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High-Level American Officials Admit that the United States Uses False Flag Terror

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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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Your theory is wrong by the old saying "two wrongs don't make a right", there is never and i mean never a reason to stage a false flag, it's flat out wrong and as for the other countries in the world i feel bad for what they may be going through and i do hope change occurs for the better and people live in a more peaceful place were starving and such dosen't happen, but why must America play world police, besides the countries that do have starving people alot of Americans donate there hard earned money and there's the red cross to take care of stuff like that.....Not false flags it's just a excuse.




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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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"false flag" is an ancient idea

does the thread title refer to the document dated 1962 ?

demonizing your enemy and inspiring patriotism is warfare 101

propaganda may prove to be more difficult to ram down peoples throats in the modern world tho

I think internet restrictions will be a "canary in the coal mine" from here on out



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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We need to think about the world outside the usa and protect the rest of the world from insane people.



Killing ones own people is pretty insane in my book.

Why don't we all starve one of our children so that the rest will be aware that there are people starving in other countries?

The U.S. has no business policing the rest of the world in the first place, and we darn sure have no business killing our own citizens in order to have a (supposed) reason to do so.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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You want to protect the world from insane people, but you are ok with your leaders carrying out attacks against innocent people as precursors to military intervention? I argue that any leader doing or condoning such a thing is utterly insane.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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+1000
The Truth is coming out and no one will be able to silence it. When the truth appears, hopefully the world will change.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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Thanks Ashley for that... it's quite an admission!
Vicky



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by MaxNormal
 


You want to protect the world from insane people, but you are ok with your leaders carrying out attacks against innocent people as precursors to military intervention? I argue that any leader doing or condoning such a thing is utterly insane.


Quoted for truth.

Also to note, and it has been stated already, that false-flag operations have been going on since the days of Rome. They are a vile tool used by politicians to further an agenda, and there will always be people who believe that "The end justifies the means". The world has some very evil people in it, this is very true, but I feel that police actions against those evil people should be done with transparency of information, and the support of the masses, not through means of manipulation that uses the suffering to humans.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 05:37 AM
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"As bad as it may seem, it is for the greater good. There are very bad people out there, sometimes you gotta prod the mule to get it to move. "
I am sorry , but killing innocent people and planting weapons on them to justify the killing Is wrong.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 05:55 AM
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No sweetie I dont get upset about it, there is just some mutual patronisation happening perhaps. Could be the start of something good?

The Babylon thread is a serious challenge to the whole 'inside job' or 'false flag' crowd. I hope you dont dismiss it on that disjointed point. Some reason accompanying the challenge is that America does not stand alone or separate from the rest of the world, as part of global politics, as so so many Americans seem to think.
When China joined the G8 in 2001 then this sealed the new world order over . The first body to encompass the globe with its singular political economic and military influence. Economic powers took over national politics long ago, and more recently as germany, Japan, Russia , and China joined.
So much to say so little time. Adios for now.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 06:10 AM
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I can't believe the mind set required to justify this train of thought being "for the greater good". Least we actually forget history, the majority of "evil regimes" are a direct result of not in stead of the the empire known as USofA. The U.S. has done so much damage to the worlds people with its interventionist mentality that it makes me personally ill.

Slaughtering innocent life in order to enslave more of the world is beyond evil, it must end. Government is slavery and the only solution to Government is Anarchy. And before you go off half cocked about Anarchy being lawless, every true anarchist I have ever had the pleasure to meet lives according to natural laws. Those laws being Life, Liberty and Property

Civilised man has no need to be governed, to bad there are so few that are actually civilised.

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posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by MaxNormal
As bad as it may seem, it is for the greater good. There are very bad people out there, sometimes you gotta prod the mule to get it to move.


And clearly We needed a prod with Cuba, right? I mean, Castro went on to take over the world, right? Oh. Wait. We did not kill Our own to blame it on Cuba and then invade - and Castro just got old in His "kingdom." No taking over the world.

No, such action is despicable and self-serving at the higher levels. If the truth is not enough to move people, then the truth is that the moving is unnecessary.


We need to think about the world outside the usa and protect the rest of the world from insane people.


Why? And how do We know Those involved in lies to prod are any "saner" than any others?


I do not want anyone to die ever, but more then you can imagine die everyday in there home country.


Hmmm. And how many of those deaths can We attribute to American involvement? (Let's exclude dying from disease and hunger - these are clearly not helped by invading a country but by aiding in infrastructure development.)


America is so safe most have no clue about life in a country where one day all is good then tommorow your family/friends/city are gone and your running with the things on your back to a safe democratic nation or refuge area.


Wow. You have a low estimation Human capacity. Do You know how much information - footage and the like - is available that points out the issues globally? To assume that virtually none of Us can obtain a clue from that is to say that Humans cannot empathize. Cannot put Themselves into the positions of Others and understand to a good extent what the Others are enduing.


You are gonna get dirty fighting bad people. It is the lesser of two evils, we only have ourselves to blame. If we all stopped and refuse to ever fight, none of this would exist.


