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How to be yourself without being your mind

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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:04 PM
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Have you ever wondered why you see things in particular "angles" - why is it that you have a specific feeling or mental image to "label" things that you read, why it is that you "observe" something before reacting to it, as opposed to being in synchronous connection to the forces around you?

The reason is the ego, if you were to visualise it, it is a barrier in the human brain, that focuses your awareness on your eye and your mind - would it be a strange thing to realise that you aren't actually supposed to be conscious in your mind - that your entire awareness should really exist throughout your body?

Do you ever find it strange that you know what you are feeling, that you can observe your feelings and describe them, that there is a delay time between your feelings and your reactions?

What if I told you that your mind is channeling your instincts, and that most people have lost most of all of thier "soul" and only exist as a "brain"?

If you know this, you know that the ego is literally destoying the natural soul/spirit, and that in the future, "they" would have us more like androids...

If you understand what I mean, then in order to remove the ego, you must essentially be willing to accept the notions of:

A) Genetic engineering
B) A mind-enslavement system

Personally, I have been removing it, piece by piece, starting with astral surgery, literally cutting out my "eye" so that I can see with both of my real eyes in a synchronous fashion, so I connect at the natural frequency of my soul, that the "powers that be" are trying to prevent us from being able to actualise.

What you have to do, is ask yourself, if you can be yourself without having to think about yourself, can you act and behave as you are, without "thinking" - when you realise that your soul and instincts should be the driver, and that your mind, although controlled by your will, is restricted to a program of pre-set behaviours and choices.




posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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S&F, nice wording, very easy to understand, thank you for taking the time to write this =)



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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You are "they". It's all part of a divine plan. Or should I say, you created an experience and immersed yourself in it to make it real. The purpose of the experience is to realize that all is one. Even "they" will find themselves and see the error in their ways.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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You seem to be using the term "ego" here, in a way that misrepresents it's true function. Technically, when we speak of the "ego" we speak of a psychological system that acts as a mediator between the two other systems, as specified by Sigmund Freud, from whom these terms originated.

Without this mediator, we might succumb to our "superego", which, for example, might cause us to give our entire paycheck to the poor, or give our house away to a homeless family; or we might succumb to our "Id", which, given it's way, might cause us to become sexually promiscuous, blow all our paycheck at the casino, and such. The "ego" is what brings balance into the complex psyche of humans.

So, no. We do not need to rid ourselves of the ego.

I'm not sure what word you are looking for here, but it's not the "ego".

Experiences we have go through many filters, and we draw on previous information and experiences to form opinions and make decisions. This process is typically viewed as wisdom, or intuition. To experience things as they occur, "in the raw", without applying any of our previous history, actions, education, and experience, would reduce us to an infantile state, and I'm not sure I would want that. Infants are completely "egocentric", that is, all they know is what they want. They are hungry, angry, wet, scared, uncomfortable. They can't see beyond their own needs. That comes with time.

I do understand what you are saying, which seem to be rather like Tolle's "The Power of Now". But, I'm not sure how much of it has to do with the ego. The ego gets a bad rap sometimes, and it's not a bad thing. It keeps us grounded.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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I see what you mean. However it doesn't seem like a healthy practice to "perform surgery" on yourself, even in an astral-visualized sense. I suppose we see the 'ego' in different perspectives. I would ask you: if the ego is a natural growth of a human being's awareness, then might it have a positive function? I think we can all agree that everybody who has ever been born has developed an ego as naturally as they develop teeth.

You're absolutely correct in that the ego can be a tremendous problem. It's simply not a part of our culture to even think in terms of an ego. But it can be controlled. One's ego is essentially the flare of one's personality. There's some real energy here. Some call it sex energy. Whatever name you give it, it is extremely potent. If left unchecked it can lead to physical and mental disorders. But if harnessed, it can be a used as a kind of power plant that gives you more energy than you otherwise would have.

Bruce Lee had a huge personality, was a vibrant and sociable fellow, but because he managed to control and channel this energy, he was able to reach the status of a legend with his physical prowess.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
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So, no. We do not need to rid ourselves of the ego.


i agree!

The ego is a valid part of All That Is, and as i say, another slice in the overall sandwich.

i put freud's id, superego, and ego, all within the context of the mind though, without a need to separate them out. We all come at it differently, after all
i do this simply because the id and superego are viewed to be "tricks" (for lack of a better word) in allowing the ego to maintain its sovereignty over the other systems perspectives, but are still based entirely within that system (the mind). i view the ego as something which is a result of the physical system we currently reside in, much like.. say, the weather systems on earth. The only way to actually get rid of such a thing is if the producing body ceases to be (as in physical death).

When one feels they have gotten rid of such things, as i used to feel, it is an illusion of the mind to keep itself as the sole source of perspective at any cost necessary. So, in this, it is not eliminating the one system so others can take their place, it is allowing the other sources of perspective (usually starting with breathing exercises/lungs) to rise up alongside the mind and thoughts in continuous awareness. If this is not done experientially, the perspective of one self is still based entirely within the mind and frequently relegated to thoughts based solely in words.

