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Call to action for programmers - need earthquake event map

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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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Some people at MIT and Cornell recently published a paper about atmospheric changes preceding the M9 earthquake in Japan. They discuss the atmosphere heating up and an increase in TEC (Total Electron Content) in the Ionosphere.


The small black dot in the sea north east side of Japan is the epicenter of the M9
other epicenter maps and pics

from MIT Technology Review:

They say that before the M9 earthquake, the total electron content of the ionosphere increased dramatically over the epicentre, reaching a maximum three days before the quake struck.

At the same time, satellite observations showed a big increase in infrared emissions from above the epicentre, which peaked in the hours before the quake. In other words, the atmosphere was heating up.

These kinds of observations are consistent with an idea called the Lithosphere-Atmosphere-Ionosphere Coupling mechanism. The thinking is that in the days before an earthquake, the great stresses in a fault as it is about to give cause the releases large amounts of radon.


Given that information I am really curious about where earthquakes happened just prior to the M9. Here's the list of M5+ earthquakes from March 1st, 2011 to March 12th, 2011 for a rectangular area encompassing Japan.
USGS Earthquake database
(The link is much easier to read than the example below)



U. S. G E O L O G I C A L S U R V E Y

E A R T H Q U A K E D A T A B A S E

FILE CREATED: Sat Jun 11 15:15:47 2011
Geographic Grid Search Earthquakes= 382
Latitude: 50.000N - 25.000N
Longitude: 150.000E - 125.000E
Catalog Used: PDE
Date Range: 2011/03/01 to 2011/03/12
Magnitude Range: 5.0 - 9.9
Data Selection: Historical & Preliminary Data


CAT YEAR MO DA ORIG TIME LAT LONG DEP MAGNITUDE IEM DTSVNWG DIST
NFO km
TF

PDE-Q 2011 03 06 105251.80 26.90 143.57 10 5.0 mbGS ... .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 07 101307.52 29.09 129.42 43 5.0 mbGS ... .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 024520.33 38.44 142.84 32 7.3 MwWCMT 5FM .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 025512.64 38.47 143.24 19 5.1 mbGS ... .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 025716.67 38.36 142.91 23 5.7 mbGS 4.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 025814.08 38.25 143.10 35 5.7 mbGS ... .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 030835.77 38.31 143.17 29 5.3 mbGS 3.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 031859.71 38.71 143.07 22 5.0 mbGS 2.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 040554.98 38.65 142.75 35 5.2 mbGS 3.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 043209.69 38.67 143.03 35 5.1 mbGS 3.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 043704.99 38.67 142.99 37 5.6 mbGS 4.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 044555.17 38.47 142.70 40 5.3 mbGS .F. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 061212.78 38.63 143.13 10 5.0 mbGS 2.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 061346.47 38.23 143.13 38 5.1 mbGS 2.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 062514.57 38.27 143.05 26 5.0 mbGS 2.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 071350.09 38.21 143.16 23 5.0 mbGS 2.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 075632.22 38.80 142.88 46 5.1 mbGS 2.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 080238.39 38.61 143.08 30 5.2 mbGS 3.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 112752.30 38.54 143.04 33 5.1 mbGS 3F. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 181616.44 38.31 142.43 22 6.0 MwGS 3FM .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 184438.50 38.50 143.17 23 5.9 MwGCMT 4FM .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 212217.57 38.34 142.65 23 5.9 mbGS ... .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 212402.73 38.29 142.80 22 6.4 MsGS 5F. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 09 233658.68 38.40 143.17 19 5.4 mbGS 3.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 10 080820.56 38.60 143.27 17 5.7 MwGCMT 3.M .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 10 090223.68 38.63 143.11 34 5.2 mbGS 2.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 10 112109.15 38.59 143.04 24 5.2 mbGS 3.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 10 165445.02 38.05 143.30 3 5.2 mbGS 3.. .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 11 054624.12 38.30 142.37 29 9.0 MwUCMT XCM STS...M
PDE-Q 2011 03 11 055431.94 37.71 141.18 32 6.3 mbGS ... .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 11 055545.48 37.36 143.35 35 6.4 mbGS ... .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 11 055807.49 37.62 142.15 50 6.3 mbGS ... .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 11 055931.58 37.05 141.76 8 5.9 mbGS ... .......
PDE-Q 2011 03 11 060039.30 38.10 142.49 40 6.2 mbGS ... .......



