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You people do know that these "Aliens" or "UFOs" are in reality demonic spirits?

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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 07:43 AM
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The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

Do you know anything about the book you have dedicated your faith and life to?? Typical!

I said weak minded people, am thinking of expanding that to unintelligent, weak minded folks.
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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
It is so that you would not believe it is a demon/jinn. It is trying to deceive you into believing in aliens so when the time comes for a false invasion you will obey the demons commands for the battle of armaggedon is near.

You should write movies for hollywood.
The facts say different.
Again .. there are much easier ways to terrorize and win over humans.

Originally posted by Truth01
you won't believe a 'fundamentalist' who was abducted yet you would believe a new ager?

Again your bias is showing. You shove all abductees into the 'new age' category.
In reality, there are very few 'new agers' around.
Your fundamentalist 'all or nothing' paranoia is showing.
AND you didn't read my posts ... I already stated that those who claim
channeling aren't any more credible or believable than those who claim
they called the name 'jesus' and weren't abducted by the aliens.

They may have had a demonic thing happening .. but it wasn't alien.

Originally posted by Truth01
Ok so according to you flyersfan there are worse ways to be terrified than alien abduction?

Yes. Obviously YOU have never had an encounter with a real demon or a damned soul.
I have. Don't even try to claim that alien abduction is the worst thing and that demons would use it.
THEY WOULDN"T BE BOTHERED.


Originally posted by ShaunHatfield
How exactly do aliens discredit Christianity??

answer ... they don't. But for some reason the fundies are scared to death of the reality that we aren't alone. And they refuse to google up The Drake Equation. Go figure ....


Originally posted by Truth01
Unlike you I don't personally label abductees to 'jesus believing folks' or 'new age folks',

yes you do. Go back for the past two pages and re-read your posts.
You presented two types of people - the call the name of jesus folks and new age.
Nothing else.


the questions such as why demons would need space craft etc - you don't see it is to fool humankind into believing they are great than God.

Of course not. They are viable questions. How on earth you equate asking why a demon would need a space ship into men thinkning they are greater than God .... wow! that's more than a stretch!



You are so adamantly against 'bible believing' people that is just shows how biased you really are, and not into true empircal studies the fact you discredit their experiences just because their beliefs do not correlate with your own.

You are so adamantly against FACTUAL SCIENCE that just shows how biased you really are, and not into true empirical studies, the fact that you discredit experiences just because their beliefs do not correlate with your own. Backatchya.

Again ... why would a demon need a space ship? Why would a demon take humans and do medical experiments on them? Why would they plant trackers in them? Demons have much quicker and easier and deeper ways to terrorize people ... the notion that this is all demonic and that the science that backs up their existence is anti-God ... it's ignorant and absurd.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by draknoir2

Originally posted by FlyersFan
who fail to understand the fact that there are both aliens and demons.
COMMON SENSE ... SCIENCE PROVES IT ... Both aliens and demons exist.

When exactly did science prove the existence of either?


To start with (you won't have to go much further than this)
- The Drake Equation. Google it. Proves we are not alone.
- Energy doesn't die. It changes form. Life forces change form.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 07:55 AM
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Great thread...S&F!

I just finished reading FINAL EVENTS and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFOs and the Afterlife by Nick Redfern

www.amazon.com...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1308054969&sr=1-1

I had an email exchange with the author and found his analysis professional and insightful. He does not claim to be a Christian. I highly advise this book to all who value research and are openminded seekers of truth.

A valuable interview with the author by George Knapp is here:






posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:03 AM
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[color=DODGERblue]Where do the angels fit in???????
Are you sayin OP that any encountered within this lil universe is demonic and there are no Positive energies within this universe? Those 3 unclean I agree are not clean but there are many other accounts where the encounters seemed or were Angelic. In my earlier stages of my understanding I felt somewhat the same way because I seen every energy within this dark realm as offspring from Fallen Brotheren. Thru education and experience I realized I was labeling ALL within this lil universe as evol and that wasnt fair and I felt I was believe it or not hurting feelings somehow?!?!? Thru more understanding I came to realize many Fallen fell following 1 who made promises to them tricking them into leaving the HOLY KINGDOM. Promised them their own kingdoms in this lil universe. But failed to mention that ALL kingdoms were part of the 1z entire Kingdom. With this it made sense some would eventually rebel against the 1z kingdom when they realized the trickery involved. Rebelling against 1z kingdom........in 3d......... and other planes...... Maybe their Fathers and Mothers felt it was important to reside themselves with the HOLY KINGDOM and others maybe want the 1z Kingdom for themselves. Keeping this in mind consider the remaining 2/3rds ANGELS who stayed in the HOLY KINGDOM and how they would support energies within this lil Universe and to go even further visualize them given armies to combat the EVOL within this universe and what do you have today-ANGELS-DEMONS- ET/GOOD ALIENS/BAD- POSITIVE ENERGY NEGATIVE ENERGY-STO/(service to others) -STS/(service to self).

My whole point is please done label EVERY energy as demonic when demonics dwell in various 'KINDS' human as well. And if humans not alone then some humans ET/good and others Alien /bad.



Be well

[COLOR=GOLD]LOVE LIGHT ETERNIA******* [/COLOR]

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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:12 AM
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Its hilarious that you people discuss this like you know these things for facts. Haha face it, none of you have any idea and are simply pissing in each others pockets. The funniest part is when people use the bible to try and prove a point. It is amazing how ignorant many Americans have been kept in their little USA bubble.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by palko
It is amazing how ignorant many Americans have been kept in their little USA bubble.


Wow only here??? I thought this was a sapiens sapiens (EA) issue.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:16 AM
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Holy and Clean -

I have also been researching this topic for a number of years and I have also read the same sources that you have read. I am also a born again believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. That being said...

