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Originally posted by beezzer
teaching morality would eliminate more abortions than legislating it.
Originally posted by whaaa
But whose flavor of morality? Judeo/Christian, Muslim, Hedonist, Church of the subhuman, etc.?
Morality is not an absolute and it seems to change with the cultural wind.
I'm old enough to remember when people said "please and thank you"
edit on 12-6-2011 by whaaa because: I need a beer!
Originally posted by Exuberant1
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by Exuberant1
Now that is a good point..... If homosexuality is genetic would somone prefer the mutation to be removed? Are there any gay people that wished they were straight? Are there any straight guys that wished they were gay?
Are there any straight parents who want gay kids? No, and that's what counts here. No one knocks up their wife and hopes for a gay or retarded child.
Originally posted by asala
And i would honestly say if others have not met a child with this illness then you should! They are the most wonderfull humans i have ever met,
Really it makes me wonder what we class as perfect these days, I aspire to love as much as they do, We can learn so much from people we class as *not perfect*
Originally posted by ScorpioRising
Actually, I couldn't care less whether either of my children were gay.
Wow. I didn't mean to write so much.... and it probably all sounds rubbish too
Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by beezzer
Yep.
It's easy to be Pro Choice, when you're not the one getting killed.
a little girl from like England comes to mind but I dont remember her name offhand - she murdered a 3 year old when she was only 8 - surely if HER MOM had been aborted it would've prevented the abuse of this child - to inevitably prevent the murder of an innocent 3 year old
Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by Forevever
a little girl from like England comes to mind but I dont remember her name offhand - she murdered a 3 year old when she was only 8 - surely if HER MOM had been aborted it would've prevented the abuse of this child - to inevitably prevent the murder of an innocent 3 year old
It was Mary Bell, and she murdered two boys aged 3 and 4. She was 10 when she killed Martin Brown age 4 and 11when she killed Brian Howe age 3. She has one daughter and she's now a 54 yr old Grandmother, and she managed to gain anonymity for herself and her daughter for life...
Originally posted by beezzer
What to do. You can know find out 9 weeks into a pregnancy if your child is going to have Downs Syndrome. Eugenics much? My personal idea on this, and it is my opinion only, humnas are flawed. People are flawed. Society is flawed. Our world is flawed. Life is flawed. To try to perfect it, with "weeding" out folks like this is to invite a nightmare into society.
What will be next? Short people? Brown hair? People with vision problems, heart problems, CF, an alphabet soup of disease names?
We're walking down a dangerous path.
Tread lightly.
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Originally posted by Forevever
Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by Forevever
a little girl from like England comes to mind but I dont remember her name offhand - she murdered a 3 year old when she was only 8 - surely if HER MOM had been aborted it would've prevented the abuse of this child - to inevitably prevent the murder of an innocent 3 year old
It was Mary Bell, and she murdered two boys aged 3 and 4. She was 10 when she killed Martin Brown age 4 and 11when she killed Brian Howe age 3. She has one daughter and she's now a 54 yr old Grandmother, and she managed to gain anonymity for herself and her daughter for life...
Thats the one! absolutely!
Depending on which side of the fence a person is on regarding "responsibility" and "age" this anonymity could be a good thing - but I'm positive its no comfort to Mrs Brown or Mrs Howe -
I am personally of the opinion that anyone who kills my 3 year old should be retroactively aborted, I dont care what age they are.
Originally posted by ShadowZion
Originally posted by Forevever
Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by Forevever
a little girl from like England comes to mind but I dont remember her name offhand - she murdered a 3 year old when she was only 8 - surely if HER MOM had been aborted it would've prevented the abuse of this child - to inevitably prevent the murder of an innocent 3 year old
It was Mary Bell, and she murdered two boys aged 3 and 4. She was 10 when she killed Martin Brown age 4 and 11when she killed Brian Howe age 3. She has one daughter and she's now a 54 yr old Grandmother, and she managed to gain anonymity for herself and her daughter for life...
Thats the one! absolutely!
Depending on which side of the fence a person is on regarding "responsibility" and "age" this anonymity could be a good thing - but I'm positive its no comfort to Mrs Brown or Mrs Howe -
I am personally of the opinion that anyone who kills my 3 year old should be retroactively aborted, I dont care what age they are.
this is all true but either way one of them was going to die, either 8 year old during the abortion or 3 year old when the 8 year old was 8
Originally posted by cassp83
reply to post by beezzer
I would draw the line at any disease for which the person who is born would have to rely on constant care for their entire lives (under assumption with current science).
Quality of life trumps all.
If I got pregnant again & found out at 9weeks that my un-born child had a 99% chance of down syndrom, I would most definitely terminate the pregnancy. I want my child to have a chance at LIFE, not a chance to live.
Quality of life is important, but if/when someone else determines that quality level, then you run into problems. Because it'll be their interpretation of quality.
Originally posted by Adamanteus
By the very act of forcing someone to have a child with medical needs above and beyond what they can provide for Are You then not determining both the parent(s) and child's Quality of life for them?edit on 13-6-2011 by Adamanteus because: (no reason given)