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Originally posted by RUFFREADY
What gets me is folks that like to defend this sick crap. Look ...we ain't stupid, you don't need to come on this thread and post loop holes and mumbo jumbo about these sick monsters that prey on children.
Evil it is.edit on 12-6-2011 by RUFFREADY because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Not only does the child herself suffer, but the society around her suffers as well - what degrades one person degrades everyone around them. That's a child who will not receive an education. it's a child who will live as a practical prisoner under the authority of her "husband" and the baggage of this "culture" like a millstone around her neck.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
I'm sorry, no. If your culture advocates raping a child, then your culture - at least that part of it - is absolute garbage, and needs to be done away with.
Just curious - but where do you get raping a child from?
Not that it doesn't happen - - but is that the norm?
Or is it media sensationalism?
Originally posted by XmikaX
reply to post by Annee
it's not the culture
it's the poverty & the lack of education : it is the lack of culture
nb : the previous post was edited to answer your other questions, obviously my answers are only my perceptions of those matter from my ongoing 10 years+ of experiences of life in india
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
I'm sorry, no. If your culture advocates raping a child, then your culture - at least that part of it - is absolute garbage, and needs to be done away with.
Just curious - but where do you get raping a child from?
Not that it doesn't happen - - but is that the norm?
Or is it media sensationalism?
Well, each of the girls mentioned in the NatGeo article - save the 5 year old in Rajasthan and another girl who managed to talk her parents out of the marriage - have been bedded by their "husbands." Many have children.
The assumption would be that if you get married to the guy, and he's taking you to his home, he's not going to set you on the proverbial shelf and wait for you.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Not only does the child herself suffer, but the society around her suffers as well - what degrades one person degrades everyone around them. That's a child who will not receive an education. it's a child who will live as a practical prisoner under the authority of her "husband" and the baggage of this "culture" like a millstone around her neck.
OK - - you've ranted about a culture.
What is your solution?
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Education. This "tradition" is the product of a culture (or lack of culture, as XmikaX has put it) that sees women as nothing more than possessions for men, and girls as having no value aside from what they can be traded to men for. An effort to educate not just the girls but their families and their neighbors would bring a lit of good to these places and probably rather swiftly do away with these "traditions" - it's been happening in Africa, where clitoridectomies are on the wane thanks to educational efforts and the actions of local women and girls.
The key is to get these societies to place human value on women.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
The key is to get these societies to place human value on women.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
The key is to get these societies to place human value on women.
At 65 - - let me tell you - - America has come a long way itself in the value of women.
Originally posted by XmikaX
reply to post by TheWalkingFox
it's not about traditions, it's about poverty and injustice.
it's about the western world rampage in those places that make the poorest always poorer;
it's about corporate globalization that makes the world always more materialistic with a direct influence on those poor people wish (tv & mobile phones nowadays) and attachment to money
it's about you yankees and your god damned life style that is killing the real and rich cultures of those places giving so little choice to those poor people on how they can manage to live their life, how they can survive in those conditions
Originally posted by anon72
These men need to be tracked down and handled accordingly... by vigilante standards....
Originally posted by XmikaX
reply to post by TheWalkingFox
i don't know; i may be indeed out of of track
where you are out of track is with your association of child abuse and child marriage which are just not related and not the same issue
once again, from my experience, child abuse is a much bigger issue in western countries.
then i don't think child marriage is a tradition anywhere and has anything to do with any local culture since it had happened all over the world all along the past centuries. whether the reasons are good or bad (and they probably are bad) we are not good enough on our side to judge them.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Originally posted by XmikaX
reply to post by TheWalkingFox
i don't know; i may be indeed out of of track
where you are out of track is with your association of child abuse and child marriage which are just not related and not the same issue
once again, from my experience, child abuse is a much bigger issue in western countries.
then i don't think child marriage is a tradition anywhere and has anything to do with any local culture since it had happened all over the world all along the past centuries. whether the reasons are good or bad (and they probably are bad) we are not good enough on our side to judge them.
No. A 14 year old is a child. Sex with a 14 year old - whether or not you're that child's "husband" - is rape. Rape is unquestionably abuse.
And no, you're not going to be able to convince me on anecdotal evidence - most of which seems to be more you trying to defend your own nationality than actual evidence, even - that the majority of these marriages are not consummated before the child is an adult.
Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by Pythein
Bla bla bla bla, bla bla bla, bla bla. Bla bla bla. BLala, blablabla, bla; blablabla.
Yes that happened. The question is why it should happen now. 2011.
The rural areas are backward as hell and I see these child marriages as nothing more than straight up child abuse and child rape. Sure, backward cultures may think of it as completely normal but that's because they have backward cultures. Read it well; BACKWARD CULTURES. Stupid, disgusting traditions mixed with despicable morals.
The only real solution has already been shared: Education. Education. Education.