UFO's are the result of Nazi technology that had been captured during World War 2. We also took many of their scientist and brought them over here to work for us. The Soviets also got a hold of this technology and it was a Soviet craft that crashed at Roswell, not something from Mars.

Hitler was involved with the Occult and he would attempt to summon supernatural power and knowledge from any source he could. He even had the holy relics of Christ in his possession (a piece of the cross and the spear that pierced Him) because he believed that whomever possessed them would have super powers. I believe that Hitler did indeed interact with "extraterrestrial" sources that shared forbidden knowledge with him and his cronies. This is how they were able to develop anti-gravity technology and force fields and mind to machine communication techniques.

Fallen angels are not flying around in metal disks. Does that make any sense at all? UFO's are man made and demon inspired but not literally demons themselves. The fallen angels are locked away in chains beneath the earth awaiting the day they will be released and then judged.

God bless,



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by draknoir2

Originally posted by FlyersFan
who fail to understand the fact that there are both aliens and demons.
COMMON SENSE ... SCIENCE PROVES IT ... Both aliens and demons exist.

When exactly did science prove the existence of either?


To start with (you won't have to go much further than this)
- The Drake Equation. Google it. Proves we are not alone.
- Energy doesn't die. It changes form. Life forces change form.



I looked up your drake equation and it is a theory - just like you argue the bible and faith is - it is NOT fact!



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by draknoir2

Originally posted by FlyersFan
who fail to understand the fact that there are both aliens and demons.
COMMON SENSE ... SCIENCE PROVES IT ... Both aliens and demons exist.

When exactly did science prove the existence of either?


To start with (you won't have to go much further than this)
- The Drake Equation. Google it. Proves we are not alone.
- Energy doesn't die. It changes form. Life forces change form.



The Drake equation does not prove anything.... if it did, there would be no need for SETI.

Conservation of energy is a physical law, but it proves neither the existence of demons nor aliens.

Not feeling like you have to go much further than this is the problem.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:19 AM
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Lam isn't a demon. He is an extra dimensional kinda guy.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:19 AM
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Listen up folks... I have big big news.

I have in my possession, a most wonderful creature..

I have a 12 foot tall invisible unicorn that grants wishes, in my back yard... No "not, big lizard in my back yard" ( a reference that only a "cool" person would get)

Back on track. He lives in my back yard and he is amazing... He is my ying, yet he is my yang too.

It is your responsibility to prove he does not exist. I know he exists, I have faith!!

Name the only belief system on this planet that is faith based.
Name the belief system that is responsible for more death and violence than all the world wars.


Truth, you asked me a question, I gave you an answer... Now tell me where the dinosaurs fit into your little delusion. Please and Thank you..

Let me head you off. Most mindless drones like to discredit carbon dating... really? Its a proven science..

So lets summarize... Science can dispute and prove false several claims made in "the great book", yet religious fanatics claim that carbon dating is off...... by millions of years? really?



To fall victim to the assault commonly known as religion, one must be able to throw logic to the way side.

Shaun Hatfield, 6/14/2011



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:19 AM
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There are two groups, the ones wanting to keep humanity in the dark ages, and the ones wishing to for us to actually progress. I can see which one this thread serves!

ETs are many things. Corporal/physical ETs, the Universe is very populated!!!! And astral. And those who are both, for only on the lower density channels that are testing grounds do you forget who you are.

When you take Time away as it doesn't exist, ETs are also your own family past and future.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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And people say there's no evidence for aliens and UFOs...



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:24 AM
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I watched both videos. Religiously fueled. Obviously countering the UFOlogists, and beliefs in a feeble, and retarded IMO, attempt to keep the christian faith going. The faith is actually dieing, and religious cults and faiths or what have you make money off of the christian beliefs.. Actually I'm not going into anymore explaination on this I can't believe the OP would even post this crap here in this forum.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99


When you take Time away as it doesn't exist, ETs are also your own family past and future.



Care to elaborate?


Originally posted by 31Bravo
I watched both videos. Religiously fueled. Obviously countering the UFOlogists, and beliefs in a feeble, and retarded IMO, attempt to keep the christian faith going. The faith is actually dieing, and religious cults and faiths or what have you make money off of the christian beliefs.. Actually I'm not going into anymore explaination on this I can't believe the OP would even post this crap here in this forum.

Thank you I can't believe this thread has made it thus far.

On another note I was watching brad meltzers decoded.. It was about the georgia guide stones. It talks about a secret society called the rosa crutians (unsure on spelling). They talk to a student of the society and she makes some very interesting points. Especially about christianity. Skip to 15:35

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posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:28 AM
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Not so sure I will agree with 'Demonic' entities, but have believed for some time now that ETs, Angels, Fairies, Demons, Ghosts and so on are all the same in the sense that they are all interdimensional beings, Magicks have found ways over the centuries of studies and practice, of manipulating those realms to contact the beings on the other side of our 'veil' for many various reasons, often in attempting to control them for their own means and agendas. Just a theory but yeah, one I personally agree with..good post OP



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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I saw an alien one time, and if there is a such thing as a demon, that was it. But we can't assume that every E.T. race is demonic. I suspect there are angels too that are also E.T.s. I have seen an angel as well. The angel resided more in the realm of thought whereas, the demon manifested more physically.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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Like our rich diverse multiculturally world.


Demonic spirits, supernatural, hell, heaven, etc., are all misinterpreted by our Neandrathal brethren.
There are all sorts of ET's out there: evil, nice, grey, tall, short, medium, fat, hairy, etc.

Who knows, demons and hell could just be dimensional soul suckers?

It's all connected some how.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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I would try clozapine or Thorzine. Hope this helps.
thanks for sharing.



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