Well, I'm all for committing Oneself to the three Laws:

Do not willfully hurt or kill another Being

Do not willfully take or damage another Being's property

Do not willfully defraud another Being

I cannot, however, accept breaking them to accomplish anything. That is like saying to a murderer, You killed someOne, so We are going to kill Your family to make You feel badly. Tough luck if You're the sister, eh?



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by NuroSlam
I can't believe the mind set required to justify this train of thought being "for the greater good". Least we actually forget history, the majority of "evil regimes" are a direct result of not in stead of the the empire known as USofA. The U.S. has done so much damage to the worlds people with its interventionist mentality that it makes me personally ill.

Slaughtering innocent life in order to enslave more of the world is beyond evil, it must end. Government is slavery and the only solution to Government is Anarchy. And before you go off half cocked about Anarchy being lawless, every true anarchist I have ever had the pleasure to meet lives according to natural laws. Those laws being Life, Liberty and Property

Civilised man has no need to be governed, to bad there are so few that are actually civilised.


Overall I agree fully. But I think that Humans are more civilized that You might credit Them with. Somehow virtually all Humans manage to get through, not just any given day, but Their entire lifetime never breaking the first two Laws and rarely the third.

(The three Laws:

Do not willfully hurt or kill another Being

Do not willfully take or damage another Being's property

Do not willfully defraud another Being)

So I am of the opinion that virtually all of Humankind is greatly civilized. The issue is that Humans have been controlled by a handful of families (who (I suspect) are not fully Human, but that is neither here nor there) that have placed money/power/energy above any Humanity They may possess. We are the victims of the root of all evil: the love of money(/power/energy).

And it is Their policies that move the Humans They lord over, and who think false flags are acceptable means to accomplish Their goals.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 08:31 AM
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I think the UK's London bombings were done under that flag also.

I really do think that we are being subjugated by a group of psychopaths who use money, creating laws to protrect theselves and no end of dirty tricks against the public.

Its time for us to use these successful tactics back by demanding as taxpayers (our money) to have laws passed regulating against acts of treason. Thereby it is against the law for false flag operations, and other little tricks like those played on us by the bankers and letting huge corporations working here pay their tax bill elsewhere, these types of acts deliberately damage the wellbeing of the people of the State. We must have some form of protection against groups or idividuals who commit these acts.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by tooo many pills
It is one thing to use a false flag in the country you want to attack, but it’s a whole other story when you're power trppin’ so hard that your eyes turn red and devil horns poke out of your skull while you step up a fake attack to kill some innocent citizens from your own country just so you can go to war with another country. Killing your citizens on purpose then blaming it on another nation just so you can have a reason to drop thousands of bombs on them is just plain insanity. Who are these people?

I am not sure where the distinction comes from. I understand Westerners consider it acceptable to murder and plunder "others", but not "one's own", why do you think they consider everyone in the country "their own"? Why should they? They treat everyone that isn't one of them the same way as Westerners treat the rest of the world: that it is OK to lie to, cheat, murder or plunder for the benefit of the privileged.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by MaxNormal

Originally posted by redrose123
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For the greater of whose good? Protect the world from insane people? How can you get more insane than the people planning this crap? All of this show what a bunch of loones have managed to get in control of the US government. Maybe you think its ok to lie, steal, murder, torture, do terrible experiments on american people for instance the MK Ultra scandal. Or radiate childrens brains the list goes on and on. It might be to your good but it definitely isn't good for the average American people.


No it is not good for the average american person, that is what I mean wehn I say think outside of the usa. There is a whole world out there. If a few of use have to suffer for the mass of the world to be better then so be it.


Wow. Really? We must attack Afghanistan! Because... Oh. Al Qaeda. (And oil pipeline access, poppy production...) Wait. Wasn't Al Qaeda OUR creation? Ah. Yes it was. So it must have been the pipeline and poppies (benefiting the oil companies and the CIA drug operations They use to finance black ops projects) that We were false flagged on 9/11 for. Oh, and all the war suppliers. Haliburton, et al, are dripping with funds now!

Yeah, Afghanistan is so much better now.

We must attack Iraq, too, because of 9/11! Oh. Wait. Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 (but They claimed He did). And no WMD, either. Yeah. Iraq is so much better now, too!

The war suppliers are making out because of Iraq, though. And because of Libya. And soon: Pakistan, Syria, and Iran. All because of that "necessary" 9/11 false flag. Yeah. That was for the greater good of the world.

Not.


You do not even stop to think about the rest of the world, the majority of the people on earth.


Well, I don't know about the poster You directed that to, but I am sure that *I* think globally all the time. I am not USAcentric. I abhore "patriotism" as it divides Humans and keeps Them conquered. And I don't see anywhere where the USA false flagged and the world got better for all. Not one. But many DID make money from them.


If our gov is sooooo bad then imagine how bad the people they are trying to get rid of.


Or, OR... Imagine how much better They might be that They are a threat to these evil F#s the system put in place for Us here in the US. I'm just saying, there is no One "eviler" than another. You cannot assume that a group that threatens or stands in the way of an evil group is worse. In fact, there is some good chance it is better.


