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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
most modern scientists do not believe human beings have free will, a soul, or even anything resembling consciousness.
The problem with religion is it has deceived many into believing they are divine beings constructed in the image of their creator. It's harder to accept what the harsh realities of science say about humans and human nature.
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to post by liejunkie01
no. he has a disability, but if it were hacked, he would realize it and communicate it.
if you have such a severe disability, you either turn to god to find a grand purpose, or decide everything is meaningless. both are coping mechanisms. but personally, i'll side with there being a god.
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Originally posted by lestweforget
How can one man have so much knowledge and so little wisdom?
Originally posted by prof7
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
einstein said it best "god does not play with dice" the inherent randomness that is quantum physics isn't possible. nothing is random.
The observed randomness IS the free will. And we can influence it!
If two outcomes are equally probable then from a god perspective they both happen. From the frog perspective we CHOOSE which one of the two to observe (and in which one of the universes will from now on be our reality (our lower dimensional subspace of the total reality)) at the very moment of LOOKING at it.
The wave function actually does never collapse at all, what looks to us like the wave function collapse is actually how it must look like when the observer is moving along and taking one branch while letting go the other. The superposition still exists, we only switch to one of the two possible projections of it into the lower dimensional space that is our "reality".
The entire Universe (as seen from the god perspective) is stateless, timeless and static, like a giant well defined mathematical object. And we are *actively* MOVING through it along a vast number of possible paths, creating the illusion of change around us. We are responsible for the randomness we observe, WE are deciding which part of the universe we are moving into. This is the manifestation of free will.
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Originally posted by Nikola014
...Hawking claims that human beings are merely "biological machines" with no consciousness, no souls, no spirit, no mind and nothing but a collection of organized chemicals that run physical brains in a deterministic machine-like way.
I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road.
Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.
We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special.
Originally posted by Somehumanbeing
reply to post by Nikola014
Looks like people feel threatened.
If you know basic chemistry, basic biology, basic physics and basic neurology, you'll see that all of our actions, thoughts and perceptions are influenced primarily by electrical signals in our brain, of which external/internal factors such as genetics, environment, and experiences are a catalyst for. There is no "magical" free will, and IF let's say there is "magical"free-will, it would be so weak in effect that in comparison to all the other "driving forces" behind our actions, it could be considered insignificant.