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Defend your daughter? 20 years in prison

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posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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OMG, why can't the governor or a higher court step in?? That's an insane ruling and should have never gotten this far. I'd have done the same as him though, defended my family.




posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:21 PM
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Several factors, came into play. The biggest one, is, it happened in Florida. Don't take the plea they offer, and You loose in court, you will pay the price. Never, go to trial in Florida, unless you are 100% sure, you can win. They don't, want you to waste the tax payers loot and basically, throw the deal they offered, back in their face. The other, is the Mandatory Min. And finally, he should of called the pigs first. If he, would of called, to make the first report. things would of went down Different.

I, have lost a lot of friends, for certain offenses. later on, in life they got another charge and because they have prior felonies or what have you, their gone! doing 25 to life for mandatory minimums and habitual offenders act.

Come to Florida on vacation, Leave on probation, Come back on violation.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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WELL SAID!!!BRAVO



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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This is total bs as many have already pointed out. I don't like how people say he should've called the cops though...the kid was blatantly advancing on him and he fired a warning shot to scare the kid off and make the kid know he meant business. What would the cops have done? Were talking about Florida police here...some of the worst in the nation, they can't be trusted anymore...haven't you people been watching police videos lately? The kid got scared, left with his ego hurt by showing fear, and unjustly pressed charges like a little coward (to keep it PG). In my opinion, he's lucky the dad didn't put one in his chest. When you mess with a girl like that and think you're hot # like the way the acted, I believe he deserved to be six feet under. He asked for it. Its punks like this and stupid # jurors like this that give the elite and government power and reasons to make up bs laws like this, and have bs situations ensue.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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I get sooooo angry when I read stories like this that I have to remind myself to calm down, breathe, chant "OMMM" or whatever and remember that it's JUST a story and if I really care to do some research to find out the facts. I intend to do that, but in the interest of venting my still steaming fury (the "ommm"ing didn't help), I'll make these comments:

1. People Keep Asking: Why weren't the police called? To everyone posting this question, it certainly would be a good question - 20 years ago. Today there are so many stories of police corruption, the manner in which the legal system appears to always favor the criminal instead of the victim, "good ole boys" on a power trip because they think a uniform and gun can command the respect they never got because they never did anything to deserve it before turning to other methods (i.e., becoming an "officer").
-> Like the lady above wrote about her obviously insane ex boyfriend attacking her - and the Police threatened to take HER to jail for biting his lip in self defense of his attack on her while she was freaking driving!!!! Or the other poster whose call about a break in occuring was simply ignored because they had "so many" calls for that address/section of town. There are countless stories - more every day it seems - where the Law that we foolishly think is there to "serve and protect" us is only there to enforce the cop's interpretation of the law and whatever ego trip he may be on that day.
And to those of you who know or are GOOD honest cops out there - please understand this rant is not directed at you. The good cops are now getting some press and reported as being just as frustrated at their law-breaking, lazy and/or corrupted coworkers as we are - in many case even more so because they need to rely on them to have their back in dangerous situations and at best they don't; at worst may make the situation even more dangerous. It is somewhere between frustrating and downright scary - and that's just my reaction to the news I hear and see - and I am not a police conspiracy fan or paranoid isolationist - well, at least I didn't used to be, but I guess that is changing! :-)
But in answer to the question - I don't know what the issue was in this story as I haven't researched it yet, but there are plenty of justifications for people not relying on the police to protect them or their family, so I'm not calling BS for this one "?" alone.

2. Why not punch the punk/etc? See Number 1! :-) Heck, see what did happen! If he'd have done this it would have been "Adult Male Assaults Weaponless Minor" - "Unprovoked Attack - Father Didn't Approve of Boy Dating His Daughter", etc etc.
Physically assaulting the punk would have been my gut reaction for anyone that punched or even thought about pushing my Daughter - but the story does specify he had apparently just had surgery (with the Punk (sorry, can't think of a more appropriately disrespectful term



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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thugs,like all animals sense or "smell" fear...this one had Dad on the ropes,backing up,and he knew it so he kept pushing...if dad had of stood up and took control at the outset,then the balance of what went down would have been avoided...once he stated backpedalling,he was done...stick a fork in him



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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Destroying what the PEOPLE see as RIGHT, is nothing new of our "beloved" LAW ENFORCEMENT.

Taking away a MANS right to freedom, as well as HIS right to defending something he holds dear to his heart; yet they would rather us not have that sense independence and lock him away for a score.

