NEWS: San Francisco Man Fakes Beheading Video

A video of beheading of an American in Iraq aired Saturday by a group linked to al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi web site that purportedly showed an American being decapitated in Iraq was a hoax to attract attention.




An American, Benjamin Vanderford, reached by AP in San Francisco, said he videotaped the staged beheading at his friend's house using fake blood




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I was wondering, seemingly out of nowhere, why we were seeing reports of the coalition not making anymore concessions to the kidnappers.

It would make sense that the government knew about the threats to this specific young man's life and again, this is another attempt at damage control- "Well, we said a week ago we weren't making anymore concessions.......".

How horrible another American has to die for what?

A Mexican stand-off?

The plan isn't working people, we need to change the program.

My condolences to this man's family.

More than 80 hostages from two dozen countries have been captured in the last four months to put pressure on governments

HELD HOSTAGE

Four Lebanese truck drivers. Kidnapped on the road between Baghdad and Ramadi, Lebanon's state-run news agency reported Aug. 6. Last heard from the day before.

Vlada Abu Ghadi, Lebanese director of the Lara construction company. Abducted July 31

Antoine Antoun, a Lebanese businessman. Abducted in Baghdad July 31.

Ali Ahmed Moussa, a Somali truck driver. In a video aired July 29, insurgents threatened to kill him if the Kuwaiti company he works for doesn't leave Iraq.

Fayez Saad al-Udwan and Ahmed Salama Hassan, Jordanian truck drivers. Kidnapped July 26. Militants threatened to kill them in 72 hours, demanding their company stop working with U.S. military.

Raad Adnan, the Iraqi general director of government-owned Al-Mansour Contracting Co. Kidnapped July 24. Former Baath party member who helped build some of Saddam Hussein's presidential palaces.

Ibrahim Khamis, Salm Faiz Khamis and Jalal Awadh of Kenya; Antaryami, Tilak Raj and Sukdev Singh of India; Mohammed Ali Sanad of Egypt. Truck drivers abducted July 21. Militants threatened to behead them if Kuwaiti employer keeps doing business in Iraq and their countries do not withdraw citizens. On July 29, the group said it would kill a hostage within 24 hours if its demands were not met, but the deadline was apparently extended.

Rifat Mohammed Rifat of Canada. Prison worker. Abducted April 8.

Aban Elias, 41, Iraqi-American. Held since May 3 by group calling itself the Islamic Rage Brigade.

Ivaylo Kepov, Bulgarian truck driver. Abducted July 9, possibly killed

www.boston.com...:.shtml" target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow"> A list of foreigners taken hostage in Iraq

So why don't we find these militants and kill them?

Man for the world's greatest intelligence and military force, we sure do suck with the simple things...

(Unless we're not doing anything for a reason...)

Ogrish have the video, and to me it looks totally fake. He looks like he's acting. (badly), and there is no similarity beheading videos. You don't see any beheading, just a sawing action from an angle that hides any sign of a cut.

I'm convinced it's fake.

Here is a little bit more on this:



The video did not show the group's flag, or masked militants. The American was wearing trousers and a T-shirt and not an orange jumpsuit as worn by previous hostages of Zarqawi's group.


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www.abovetopsecret.com...

Its a hoax made in the US by Benjamin Vanderford and friends.

This hoax was quickly cleared thanks to people being able to track the origins of the tape so fast.

Now the question cames, did the beheading look real enough? Done by 2 teens in the US? How good can US Psyops troops make fake beheadings like this then? Opens up a whole new line of questioning towards the validity of the previous beheadings.

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How it comes that video was found on an Islamist website?

It could have been posted there by anybody.

In the past these videos have appeared as links bulletin boards so it's possible these guys just joined up, hosted the video on some free space somewhere, and posted the link.

mako0956 and Hawk:

Am I missing something here? Did you read the post? This was a HOAX. The guy admitted doing it.

Blagh, i hope the feds go and kick down this fools door and beat the hell outta him! Stupid kid aint got no damn respect.

Making this fake video, while not particularly judicious, is a far cry from criminal in my opinion. His friends and family probably should shun him and any future attempts to run for SF council should me met with outrage, this individual has clearly pointed out how easy it is to affect public opinion with a few thousand dollars worth of equipment and a sick mind.

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Does someone have a link to the video in question?

A link to the video would be appreciated. I stopped watching these beheading videos after the paul johnson incident. I would like to see this known fake to compare.

I had actually thought of faking a video myself but for the opposite reasons this clown did it for! I would like to see the outrage it would cause on the "Arab street" if we faked a beheading of an arab looking man by militant racist in the US? Would they show the same disregard they showed for the Americans beheaded? Or would they march and protest and scream " Jihad!" ?
I think I know what they would do!

posted on 7-8-2004 at 02:36 PM
Blagh, i hope the feds go and kick down this fools door and beat the hell outta him!

Hear, hear! This is the WRONG time for this kind self promotional of stunt. Right or left it only deepens the division and chaos. You have caused confusion and delay. String'em up. I'm out.

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Originally posted by jsobecky
mako0956 and Hawk:

Am I missing something here? Did you read the post? This was a HOAX. The guy admitted doing it.

Yeah, your missing something, the person that started the thread changed it severely 3 or 4 times after it started. Something that SHOULD NOT BE DONE WITH ATSNN THREADS imho, especialy not when several postings have been made in reply.

It started out originaly as a report about the beheading video, then to one about a hoax being suspected, then to what it now.

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My condolences to this man's family.

This was a hoax this man is not dead he was just a dumbarse who though it would be funny to pull a stunt like this. I would go and shoot him he thinks doing this to get publicity is funny...if only I had my way with him

Originally posted by thematrix

Originally posted by jsobecky
mako0956 and Hawk:

Am I missing something here? Did you read the post? This was a HOAX. The guy admitted doing it.

Yeah, your missing something, the person that started the thread changed it severely 3 or 4 times after it started. Something that SHOULD NOT BE DONE WITH ATSNN THREADS imho, especialy not when several postings have been made in reply.

It started out originaly as a report about the beheading video, then to one about a hoax being suspected, then to what it now.

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I didn't know that...sorry to mako and Hawk for questioning their reading ability.