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Originally posted by neo96
nah i dont buy that arguement
you try to tell government what to do and they all laugh at you.
if anything that is the arguement for smaller limited government
less power to abuse the people and less people to abuse that power.
there was a reason this country was founded and why there were precautions to limit the size and scope of its power.
How small are we talking?
Are we talking about so small that our government no longer has the ability to regulate? Since that is what the current "cutback, we're broke" argument has at it's heart.
No EPA? "Yeah sure you can dump your nuclear waste in the drinking water supply." No FDA? "Well of course you can inject WHATEVER you want into YOUR food product. Salmonella, E-Coli, no problem bud it's YOUR PRIVATE BUSINESS."
No Medical Regulations? "Sure you can sew that bacteria covered implant into my mother."
No Infrastructure Maintainence? "You'll have to take the 680 around, it's an extra 70 miles but the 29 has totally fallen apart."
No Medicare? "I hate that socialist program" screams the obese woman riding her Hoveround that Medicare paid for.
When you buy into the hype, do you think for a second about the REALITY of the outlandish Tea-Party suggestions? Or is it just programmed dogma kneejerk reactions with you?
You really, really believe that these programs are the enemy of the state and the reason for economic collapse?
You do know that the suggested remedies of the "Real Americans" via the hijacked "Tea-Party" platform is to PRIVATIZE these things?
You want to hand the regulations to the same people trying to figure out how to get around the regulations that keep the rest of us safe?
You want the Too Big To Fail retards in charge of Medicare and Social Security?
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
This is the argiument of a progressive/communist - big gov/the state, knows best! - if only it was run by pure minded people, then we would have perfect communism blah blah!
Large socio-economic structures are not people! - they are different creatures operating by different rules, playing different games.
Big gov is a monster that unless it crahes and burns first will eventually turn us all into dumbed down serfs of a One world slave state.
Just look at your own body - because that is exactly what happened to the free swimming cells that first stated co-operating together in microbial mats!
Government in a democratic state is a movement of the People. You're pushing the idea that I ought to lose my right to organize with my friends and family and propose that We The People, in the form of our Government, directly force greedy corporations to quit abusing us.
On a good day, Government is what happens when people get together and say Enough is Enough. On a bad day, Government is what happens when they go home and accept what they're given.
But I don't oppose the right of a Corporation to exist, or the right of a rich person to be rich
I oppose intentionally stacking the deck against people who are in neither of those positions, so that they effectively cannot get into those positions.
So, I oppose the notion that we should have to pay for education, because a good education is key to success, and too often the cost of education is that even when you achieve success, you are already so far in debt you will never get ahead. Any domestic policy that shreds free, high quality public education is civil suicide.
I oppose the idea that healthcare is a "luxury." Bollocks. If there is a cure or a treatment for a disease or injury, it should be a crime to deny that cure or treatment to anyone who needs it, or to penalize them for not properly buying it. Leave the term "luxury" for cosmetic surgery.
I oppose the idea that if I were to start my own business, I would more than double my tax burden and lose all my health benefits (and my famiily's).
These are the foundations of upward mobility. They are the basic building blocks the lower classes need so that they can work their own way up the social ladder. But it seems every "Conservative" plan for anything at all is founded on blocking one or all of these.