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Why is it cheaper to buy a new printer than to buy ink cartridges?

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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Why is it cheaper to buy a new printer than to buy ink cartridges? Because the Govt. benefits from it.

Bought another printer today. 4th one this year. Why?

Printer: $50 with ink

Ink Cartridge: $45-$60

Does this make sense? Absolutely not!

Until you remember that there is also an $18 environmental disposal tax for a printer where I live. So now it makes sense to who? Yup, the Government....again.

Still works out to about the same for me to just get a new printer every time and give $18 to the Govt. for nothing.

Nice way to get even more than the measly 14% HST I already paid when I bought it.

So I pay $50 + $7 (14%) HST + $18 for a total of $75 of which $25 of that goes towards tax. 33%!

Buy that Ink cartridge at $60 + 14% HST = $68.40

Why not just have the new printer. Makes sense for me and the Govt. knows this. Choose that nice new printer and the Govt. gets more cash.

Nice huh?

I know the numbers are different in other provinces and states but I'm guessing that some are very close to the same.

The other issue is all those printers going into the landfills. I thought we were supposed to find ways to cut down on electronics being dumped? Why isn't the Govt. doing its part in this? Take away that disposal tax and then the only thing that will be going into landfills will be cartridges instead of entire printers.

But I guess it's ok to contribute to wastefulness and garbage piles if the Govt. benefits.

ARRGGGHH!!! Can't Win!




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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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ARRGGGHH!!! Can't Win!


Actually you can. I have a family member that buys a printer, and then just returns and exchanges it at Wal-Mart when it runs out of ink, getting a new ink caterage AND printer.

Smart lady, and way to stick it to the hogs that charge an arm and leg for ink



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Skerrako
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ARRGGGHH!!! Can't Win!


Actually you can. I have a family member that buys a printer, and then just returns and exchanges it at Wal-Mart when it runs out of ink, getting a new ink caterage AND printer.

Smart lady, and way to stick it to the hogs that charge an arm and leg for ink


I'm all for sticking it to Wal-Mart especially.

Smart Lady!



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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Depending on what you do with a printer, the two mentioned methods are probably as good as any. Just make sure you uninstall the old printer before installing the new one. Because sooner or later, it WILL cause you problems if you don't.

In my case, I use expensive printers. So it pays me to buy the ink. But I usually buy online and get it much cheaper than retail outlets.

The computer industry as a whole is an elaborate scam. It's shameful the way the industry treats consumers. Printers are just one example.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Klassified
Depending on what you do with a printer, the two mentioned methods are probably as good as any. Just make sure you uninstall the old printer before installing the new one. Because sooner or later, it WILL cause you problems if you don't.

In my case, I use expensive printers. So it pays me to buy the ink. But I usually buy online and get it much cheaper than retail outlets.

The computer industry as a whole is an elaborate scam. It's shameful the way the industry treats consumers. Printers are just one example.


I use 2 printers. One for my biz (expensive) and one for everyday (disposable)

Printers and ink are one of the biggest scams on consumers these days but many don't see it.

Just waiting for the Bic Disposable Printer to come out.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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I know this is from craked but it basically comes down to money

The supplies for printers (such as ink cartridges) make for 90 percent of their profit, and the printer companies aren't willing to let that go quite so easily. Those chips that the printer companies (including HP, Lexmark, Canon and Epson) install on their cartridges also limit the use of aftermarket cartridges.
HP disables certain features on aftermarket ink, while Lexmark blocks it outright. One remanufacturer, Static Control, attempted to make a cartridge that mimicked the use of the "smart chip" that Lexmark puts on its ink, and was subsequently sued by Lexmark for violating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.



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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by ELahrairah
I know this is from craked but it basically comes down to money

The supplies for printers (such as ink cartridges) make for 90 percent of their profit, and the printer companies aren't willing to let that go quite so easily. Those chips that the printer companies (including HP, Lexmark, Canon and Epson) install on their cartridges also limit the use of aftermarket cartridges.
HP disables certain features on aftermarket ink, while Lexmark blocks it outright. One remanufacturer, Static Control, attempted to make a cartridge that mimicked the use of the "smart chip" that Lexmark puts on its ink, and was subsequently sued by Lexmark for violating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.



www.cracked.com...


That makes a lot of sense but even these companies don't make as much profit on a printer as the Govt. does it seems. Or very close to it.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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I think you'll find the disposal tax pays for the old printers to be recycled, not dumped in land fills, this is it;s purpose.

Seccond: Look at the volume of the cartidges which come with a new printer. They are the light user veersions, very little ink.

So check the sums again. work out the cost per ml of the ink when you purchase a printer compared to when you buy cartriges allone - they may be more expensive, but they are better value!