The bad guys are a millino times worse and you do not want to be in a coutry they controll.


I'm already in such a country, but I doubt there is anywhere on Earth I will be any safer from the Bushes and Obamas and Clintons and Reagans...it's the globe, after all, that They're after.


Get out of your close minded idea that the usa is the world and what happens here is the only thing that matters. Ther are alot worse things out there, we started our stuff off of there results. They were doing horrible things to innocents way before any kind of us gov or even the usa existed.


1. I don't have the problem of believing the US is the be-all/end-all.
2. Just because One finds worse does not follow that One has an excuse therefore for One's own bad choice of behavior.
3. Just because the past has examples of poor behavior does not excuse therefore Our choice of bad behavior.


Again yeah it is for the greater good, the world thats the greater good.


Except that it ISN'T for the world that these lying M#F#'s are creating the false flags. It is for personal power, personal money. Personal gain.


And yeah I would still feel the same if it was my family they used.


Wow. You don't mind being lied to so that others may have more power over You and the world, have Your family taken from You violently so the the war suppliers can make Themselves richer and You poorer? Ok, then. I bet Your family feels special.


Do you even know how many people are starving to death right now because of there bad guys in power?


Like the people in this country that can't find jobs, lost everything, went homeless, and only the charity of church and social groups providing food pantries do They survive? While jobs are outsourced to other countries, making it nearly impossible to get back on One's feet? The many that aren't counted as unemployed because They ran out of benefits?

Yeah. Let's kill a few of Them so that the others here will support spending money to go to war and kill lots more people elsewhere. Good thinking.


But you do not need to worry about that huh? You got a roof, power, food, and internet. So you can whine about the small slight things here and ignore the rest of the worlds plight.


Yeah. It's "whining" when We discuss the fact that We are regularly lied to for the gain of the elite. Yeah, it's a small issue killing citizens and blaming it on Others. 9/11 was just an Autumn tea party. Nothing wrong with how We were duped to take oil and land and eliminate international "obstructions" to the goal of world control.

Mmmm. Dude. I suspect with Your thinking, You and I can't be close friends. Ever.


USA best place in the world at the best time. Love it or leave it.


Oh geez. You didn't just say that, did You? Wow. You did. How about "Make the USA WORTHY of being loved by doing something about the issues of a clique of elites creating false flags to Their benefit and claiming it is in the interest of the world!"? The US was NOT intended to be loved "as is." The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. And that includes watching out for deceit on the part of Those who run the show. (If They would lie about who did something...what ELSE would they lie about?)


If we do not help the world who will?


Really? Why is any country the keeper of the others? And though They like to suggest They do things for the good of the whole, They are doing them for the good of Their pocketbooks. Their control over areas of the world. Their glory in the end.

I'm not saying relief cannot be offered, but Let's start at home, eh?


But you go ahead and jsut worry about what our gov does, and ignore the horrible people in other countries doing worse.


Please provide the list You have of these other countries and what They are doing - and then explain why We should have lies and attacks orchestrated by Our own government, murder of Our own citizens, and describe how that improves these other countries. Thank You.
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posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
If this doesn't cause turmoil you guys should quit making this site and accept that people just don't care IMO

:O from me.

This is the moment or there will never happen anything to make trhis world a better place.

Really? This is going to cause turmoil? Like when George W Bush admitted to lying about the WMD in Iraq by searching for them under his table? Then the nation laughed with him and 59 million (52%) voted to return him to power?



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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I cannot wait for the time when everyone in the world knows the truth that 9/11 was caused by our own damn government, and the people controlling the government.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by ZIPMATT

What we should call to accountis what they have had on the back of all these feeble handshakes. Like pigs on the trough are they, with their cost - plus Haliburton Holidays. Prince Andrew the global arms dealer is also friends with peadophiles is the news in our country. These peop;le stop at nothing they are pure evil. Don think you are safe in America either, or that China isnt part of the G8


Yep false flags and people representing contradictory flags and ideals.
When I read about Prince Andrew I thought geez ! What a false $@##%# ! and I wondered what else that guy and his family was up to.

Anyone who thinks the US Govt is right in coordinating false flag agendas outside of America needs to understand that deception has no boundaries. If it is also fully willing to manipulate its Senators then there are even less boundaries against its citizens.


ARMY DEPLOYS PSY-OPS ON U.S. SENATORS The U.S. Army illegally ordered a team of soldiers specializing in "psychological operations" to manipulate visiting American senators into providing more troops and funding for the war, Rolling Stone has learned – and when an officer tried to stop the operation, he was railroaded by military investigators.


Link

Btw... Thanks for putting this post up AshleyD. Always thought Govts were fully capable of this type of manipulation. Often wonder about Obama's affiliation with the Muslim Brotherhood and the uprising in the Middle East under what feels like, just the 'pretext' of Democracy.



posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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That video blew my mind, thanks for posting that up.
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posted on Jun, 12 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Hey, when the fifth estate is suborned by the Fourth Reich then it's time to authorize the Fifth Freedom!
It is the muscle that has atrophied, but can be brought back to size with the proper exercise.



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