Here's what I'm hoping for from the call to action

A map of the area with each earthquake plotted. Format should be YouTube or similar video type time-aware media.

Would this take much work? I imagine some people out there may just want a project for fun, but if this is an immense project I could contact some local university computer profs and see (can't afford to pay to have it done though).

The reason for this: The data provided by the MIT paper point precisely to two possibilities: HAARP or Radon emmissions. The Radon emmissions could be related to Lithosphere-Atmosphere-Ionosphere Coupling.

If earthquakes match the emissions then it's probably LAI Coupling, if they don't then that leans toward HAARP and more research.

ANY input you have on the scope of this project, the difficulty, time frame for completion, etc would be great! I imagine the results would be publishable and a nice thread of your own here on ATS.




posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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You do realize that 4 plates are coming together in this area and it's very prone to large earthquakes don't you?

Why are you overlooking the obvious and pointing to some conspiracy as the cause?

If you wanted to research something why not look at data for past earthquakes and see if there has been any anomolies associated with those than you will see that this data from MIT is a natural occurence and not some grand government conspiracy.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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I would just like to point out that as far as I am aware , all the major geological survey organisations around the world have a map of exactly this type, access to which is unrestricted. The bit that would be difficult would be the part where you need to factor in the electron increase information, and for THAT you might need some back up. But technicaly speaking you could just overlay the data onto an existing geological activity map and see what it gets you.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Look at the Live Map.
And you will see, that those areas, always have quakes, every week.
Japan have 5's all the time.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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because HAARP has the ability to heat the atmosphere exactly as the data shows. This is not some crazy conspiracy blog, this is scientific research.

Why would you assume it's not HAARP?



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:01 AM
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I'm mainly interested in earthquake predictability and patterns. HAARP seems to be intermingled in this area - maybe as the cause or just a good way to read what's naturally occuring. I believe both are possible.

I understand this is a high activity earthquake area.

I don't know of any earthquake maps that plot them by a specified time.
I mainly use USGS and Global Incident Map. USGS doesn't plot and Global Incident doesn't allow time frames. f anyone knows of a site that does please link it!



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Thermo Klein
reply to post by kro32
 


because HAARP has the ability to heat the atmosphere exactly as the data shows. This is not some crazy conspiracy blog, this is scientific research.

Why would you assume it's not HAARP?


So if I were to produce charts of this same occurence from other earthquakes would you admit that it isn't haarp?

Or are you still going to think that way? Also have you asked yourself why Haarp would do this in the first place? Without answering that question first it makes debating this pointless.


I also can go into scientific reasoning how atmospheric changes have absolutely zero effect on plate movement.
edit on 11-6-2011 by kro32 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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reply to post by kro32
 


how about you chill about labeling my beliefs and read the MIT article that clearly states we've been monitoring atmospheric changes in relation to earthquakes....



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Thermo Klein
reply to post by kro32
 


how about you chill about labeling my beliefs and read the MIT article that clearly states we've been monitoring atmospheric changes in relation to earthquakes....


Thats fine that they are monitoring atmospheric changes around active earthquakes but it does not change the fact that any changes in the atmospheric conditions will have no effect on plate techtonics. If you look outside your chart for a minute you will realize just how preposterous this notion is.

That would be like trying to move a rock the size of your house by putting a lit match to it. Just not going to happen.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Maybe this guy can help?

Really cool EQ map for Japan:

www.japanquakemap.com...



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by jude11
Maybe this guy can help?

Really cool EQ map for Japan:

www.japanquakemap.com...



PERFECT!! Thank you so much



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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reply to post by Thermo Klein
 
Here's a good eartquake database covering the last 10 years

www.ga.gov.au...



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:34 AM
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reply to post by kro32
 


I'm not implying the heated atmosphere is causing the earthquakes


I'm saying that the heating of the Ionosphere is an indicator that HAARP could have been in use at the time, in that location. When you put 3.6MW of power bounced into some rocks there will be some vibration.

Just because most things we know about HAARP come from sensationalistic blog sites doesn't mean it should be discounted outright - it should be studied scientifically.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by Thermo Klein
reply to post by kro32
 


I'm not implying the heated atmosphere is causing the earthquakes


I'm saying that the heating of the Ionosphere is an indicator that HAARP could have been in use at the time, in that location. When you put 3.6MW of power bounced into some rocks there will be some vibration.

