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Originally posted by Glass
I believe its possible that the Bible was an attempt at documenting events of the times, as well to provide anecdotes for moral teachings, cautionary tales and the like.
Originally posted by LHP666
To me it is nothing more than a false, crudely pieced together from various sources but very powerful program that enables a tiny minority to enslave a great majority.
Originally posted by LHP666
One does not need some 'bible' in order to learn moral teachings. For example you can look up The 42 Divine Principles of the Goddess Maat that comes from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. You might recognize what the jews stole in order to make their 10 commandments.
Originally posted by LHP666
I'll go further than that. How can anyone look to the bible for moral teachings in the first place? It's nothing but death and slaughter of innocent people by the xtian/jew/islamic 'oh-so-very-loving' "god".
edit on 13-6-2011 by LHP666 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Glass
An emotionally charged statement, but true nonetheless. Several books of the Bible contradict eachother, one need only look at the change in God's personality between the old and new testament, from a vengeful warmonger favoring the israelites, to a loving, caring father once Jesus was born.
I never stated that the Bible was "needed" for moral teachings, although one might argue that modern society would be radically different if the Bible hadn't been so popular.
It makes sence that the Jews adopted some Egyptian philosophy, they did live there for a period, after all. All we can do to improve is adopt the best parts of any philosophy we encounter.
There are some good morals in the bible, its not all brutality and slaughter. Look at most of Jesus's teachings, seperately from the rest of the bible.
Originally posted by LHP666
It makes sence that the Jews adopted some Egyptian philosophy, they did live there for a period, after all. All we can do to improve is adopt the best parts of any philosophy we encounter.
What do they have of their own that they didn't steal from others? I'd like to know. All they have is a mandate from their tribal 'god' as being 'the chosen'.
Originally posted by LHP666
There are some good morals in the bible, its not all brutality and slaughter. Look at most of Jesus's teachings, seperately from the rest of the bible.
"jesus'" advice is suicidal if it's followed. It leads to nothing but slavery. It empowers no one except the slavemasters. Read it and ask what would happen to you if you followed that advice.
Originally posted by LHP666
Loving words from "jesus": Luke 19 27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
I almost wish 'jesus' was real so I could spit in his face.
As far as disagreement goes, that doesn't bother me. None of this is personal. Condemning someone for expressing an opinion is silly. Religion condemns enough people as it is. Get rid of these authoritarian religions and the world would be a better place. It's enough to just disagree and give the reasons for it.
What does anyone have that isn't "stolen" from others? In terms of intellectual property, hardly anything is original. I could blame your mother for stealing someone elses name to give to you if you want to play that game.
What I feel Jesus is trying to say here is that if you can help it, try not to escalate conflicts. Forgiveness and understanding are more likely to help solve the problem than striking back.
Its funny how you've taken Luke 19:27 totally out of context. I looked up and read Luke 19 in its entirety. It is clear that at Luke 19:11, Jesus begins telling a story about a tyrannical king, which ends at Luke 19:27.
Originally posted by LHP666
reply to post by Glass
What does anyone have that isn't "stolen" from others? In terms of intellectual property, hardly anything is original. I could blame your mother for stealing someone elses name to give to you if you want to play that game.
They invented 3 original religions. They falsely claimed the "intellectual property rights" in order to do so, in addition to making things up as they went along. They stole it and made it their own.
Originally posted by LHP666
What I feel Jesus is trying to say here is that if you can help it, try not to escalate conflicts. Forgiveness and understanding are more likely to help solve the problem than striking back.
The only way that would work is if it's over something trivial. "jesus" made no such distinction, but a blanket statement that you are interpreting in your own way to make it appear more reasonable than what the words actually say.
Originally posted by LHP666
Otherwise, if it's not trivial, then that is suicidal. You are depending on the enemy, the one(s) that attacked you, are capable of being just as reasonable and kind-hearted as you are. You are assuming a lot. If you don't strike back, they will destroy you. Running away won't stop them,
Originally posted by LHP666
This is primarily a CT board, right? Do you forgive the maggots in power that are doing these things to us? I don't. I want to live long enough to see them destroyed. I want to piss on their graves.
Originally posted by LHP666
Its funny how you've taken Luke 19:27 totally out of context. I looked up and read Luke 19 in its entirety. It is clear that at Luke 19:11, Jesus begins telling a story about a tyrannical king, which ends at Luke 19:27.
Murdering the earths population and sending their souls to the 'lake of fire' for being human beings is downright hilarious too. Do tell me all about your "tyrannical king" that you mentioned, the one that demands obedience and love, or else!
Then I pretty much let him beat me till I was on my knees, and called it even.
Hell is a myth that arose from Sheol, a hole in the ground.
I sense much anger in you. Beware. Anger is the path to the dark side.
Originally posted by LHP666
Then I pretty much let him beat me till I was on my knees, and called it even.
You got very lucky. As much as I want to say more than this, I'll refrain.
Originally posted by LHP666
Grave, in the OT. It is also "translated" from Gehenna, a burning trash pit in a valley outside of jerusalem in the NT.
Most people don't even know where that word 'hell' came from, and neither do they give a damn. It's a pagan word. Norse, to be exact.
They did the same things with the words translated as 'eternal' and 'forever'. There is no such eternal or forever there.
But this is only a small part of it. It just helped the state prey on peoples fears. It doesn't change the idiocy of that which really was translated well.
Originally posted by LHP666
I sense much anger in you. Beware. Anger is the path to the dark side.
Anger and hate are natural human emotions. Repressing them does no good. And, anger/hate are very motivating if it's balanced. Besides, I am IN the dark side already, But most don't even know what "dark" means.
Originally posted by Glass
I don't believe luck had anything to do with it. I made the right move. I could read my opponent well enough that I knew what he wanted was to assert some form of superiority, so I let him have that.
You say Idiocy, I say Wisdom. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Sometimes, it does some good for one to control their anger, opting for a different path.
By your beliefs which you have presented, I'd guess that you are a Wiccan or perhaps a LaVeyan Satanist. Or I could be entirely wrong and you're simply atheistic.