I am concerned.
Please consider well what you are saying/posting. What evidence do you have to back up your claim that these ' orbs' are demonic?



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Lost_Mind
reply to post by Diplomat
 


Maybe I fubared that post a bit...

I am trying to make a point with the OP and that is that he is not going to be able to provide any evidence that will lead to proof of so called spiritual entities like demons visiting the planet when there is absolutely no proof of any physical corporeal beings, something someone could physically touch, visiting Earth. His proposal is a magnitude of order more difficult to swallow than coming to grips with the concept of aliens meddling in our affairs.




You are correct there exists no physical proof of aliens and so to demons, but the point i believe and the reason the OP was referencing Dr Hynek is because the testimonies and effects of those experiencing demonic presence or possession are almost identical to the testimonies of alien abductees.
Also the messages by spirits devined by mediums are identical to those of alien channelers, these messages are consistently either new age philosophy, denying christianity or in support of the occult.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by annella
reply to post by Diplomat
 


That video is NOT evidence of demonic aliens!!!! Dear Lord.

You have just destroyed any credibility you may have established as far as I am concerned.
Please consider well what you are saying/posting. What evidence do you have to back up your claim that these ' orbs' are demonic?


That video is easily more likely to be evidence of a spiritual phenomenon rather than metal alien spacecrafts as I'm sure that is how most people have tried to explain that video and others like it. They look totally like spiritual orbs to me, in some videos they even morph into multiple orbs and then back into one. You would say that's evidence of metal spaceships? I would say it's evidence of a spiritual phenomenon.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Bro, don't worry about it. We know the truth. That's all that matters. You can only do so much for people, ya know? They the ones hardening their hearts. Their are many people that claim to be truthers, but do they research everything they've been told? 90% of time, no they don't. They just believe everything they hear, or deny it. I research EACH AND EVERYTHING i'm told about. Cause the scriptures say to prove all things, and hold fast that which is good, which is exactly what I do.

They have ignored everything i've posted, just because they have a problem with demonic entities.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by HolyandClean
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Bro, don't worry about it. We know the truth. That's all that matters. You can only do so much for people, ya know? They the ones hardening their hearts. Their are many people that claim to be truthers, but do they research everything they've been told? 90% of time, no they don't. They just believe everything they hear, or deny it. I research EACH AND EVERYTHING i'm told about. Cause the scriptures say to prove all things, and hold fast that which is good, which is exactly what I do.

They have ignored everything i've posted, just because they have a problem with demonic entities.


But us knowing the truth is not all that matters, I feel some sort of duty to help others by spreading the truth about our situation on this planet, especially regarding the false flag alien event, because if it happened tomorrow I'm afraid practically everyone would fall for it.

If even just one person woke up from this thread then we have done our job, that is another possibly saved soul. I want to figure out a way to help everyone though if I can, not just one person.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by HolyandClean
reply to post by annella
 


It's like talking to a paper bag.

Look, you haven't even looked at the evidence. You don't know ANYTHING about UFO's apparently. All you have done is attacked me since i've been on here about how i've been wrong, and about how i've not posted any evidence, when i've posted many videos, many websites, many expert opinions, many book quotes. I even posted personally testimonies of people who deal with demon worship. If that's not evidence, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS. You just trying to trip me up. Not going to happen. lol. Now get out of here.


Wrong. I have looked at some of your evidence. I gave up after the first two videos.
I have researched UFO/ET phenomena for over 20 years so believe me....I DO know about those subjects. Be it right or wrong. Compared to your 2 years of youtube vids/movies etc Id say Im ahead in this game.
I have not attacked you ( I would have been banned if I had) I have attacked your ' evidence'. There is none. Baloney. Supposition. Wishful thinking.

And you are welcome to say that maybe my beliefs are baloney etc. Difference is, I dont spend all the time you have defending a lost cause. In my eyes at least.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by annella

Originally posted by HolyandClean
reply to post by annella
 


It's like talking to a paper bag.

Look, you haven't even looked at the evidence. You don't know ANYTHING about UFO's apparently. All you have done is attacked me since i've been on here about how i've been wrong, and about how i've not posted any evidence, when i've posted many videos, many websites, many expert opinions, many book quotes. I even posted personally testimonies of people who deal with demon worship. If that's not evidence, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS. You just trying to trip me up. Not going to happen. lol. Now get out of here.


Wrong. I have looked at some of your evidence. I gave up after the first two videos.
I have researched UFO/ET phenomena for over 20 years so believe me....I DO know about those subjects. Be it right or wrong. Compared to your 2 years of youtube vids/movies etc Id say Im ahead in this game.
I have not attacked you ( I would have been banned if I had) I have attacked your ' evidence'. There is none. Baloney. Supposition. Wishful thinking.

And you are welcome to say that maybe my beliefs are baloney etc. Difference is, I dont spend all the time you have defending a lost cause. In my eyes at least.


You gave up after 2 videos??? It's taken me like 15 years to finally figure this out...

How can you even speak on this topic if 2 videos is the only evidence you've looked at regarding this issue? Sheesh.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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You have a good point there. The Bible says the world is going to fall for the deception that's yet to come. If an Alien false flag event happened right now as I'm speaking, about 98% of the world would fall for it, roughly, even some on this forum.

But anyways, this has been fun, but I got to get to bed. Peace out.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by HolyandClean
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You have a good point there. The Bible says the world is going to fall for the deception that's yet to come. If an Alien false flag event happened right now as I'm speaking, about 98% of the world would fall for it, roughly, even some on this forum.

But anyways, this has been fun, but I got to get to bed. Peace out.



Yes, if I remember correctly, the Bible calls the event "God's Strong Delusion."

Take care...



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 10:53 PM
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Go check out a person by the name of Blossom Goodchild. A friend ( I think..lol) sent me a link to her website a few weeks ago and on there is a part dedicated to the ' Federation of Light' who are apparently about to show up in our skies very soon.
It may just fit with your agenda.

ETA: I am NOT a Blossom fan BTW!
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