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Deny Ignorance - There ARE Straight Lines and Right Angles in Nature!

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posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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I put this in Ancient & Lost Civilizations because it seemed fitting, If not -


I felt the need to start this thread as a counter to one of the most over-used phrases here on ATS:

Well, since there are no straight lines in Nature....

Everybody knows right angles don't occur in Nature...

Everytime a new Atlantis thread pops up, any type of Google Earth "anamoly", Mars anamolies, rock formations, lost cities of gold, etc...it seems this phrase is always thrown out there.

So, I would like to present some evidence that Nature, does in fact, create straight lines and right angles-



























I love the "strange formation" or "anomoly found" threads as much as anyone, I just wanted to get this straight line nonsense talk put to rest.

I could go on, but you get the idea....




posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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i always wondered why everyone says that when we know there are even clearly natural pyramid shapes in nature. I also love these amazing formations, thanks.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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A laser? Really?



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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gorgeous pictures! Thank you for sharing them
at the risk of trolling
(its on my mind, just came from that thread)
The spider is clearly an alien, and the snowflake is a conspiracy!
I kid! just to keep it from being one line ♥



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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Sure, why not?

Light travels in a straight line, unless it is perturbed..

Light is natural.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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There is also Bismuth




I totally agree with the message of this thread, but I think the Laser might have been just BIT too much



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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It's obvious that anyone who makes such a statement has never seen a crystal formation or a honeycomb.
There is no limit to what nature can create.
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posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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A line is the traced path of a point with one dimension, and this is in nature where?
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posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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How about here?

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Saliling Stones, Death Valley
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posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Colloquial term, not mathematical. You know full well what he means.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by Andre Neves
A laser? Really?


I was always under the impression that light is a naturally occuring phenomena. A laser beam is light, and gives a good example of the way in which light travels - that is to say, in straight lines, and how it can be refracted to produce all kinds of angles, including those at 90º.

Perhaps I've missed a few thread topics here, but I honestly never knew that straight lines and 90º angles were considered anomalous in a natural setting. Stone cold, down to earth geologist that I am, I'm happy to see that the OP has included a picture of pyrite, or "fool's gold". That's probably one of the best examples of both straight lines and right angles - and it's pyrite, and everybody loves pyrite.

I thought that it was supposed to be perfect circles that aren't supposed to be found in nature - not geometrical lines!

Seriously, anyone out there who actually believes that straight lines and angles at 90º don't occur naturally needs to take their tin foil hat off long enough to get their brain checked.
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posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Indeed. Humans are so proud of our ability to cut stone and form steel that we automatically assume that anything straight or right-angled (or in any other regular geometric shape or pattern) must be manmade.
But nature created and perfected the straight line. If it wasn't for nature, man wouldn't even know what a straight line was.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by DeepThoughtCriminal
Perhaps I've missed a few thread topics here, but I honestly never knew that straight lines and 90º angles were considered anomalous in a natural setting.

Only when the main topic of discussion is mars and the moon



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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S & F


I completely agree with the premise of this thread AND conversely.....


Sometimes, what is/was perceived of as being Natural turns out to be man-made








Rebuilding
Ancient Monuments

A traveler, archaeologist, and photographer, Désiré Charnay (1828-1915) was one of the most important early expeditionary photographers. During his tours of Yucatan, Oaxaca, and Chiapas in 1858-1860 and 1880-1886, Charnay became one of the first to use photography in documenting the great Meso-American archaeological sites and to make ethnographic photographs of indigenous Mexicans. His major publications Cités et Ruines Américaines (Paris, 1862) and Les Anciennes Villes du Nouveau Monde (Paris, 1885) are important transitional works to the later scientific archaeology of Alfred Maudslay



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Interesting, I've never seen photos of those pyramids covered up before...




posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Light does not travel in a straight line, it is naturally omnidirectional. It disperses outward in all possible directions following the inverse square law. This is unlike a focused beam of light, like lasers, but even these disperse outward and degrade over distance. Not sure how many ancient builders used lasers but evidence of this would be astounding.

When considering insects and their creations (webs) remember these are living things which would exclude them from any examples of naturally occurring straight lines in an extraterrestrial discussion. I mean wouldn't it be great to discover spiders and dragonflies on Mars?



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Devino
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Light does not travel in a straight line, it is naturally omnidirectional. It disperses outward in all possible directions following the inverse square law. This is unlike a focused beam of light, like lasers, but even these disperse outward and degrade over distance. Not sure how many ancient builders used lasers but evidence of this would be astounding.


The two (straight-line and omnidirectional travel) are not mutually exclusive. Unfocused light, as a whole, is omnidirectional, but each photon propagates in a straight line. It's the linear nature of photon travel that causes light to spread out evenly according to the inverse square law.
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posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
S & F


I completely agree with the premise of this thread AND conversely.....


Sometimes, what is/was perceived of as being Natural turns out to be man-made








Rebuilding
Ancient Monuments

A traveler, archaeologist, and photographer, Désiré Charnay (1828-1915) was one of the most important early expeditionary photographers. During his tours of Yucatan, Oaxaca, and Chiapas in 1858-1860 and 1880-1886, Charnay became one of the first to use photography in documenting the great Meso-American archaeological sites and to make ethnographic photographs of indigenous Mexicans. His major publications Cités et Ruines Américaines (Paris, 1862) and Les Anciennes Villes du Nouveau Monde (Paris, 1885) are important transitional works to the later scientific archaeology of Alfred Maudslay


VERY cool - totally deserved a full requote

to other people in the thread - I have no idea if light can naturally go in a straight line so I'll take your word for it that it does not and say this - IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE VALIDITY OF THE REST OF THE IMAGES

Slayer's images might though



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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Hi SLAYER,
I know you have spent much time looking over images and information relating to ancient ruins and I have a question concerning the burying, or the covering up with dirt, of these monuments. I have read that many of these sites were found under several meters of dirt and it is thought that people intentionally did this for whatever reason.

My question is how many sites were found this way and is there evidence that this was done by people or could it have been a natural occurrence?



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Devino
My question is how many sites were found this way and is there evidence that this was done by people or could it have been a natural occurrence?


First off on-topic: Nature can and has created straight lines, right angles and circles etc.


Second, To answer your query. Given enough time Nature will reclaim everything.





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