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Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by kykweer
Because it's an apple, an orange and a watermelon so we call them fruit?
For example people often say our troops overseas. It's understood that this includes marines, infantry, sailors, pilots etc. It's a way to talk about a group and not just one of it's components.
edit on 16-6-2011 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
Some of us do what is right, because it is the right thing to do, not because we are scared of the boogyman, and that the invisible daddy will punish us....
Okay, what makes an action moral, and why should anyone accept that theory of morality? Someone could just say "I disagree" and the only way to make it a moral code is to have power over others.
God does not punish us. We punish ourselves with anger, jealousy, hatred, ect.That is what Hell is; the torture within... If you are an atheist and live a peaceful life, you will be closer to heaven than any so-called "holy man" that preaches hate and fear, or kills in the name of their God. Most "christians" seem to ignore the words of Christ and look to the old testament....bad move.
Originally posted by TKDRLreply to post by Gravity215Again, trying to equate religion with ethics and morality, just plain stupid... Sorry guy, believers of a boogyman and an invisible daddy in the sky does not have a monopoly on morality. Some of us do what is right, because it is the right thing to do, not because we are scared of the boogyman, and that the invisible daddy will punish us....
Originally posted by gentledissident
If you religions folk are having a tough time figuring out how we atheists enjoy life without raping, murdering, and stealing, you should just try atheism. That seems to be the same as your suggestion that we should just believe.
I get being called"subhuman". It's only fair since some atheists think the religions are a little out of sorts in the cranium. However, I don't think of myself being better. I just think of my self being able to see things more clearly. I realize some religious think the same. Do you religious folk also look at us as victims? I see a lot of religious as victims of child abuse by well meaning adults.edit on 17-6-2011 by gentledissident because: it's early
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by 547000
I don't need a book or a god to tell me that harming someone or their property is wrong. I wouldn't like it if someone harmed me or stole or damaged my property. It is a no brainer. Morals and ethics existed before religions, they will probably be around after them as well. Barring some event that just wipes out everyone at the same time.
Atheists don't hold a monopoly on sociapaths and psychopaths by a long shot, as religion don't hold a monopoly on morals and ethics.edit on Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:31:15 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by applesthateatpeople
I am certainly no christian, but that more or less sounds inline with how I think about it. We all have the ability to do good, and to do harm. I choose to do good. A lot of religious people view doing harm, as some external force, that is a cop out. The devil made me do it, please forgive me!
I choose to live in peace, until someone makes it impossible for me to do so. Then it is time to crush the obstacle to my peaceful life.
Originally posted by kykweer
Then why not just say the military is going to war?
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