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Originally posted by Pankaka
reply to post by Bob Sholtz
Yes, I am willing to abort the downey.
[snip] NO DOWNEYS IN MY HOUSE!edit on 12/6/11 by masqua because: removed profanity
What don't you understand about "NO DOWNEYS" in the "UNITED STATES of AMERICA."
Get out if you don't like it.
Originally posted by Pankaka
reply to post by Bob Sholtz
What don't you understand about "NO DOWNEYS" in the "UNITED STATES of AMERICA."
Get out if you don't like it.edit on 12-6-2011 by Pankaka because: American Eagle
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by whaaa
Apples/oranges. Political machinations and the life of an innocent are as far apart as truth and politics.
Originally posted by Adamanteus
This is indeed a slippery slope. I feel that the parents have the right to decide in the case of something like Down's syndrome.
My reasoning is that with advances in medicine people are living much longer and to give birth to someone that will require care their entire life is a bit selfish since once the parents pass on the burden of care will be placed on other family members or the state.
Today it's Downs. Tomorrow? That's why I brought it up.
Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by beezzer
Yep.
It's easy to be Pro Choice, when you're not the one getting killed.
Originally posted by destination now
It's a shame that this thread has turned into a pro choice/pro life debate...and I've been in so many of them I have no wish to be involved in another (pro choice btw)
I think though that the premise of the OP is that with these early tests is where else will it lead? There are already countries who use testing for gender where it is preferable to have a boy, meaning that many girls are aborted, and whilst that is a choice, I do think it is a choice for the wrong reasons.
I have a friend who had a downs child, bobby died age 15 but was one of the most amazing, friendly and loving humans you'll ever meet. He had a brilliant quality of life and everyone loved him and he loved everyone else. I have worked with a disability charity and have met some people with serious physical disabilities who have more ability in their little finger than many non disabled people have in their entire bodies.
But it is a choice that should be left to the individual and tests should be ethically sound before they are offered to pregnant women
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Adamanteus
Today it's Downs. Where would you draw the line? Just with diseses? Or would it be with birth defects? Imperfections? Not trying to be snarky, it's just that I see the potential for GREAT abuse here.
Originally posted by AmericanEagle
You know about overpopulation-, financial- and other heavy problems such as rape, right?
Oh right, forgot about Christianity and politics.
Back to being freedom haters.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by beezzer
Well... I have a cousin who is Downs. I was talking with My aunt and uncle and They both said that if They had had the test...though They love Their daughter...They would have aborted the pregnancy. Their story is about the lifelong commitment to caring for so severely disabled individual.
And My cousin was lucky. When She was born, They tried to convince my aunt and uncle to put Her into a "home" (where They expected She would die within about a year). They didn't and cared for Her Themselves. Today She is 25 and though She needs assistance to live, She does have a simple job. Guess it's sort of a wash productivity-wise.
But yes. They would NOT have chosen to give birth to Her.