Stop wasting the worlds resources on new printrers, and start buying cartriges dude! You will be better off in the long run, as they contain more ink!!!!!



ETA: Printer ink is the 3rd most expensive liquid on the planet!!!! Buy in bulk to save money.
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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:03 PM
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Its the same with all these companies.. They give you the basic unit for almost nothing then sting you with the extras you need to buy from them. or it renders the original product useless, thats exactly how they make their money.. and its how they have for decades now..

a perfect example of this is the story of Polaroid cameras and how the company declined during the digital era..
Basically they developed camera's for decades that were very popular in that when you took your picture the photograph would come out instantly. they sold millions of these camera's but where they really made their money was selling the expensive film, which you needed, or the camera would be useless.
after digital cameras came on to the market Polaroid camera's became obsolete because you didnt need camera film anymore. most of their business and more importantly profit was gone and they ended up bankrupt.

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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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There is a business in my town (I Live in a university town) that specializes in refilling ink cartridges
for half the price of what they would sell for in the stores.
I guess the high expense has created a Niche Market.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by Shamatt
I think you'll find the disposal tax pays for the old printers to be recycled, not dumped in land fills, this is it;s purpose.

Seccond: Look at the volume of the cartidges which come with a new printer. They are the light user veersions, very little ink.

So check the sums again. work out the cost per ml of the ink when you purchase a printer compared to when you buy cartriges allone - they may be more expensive, but they are better value!

Stop wasting the worlds resources on new printrers, and start buying cartriges dude! You will be better off in the long run, as they contain more ink!!!!!

ETA: Printer ink is the 3rd most expensive liquid on the planet!!!! Buy in bulk to save money.
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I know the volume is greater but when you factor in the difference, it's not much. Although I agree that I should stop, it's a finance thing and as always, the financial point wins out. Can't afford to play their game.

And yes, Ink is absolutely like gold. Crazy what it has become.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by ELahrairah
There is a business in my town (I Live in a university town) that specializes in refilling ink cartridges
for half the price of what they would sell for in the stores.
I guess the high expense has created a Niche Market.



I think as you posted in your other post, they have started to put measures into place to stop this happening..
i can see another small business going bust in your town soon..
greedy corperations again..

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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by ELahrairah
There is a business in my town (I Live in a university town) that specializes in refilling ink cartridges
for half the price of what they would sell for in the stores.
I guess the high expense has created a Niche Market.



We had a few of these kiosks in the mall but they've disappeared. Can't compete with the biggies I guess.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by Shamatt
I think you'll find the disposal tax pays for the old printers to be recycled, not dumped in land fills, this is it;s purpose.

Seccond: Look at the volume of the cartidges which come with a new printer. They are the light user veersions, very little ink.

So check the sums again. work out the cost per ml of the ink when you purchase a printer compared to when you buy cartriges allone - they may be more expensive, but they are better value!

Stop wasting the worlds resources on new printrers, and start buying cartriges dude! You will be better off in the long run, as they contain more ink!!!!!

ETA: Printer ink is the 3rd most expensive liquid on the planet!!!! Buy in bulk to save money.
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edit on 11-6-2011 by Shamatt because: (no reason given)


I know the volume is greater but when you factor in the difference, it's not much. Although I agree that I should stop, it's a finance thing and as always, the financial point wins out. Can't afford to play their game.

And yes, Ink is absolutely like gold. Crazy what it has become.


If you are up for it - I bet you I could show you a way to make buying cartriges cheaper than replacing your printer each time.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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If it saves money and the environment, I'm all for it!

Unless it's one of the MLM remnants still floating around.

Thanx



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:39 PM
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There was a documentary called Pyramid of Waste that talked about this issue. Its about planned obsolescence and focus on a few common household items, one of which is a printer. Below is a link to the hour long documentary if you would like to see it for yourself.

dotsub.com...



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by wiandiii
There was a documentary called Pyramid of Waste that talked about this issue. Its about planned obsolescence and focus on a few common household items, one of which is a printer. Below is a link to the hour long documentary if you would like to see it for yourself.

dotsub.com...


Thanx!

I'll have a look. Might get more Ranty tho.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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since 2000 i've had to buy at least one every year!

if its not the ink being more expensive, its cuz they break down so easily and return costs are more expensive, too



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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You know you can get cartridge refill kits and some stores refill them.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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If you know this, why do you still do exactly what the government wants? Just don`t buy a new one. You won`t benefit (As the price is the same), but at least the government won`t either.

And it really shouldn`t be that hard to refill it. Sure you have to replace it from time to time, but not the first time it empties.
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