Just because most things we know about HAARP come from sensationalistic blog sites doesn't mean it should be discounted outright - it should be studied scientifically.


Ok that's settled than. But I though what haarp is doing is secret so how do you know they are bouncing crap off rocks?

I actually work at a university, next to our earthquake monitoring station by the way, and have the ability to research this but you need to show what exactly can be scientifically studied.

This is conjecture based off speculation at it's best as there is no hard data to put through the scientific process. If you can produce hard data than a workable theory can be extrapolated until than all this is just irrelevant.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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reply to post by Thermo Klein
 


As has been stated this info is readily available from USGS and EMSC. Agreed not perhaps so easy to get the historical information.

This KMZ file produced by my program may not be exactly what you are looking for in terms of dates but I can produce a KMZ file for Google Earth for any set of earthquakes anywhere in the world for any time span from the Centennial Catalogue, or ANSS, going back to 1900, so just say what you want if this is of interest.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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alright cool... glad to hear you have an open mind to possibilities if science is involved


What I've noticed is that before a few major earthquakes HAARP has been active at either 2.5Hz or 1.75Hz. Other major earthquakes have happened in which HAARP was not active. I've been researching (casually) over the last 6 weeks or so about the frequency range of earthquakes, the frequency range of HAARP, the power of HAARP, etc.

Seismometers detect between 0.008 Hz and 20 hz on average. HAARP can broadcast within that range, mainly 1Hz to 5 Hz from what I've seen on the HAARP website. Most info I've gotten is from scientific journals and the HAARP website graphs and info pages.

Lithosphere-Atmosphere-Ionosphere Coupling has been known of since the 1970s, well before HAARP was created, and is possibly due to Radon leakage. The leaked Radon causes increased electron activity in the Ionosphere and a resultant increase in condensation, which causes heat and therefore increased traceable thermal activity in the area. The problem is that it's not predictable and doesn't always happen. So far it's just a theory with no predictability found over 40 years of research.

If HAARP was used to vibrate the areas around a faultline it would likely cause similar atmospheric anomalies. Based on HAARP's own website data it heats the atmosphere, pushes the Ionosphere out, and can be targeted under ground - according to HAARP website one of the main purposes of HAARP is to do underground tomography.

HAARP was created using an idea that Nikola Tesla published back in 1915 and one of his warnings was that the ionosphere work could cause earthquakes. Also, in 1997, U.S. Secretary of Defense Cohen stated that there are weapons that scientists "are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves" Dept of Defense.

So we have capability AND evidence that both say it CAN be done. It's worth a look. The way I'm looking is to compare various large earthquakes with published Ionospheric data. Since some of this may happen naturally it will be required to look for anomalies such as focused energy centers, such as in the MIT data, that are NOT at the epicenter.

edit on 11-6-2011 by Thermo Klein because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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Wow that's a great site! Thanks for the info.

I emailed the creator of the above site, the one I said "PERFECT" to. I kindly asked if he could extend the data earlier, as his starts on March 11th, 2011. Take a look at that site - if you wanted to do the same for March 1st through 12th that would be great. I have a feeling he may be able to do it though so don't go to too much work.

ETA --> this one
www.japanquakemap.com...



edit on 11-6-2011 by Thermo Klein because: added link



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Since it takes about 30 seconds it is hardly a problem. Of course it is not a nice timed one!


eqgrp_honshu_20110611.kmz



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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Thanks! good to know about that!



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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reply to post by Thermo Klein
 

You've been misled by an incorrect interpretation of the original article. The original article doesn't really say there was heating in the region. The images don't show the temperature. They show something the authors of the paper call the E_Index. What is the E_Index?

The E_index represents the statically defined maximum change in the rate of OLR for a specific spatial locations and predefined times

OLR is outgoing long-wave-earth radiation. They looked at infrared emissions from the past, compare them to the time before the earthquake and found differences.

In any case, they were not talking about heating of the ionosphere. They are talking about the lower atmosphere.

These data are mainly sensitive to near surface and cloud temperatures.

arxiv.org...

As far as the idea that HAARP was active at the time? No, it wasn't.
As shown in this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
The spectrum monitor is sensitive to the frequencies used by the HF heater. It shows a very strong signal when the HF heater is in operation.

The HF spectrum monitor shows no activity before or during the earthquake.



edit on 6/11/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)




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