It is only when one realizes it (the mind based ego) as a part of the whole that we can start to move past such self imposed limitations. That is when we learn how to grow by allowing the "source" of ones perspective to not be relegated to a single system, but from a.. "deeper" base viewing the physical form from a perspective of totality and wholeness instead of exclusion and division.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Ive been pretty successful as of late with stilling my mind and just being. Its surprising how doubt and other distorted emotions are basically erased when you live completely in the moment without thinking about it. Not in a mindless way either, more of a pure focused, no second guessing type of living.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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i think it would be nice to be able to have the understanding we have now but to be able to veiw the world through the mind of a baby. time changes how we view the world around us and the powers to be understand the mind better than most and use it as a wepon against us... i read where the fluoride they put in our water builds up in our pineal gland, ever wonder why they gave flouride to nazi prisoners...



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Peace to you SystemResistor.

It almost appears as though you were speaking on the removing of prejudices and mental barriers. Prejudices, preconceived ideas, and narrow view points blind us to the natural truth all around us. They cause us to create our close-minded truths, instead of understanding the trancedental truths. When we remove our preconceptions, then we are able to become more natural.

I actually believe that the delay between feeling and action is necessary. I am of the view point that people who do not utilize the moment between cause and effect are the ones blinded by emotion. With practice that "moment of filtering" will increase in duration in your mind, while decreasing in duration to the view of others. Additionally, to fully utilize that "moment of filtering," we must already be on the path of sowing seeds of love, while weeding the counter-productive elements within ourselves.


I do agree that people are becoming more "brain" and losing out on "spirit." But I do not think this is a result of the "moment of filtering" or any prejudices. Our brain is the interface to the transcendental. Why do I say this? Because different parts of the brain are active during prayer, meditation, mathematical calculations, problem solving, stress, anger, love, pain, and all else that is observable. Every aspect of the brain is necessary, but the problem lies in giving SOLE authority and trust to the left hemisphere of the brain.



When you said removing your "eye" I hope you are not talking about your third eye or mind's eye!

It is needed for intuition and heightened awareness.
If you believe your two physical eyes to be the real deal, I would have to disagree. The "moment of filtering" (thinking) is not the only delay... another delay is hard-wire built into the way your eye functions. First the visual data is observed by the eye, then flipped and processed by the brain, with an average delay of .3-.5 seconds. Our physical eyes do not process real time in our minds, we have a delay, we are seeing in the past. So we see we can not fully escape any delays, so we might as well use the delays as tools. Now, to throw in a little bit more, we observe that Time is relative. We can utilize the Law of Relativity to fully utilize all of our physical delays. Wouldn't each word, each thought, and each action be of better quality if you had more time to "think" about it first? That is what mindfulness and conscious awareness can strengthen.

Well, so far that is how I have experienced and understood myself. What do you think about this post?



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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I feel as if we should be connected to a far more vibrant and dynamic world, where our imaginations are enough to create a shared perception or hallucination that creates the "4D" reality, however, we are being held in some kind of artificial pattern, seeing through the eyes of a computer matrix.
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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 12:10 PM
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There is also an additional component - the occiptal lobe, that degenerates after excessive consumption of tainted water, as well as excessive observation of the television screen. The occipital lobe connects both the left and right hemisphere, and it is actually damage to the occipital lobe that creates a division between the mind of the left and the right brain.



There should be an "infinite loop" that connects our brain and our eyes, centred at our heart, the nerve stem being connected to our entire nervous system, we should have complete connection to our being.

As you have explained, there is an attempt by soceity to create logical, linear, and controllable minds.
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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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I usually have a variety of "impulses" that seem to simulate pain, uncontrollable thoughts that seem to spiral out from various portions of my mind, sometimes I start to see things in a systemmatic way, as if the people around me are adapting to a kind of "hive mind" system, it is different for every area, however, the stress got to me, and I basically used my imagination to target my mind, and I found that I could physically "place" my thoughts in my being, and that, at certain points, there were these strange kind of "portals" and "mirrors" - for example, there was an arguement that I was having in my mind, and every time I got to an answer, the question would "flip" and I would become confused again - when I looked deep within, I managed to pull out a "mirror" that had been implanted in my astral being. Over time, I have found what appears to be a whole system, some of the components were placed in areas of my subconsciousness that were so dark and terrifying that I was reaching into "void space" - as the journey continued, I discovered that there is a level to genetic engineering that can alter the "astral" programming of the human being.
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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Perhaps not "ego", "I am" would fit the general description, elaboratley, a complex interchangeable network of astral modification, that has given rise to a false-identity complex within humans.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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It is the ego, as you originally said, that sees the world as a dangerous place that it needs to protect itself from.
The ego is based on the false idea of a separate self. A 'thing' that needs protection. The mind (ego) is like a security system with alarms going off, protection from inpending doom. It makes itself look big (puffing up its feathers) so it can scare others away, or shut them up. It also uses each moment as a stepping stone to something better and if there are people around they use them as stepping stones also.
The egoic mind does not see the beauty of the world it is too frightened to be able to see and hear.



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