It sickens me deeply to see our FREEDOMS being taken away from us; that false sense of control they lead us to believe we have. Things need to change, sadly it will only get worse before it becomes PEACE.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by Conspiracy Now
This is total bs as many have already pointed out. I don't like how people say he should've called the cops though.


Believe me, I don't, like to call the cops first. I don't, call them at all. But if something like this goes down, in FLORIDA. and you don't want to ride out. You better, protect yourself and get the call in first or you will have what we got here, a f**king railroad. I know it all to well, what? with my questionable youth and all.

It sucks, but there is certain politics involved here, You,must follow. or get 25 to life. You don't see charges brought up on the kid for assault do you? and you wont. He's the victim now, Justice will be his. Florida sux! and he will have a lot of time to figure that out.

He can appeal and I would, if I was him but I am sure, it will be shot down in flames.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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So the punishment for having compassion, and mercy, by firing a warning shot, is 20 years in prison?

Good enough. No more mercy. No more compassion.

KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL

Nice message the jury is giving.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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He should have done what the early Americans did to the British when they came where they weren't invited.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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The police shouldnt need to be called everytime something happens. The last I checked we dont live in a police state (or do you finally want to admit that we do?). The constitution protects your right to defend yourself in your own home. The simple fact is that man wouldve been in the right to shoot that kid as he was on his property and after being asked to leave he was still a threat to both the owner of the property and his family.

Under the constitution this man should not be in the jail. That kid should be in jail.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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PATHETIC F****G A******S ALWAYS THE SAME GOOD GUYS GET PUT AWAY FOR YEARS AND LEAVE THERE FAMILY DEFENCELESS HE SHOULD OF JUST SHOT THE F****G P**K GET PUT AWAY FOR SOMETHING WRONG!



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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There should of only been one side to this story. NEVER fire a warning shot!



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Well said! I agree 1000%
Star



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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The ironic thing about this story is that if he had shot and killed this piece of crap like he should have, he'd be a free man. Dead men tell no tales.

Let that be a lesson to anyone looking to "scare" someone who is assaulting you - make sure you scare them to death.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by aceshootn
There should of only been one side to this story. NEVER fire a warning shot!
You are 110% correct...never draw unless you are going to shoot and never shoot unless you are going to kill...otherwise leave it under the bed



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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You sir, said it bettah than ne1.
I seemed to have left that out!

oh soo true!



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by NewtonDKC


1. People Keep Asking: Why weren't the police called? To everyone posting this question, it certainly would be a good question - 20 years ago. Today there are so many stories of police corruption, the manner in which the legal system appears to always favor the criminal instead of the victim, "good ole boys" on a power trip because they think a uniform and gun can command the respect they never got because they never did anything to deserve it before turning to other methods (i.e., becoming an "officer").


Nope!

Are you saying that a decent father would not call the police because he doen`t trust them, when his daughter has been assaulted and himself then allow this guy to take his daughter?

This young guy didn`t return for serveral hours,what did the father and mother do in between time? jack squat!

If a father who had absolutely no trust in Law Inforcement Officers,he would have grabbed his weapon (being injured himself) and took off after this punk who just took his daughter and not simply sit on his butt and hope she comes home safe one day.

I see nothing wrong with what he finally did in firing his weapon as a warning because this young punk was coming at him once again,but its the first incounter with him that doesn`t ring true.

Somethings wrong here.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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I'm sorry but you have to be one sad pathetic "man" to be unable to subdue a 15 year old teenager without the use of firing a gun, sickening.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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woah woah hold on everyone take a good look at this

State Profiles Orville Lee Wollard III Florida

Alrighty



In 2008, 53-year-old Orville was living happily with his wife, Sandy, and their two daughters in Florida. He held a steady job as a human resources specialist at Sea World. Unfortunately, Sandy became very ill with serious heart problems.




the boy, a local drug dealer, was known for his lengthy criminal record and violent outbursts.




It wasn’t long before he began to abuse Orville’s daughter, punching and yelling at her, and stealing prescription pills, jewelry and money from the family’s home.


Property damage, assault, theft.



He called the police repeatedly and issued Amber Alerts when his daughter would disappear. Unfortunately, the authorities told him they could not do anything to stop the boyfriend, as he was a minor.


So he did CONTACT the authorities but they didn't do anything because he was only a minor.


Wow just wow. So you can get away with anything if you're a minor in Florida? Nice.
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